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The idiotic postings below about the democratic party.

The idiotic postings below about the democratic party.

You complain about nothing positivey from democrats??!? Maybe you missed the eight years of non-stop whining from the republicans! For eight long years they couldn't get over an ELECTED president they didn't like. Imagine if Clinton's brother had fixed his election, not one republican would ever SHUT UP about it!
EVER!

You want a positive agenda? Try the earned income tax credit that CLinton got passed that lifted millions of Americans who work for a living out of poverty and off welfare. Try the programs that put internet and computers into the vast majority of american schools that we without them. Try the Middle class tax cuts that gave us unpresidented booming stock markets that dwarfed anything before or since. You could try the lowest unemployment in 30 years. Or the first budget surplus on a yearly basis in 36 years. You want positive? Then put a democrat back in charge!

You want negative? Then look around. THree years and we have the highest deficits in the HISTORY of the country. We have lost 3 MILLION jobs in just three years, that never happened any time except the great depression with Hoover. You want negative, the judges you want to call qualified would love to take us back to slavery and a church run society. When your justice dept is run by a man who was fighting to keep Activly bussing black kids across town to stick them in all black schools, you are not an acceptable judge of qualifications.
You want negative, try the blaming of enron's rip off of charging 3000% higher than the highest rates in HISTORY in California on the salmon run like Cheney did. With memo's calling the program "death star" in Enron stationary, Bush said "I don't know Ken Lay". Only texas newspapers from the Gov's term show them buddy buddy as can be. He is a LIAR!@|!!!!
In the 2000 debate Bush claimed he sponsered a bill of rights for patients in Texas, and blabbered on and on about how proud he was of it. HE VETOED IT TWICE!!! And it became law WITHOUT his SIGNATURE! He's a LIAR!! Clear and plain.


You want to talk about the blackout, Fine. Lets talk about how the Grid upgrade was in the budget until BUsh told the gopers to veto it. TWICE! Republicans talk about responsibility, but somehow, when they are in office and everything always goes to hell, they are never responsible for any of it according to them. Let's talk about the fact that the company where it happened, first Energy gave hundreds of thousands to Bush and had massive leaks in their reactor in Ohio
that they barely caught when inspecters came in. The safety record for them is disgusting.
Yet thanks to Bush, the regulaters keep loosening the reigns on them.

Well, if you control all three branches, and the country is in the worst state it's been since the depression, don't tell me you aren't responisible!

You want positive agenda, look at the small business tax breaks Howard Dean gave in VErmont that increased their jobs by 26% over six years. Only his state isn't cutting everything to the bone under Bush. Only his state still has a $10 million dollar surplus to get through.
Across the country, every state run by the GOP is bankrupt. What to the republicans say for themselves? Excuse after excuse. Bill Clinton had one affair, Bush is screwing the whole nation.

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Reply #126 Top
No real need to 'give it a rest'....but just remember to discuss/debate the issue/s and continue to respect the other person's right to an opinion, whether adverse/sympathetic, right/wrong....
Reply #127 Top
Kona, if you hate these types of threads, don't read or post to them.  Everyone has the right to friendly debate the topic.
Reply #128 Top
Kona, if you hate these types of threads, don't read or post to them. Everyone has the right to friendly debate the topic.


I would think that everyone also has the right to express their disdain for such threads as this, within the thread itself.
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Ronald Reagan’s supply side economics and trickle down theories stand as one of the most effective economic policies of the 20th century, Ronald Reagan ended the cold war by bankrupting the Soviet Union in Afghanistan
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Supply side worked. Trickle down theory did not (not sure why anyone believes it did)

Afghanistan???? Yes, I think you might want to rethink that one and how it worked out in the end.


I'll said it before and I'll say it again. No matter what party you want to say is faultless or great there are going to be holes in your ideals larger than a Unoin Pacific train engine.
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Reply #130 Top
Oh and IPlural you not the only one who saw this one coming

My Mom told me back in 1993 (first world trade bombing) and basically said that they tried to do it from the ground and it didn't work.

So the next time they would do it by air. She just thought it wouldn't be in her life time.


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As far as the conspiracies are concerned for me, if there is one, by nature of its construction most (if not all) fail to reach their expectations and at worst, they backfire.
Reply #131 Top
AND why does everyone continue to think that oil is what makes the world go round?

Well actually I know why... because I used to believe that myself.

It is now and has been for a while technology and electicity.

Oil does not make electicity in the US. Coal, hydo, and nuclear do. Oil might cause many problems in the economy but electicity is by far the most important and largest indrustry.
Reply #132 Top
Joe.....look a bit closer...at all the products and by-products of oil....and all the industries reliant on its use...if nothing than for fuel for transport....Oil is very definitely a priority in Global Economy.....were it not, virtually all the pissing and moaning in and about the Middle East would vapourise overnight...
Reply #134 Top
It looks like Hanoi Dean is the front runner….they should put Al Qaida Franken in the running, the liberals love him.
Reply #135 Top

#128 by motion - 9/4/2003 8:13:10 PM
Kona, if you hate these types of threads, don't read or post to them. Everyone has the right to friendly debate the topic.

I would think that everyone also has the right to express their disdain for such threads as this, within the thread itself.

Yes, they can, but not if they say things like "comeon guys give it a rest already!"  Saying that you don't like political discussions and don't like seeing them here is one thing.  Repeatedly posting to a thread *telling* people to quit discussing it is different.  Understand?


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Reply #136 Top
Repeatedly posting to a thread *telling* people to quit discussing it is different. Understand?


I wasn't referring to the thread i was referring to everyone slamming each other about being democrat or republican. maybe I should have been more clear in my post.

decides...it was an opinion. If you took offense, oh well..
Reply #137 Top
they should put Al Qaida Franken in the running, the liberals love him.


Al Franken was funny on SNL, but I am competely turned off by his politics. Imagine the irony of an idiot calling Rush Limbaugh a big fat idiot.
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#136 by Kona0197 - 9/5/2003 7:32:37 AM

decides...it was an opinion.

*BESIDES*...it was an opinion

Reply #139 Top
...and the conspiracy theorists would find other motives for conspiracy to write their books about to make money


If you only knew what REALLY goes down behind 'closed doors' it would make the 'theorists' look very tame.




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Anyone read about the two EPA people who worked on and pushed to kill a bunch of the Clean Air Act regulations. Got them regulations eased if not thrown out totally and then a few days later they QUIT the EPA and go to work for a couple of the WORST Air Polluters in the country whom are part of the Energy Industry...

Got to love it!






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Reply #141 Top
Yes, they can, but not if they say things like "comeon guys give it a rest already!" Saying that you don't like political discussions and don't like seeing them here is one thing. Repeatedly posting to a thread *telling* people to quit discussing it is different. Understand?


The rhetorical question at the end of the above sentence notwithstanding, yes I do understand.
Reply #142 Top
If anyone corrects my spelling again i am going to scream!

Reply #143 Top
Your "i" should be capitalized, Kona
Reply #144 Top
DAMN IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CRAP! >
Reply #145 Top
The pot calling the kettle black...

who better knows the kettle is black than the black pot?

So of course Al Franken knows Rush is an idiot.

Me, I can't tell


America has enough oil and can get some more if need be to run the electical power for the nation. I am not saying oil is not important, what I am saying is that oil isn't as important as people would like to believe.

It is certainly not as important to spend billions of dollars now to hopefully control oil at some later date.

Also keep in mind there is only enough oil on this planet for anothr 50 years, so they better hurry and make a return on their investment. In order to succeed it would have to return in the trillions by 2005.

Conspiritors need a accountant if there plan was to get money out of this extremely risky venture.
Reply #146 Top
Also keep in mind there is only enough oil on this planet for anothr 50 years, so they better hurry and make a return on their investment. In order to succeed it would have to return in the trillions by 2005.


I really doubt that. Oil has been around forever and i am sure there is more than 50 yrs worth left.
Reply #147 Top
well, I guess there are going to be some people really throwing words around and spitting a fit after the 2004 election when the new residents of the White House move in whom ever that might be



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Reply #148 Top
I really doubt that. Oil has been around forever and i am sure there is more than 50 yrs worth left.


Consider it takes millions of years for oil to form and how much oil is used everyday throughout the world. I don't even know about there being 50 years worth left.



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Reply #149 Top
well, I guess there are going to be some people really throwing words around and spitting a fit after the 2004 election when the new residents of the White House move in whom ever that might be


As far as it looks, Bush will be getting four more years. There will be no new residents in the White House until January 2009.
Reply #150 Top
#137 by Tech Cat - 9/5/2003 9:45:01 AM Al Franken was funny on SNL



The utopian Liberals just adore Al Qaida Franken.