dreamscape & dreammaker

It only installs and runs in Ultimate.  
It's a good excuse to upgrade though.    

thank you will it become available to destop & wc subscribers? if you know and thank you for the response Zubaz

Will what be available? Deskscapes and Dreammaker are free.

being that i have vista home premium i guess i'll never be able to install deckscape even if i'm a subcriber and although it is free i still can't use the program. so my question is will it be available to use in the future with vista home premium

That has nothing to do with Stardock, Microsoft made it so that Dreamscene will only work on Ultimate. It's their marketing strategy to get people to buy the most expensive version of the OS.

i have vista home premium and cannot install deskscape my question is will it become available to all users in the future regardless of windows version. currently it is only available to vista ultimate users only thats how i'm understanding it. thank you & and i'm grateful for the response

You can't install it because you don't have Ultimate. It only works on Ultimate. This likely won't change because as I said, it's Microsoft's way of getting people to buy Ultimate in the first place. If Stardock somehow made Deskscapes work on other versions (which isn't possible because the technology needed is only in Ultimate) it would likely violate the partnership and Microsoft would not be happy with that.

The answer is no.

DreamScenes is an Ultimate Extra, therefore its ONLY available in Windows Vista Ultimate.  It will never be available for Vista Home Premium.  I think thats pretty clear...

If you upgrade to Ultimate, you will be able to run them.

If you do not, you will not be able to run them.

If you buy an Apple, you will not be able to run them.

If you run *nix, you will not be able to run them.

Only Vista Ultimate will run them.

  

What about Vista Ultimate Plus! ? I hear DreamScenes will be incuded on the DVD, along with numerous other "extras" that may or may not be available to "normal" Ultimate users. Any truth to that?    

hiya can anyone help me plz i have vista ultimate and have been d/l some of the dream scenes but they are coming down as a file and i dont know how to get them into ultimate can anyone plz help me here
ty so much pep

Why create another program if the technology is already working correctly? This 35 mb program is a fairly big application to be able to replicate and add a few features that already work well in ms ultimate dreamscene?

If the application is created and owned by stardock surely they have the rights to decide who can use the application not just ultimate buyers?

I'm all for art creators being able to make money, copyright their art and get the respect and also for stardock to be profitable as well, all though it seems like a more logical progression would have been to make a format which is both compatible with the current ms dreamscene and stardocks dreammaker instead of once again trying to segregate and control the users experience via the application method.

And yes i know it's free and your paying for the hosting etc those are some good points to the service you are providing, well done. cheers

Okay I will blow this out of the water.....

Is it possible to have this program for Vista Home Premium?

I have Vista Home Premium AND Dreamscene!!! Only thing is I can't install Dreamscape onto Vista Home Premium. Is there a patch for Vista Premium anywhere?

No, it is only for Vista Ultimate.

Gotta love this. There are actually people paying hundreds of dollars to upgrade from "lesser" versions of Vista to have animated wallpaper running on their desktop! pfffftt!

There are other advantages to Ultimate.

For all questions about if Dreamscene will ever work on Premium you will have to ask Microsoft. Stardock has NO control over those matters. 

There are a few of us with either Vista Home Premium or Business which have dreamscene installed and working. I too want to know is there a way to allow Dreamscape to run on a non Ultimate install since its possible with dreamscene.

P.s, the pic is not a fake If your wondering about the repeat gap at the top, I just did a second print screen / paste job in mspaint and must have moved it without noticing.

Here is the offical site: https://www.stardock.com/products/deskscapes/

Here is an offical statement from said site:

NEWS: DeskScapes 2.0 is in development. It will support nearly all versions of Windows Vista. It will be available first for Object Desktop users. See the announcement here.

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I used to work for Microsoft as part of the Vista team before Vista was released, Hell before RTM was released.



The part in the quoted section that is inaccurate is the technology needed is only in Ultimate. The technology in Vista is the same regardless of the version. I hear this crap all the time oh how Ultimate is different from home premium and home premium is different from basic, they are entirely different systems.

Every version of Vista can be installed from any Vista disc. If you are installingt Vista yourself and NOT running a recovery from an OEM disc like from HP or Dell, then it will come to a point asking you to enter your serial number or to tell it which version to install. That serial number or your choice determines which version. So what exactly is the difference? Not much. It doesn't actually install a different version. It installs the appropriate graphics for ultimate(splash screens), it turns certain options on and off, and sets Ultimate only flags. The only installed differences are a few behind the scenes applications, and library extensions. Microsoft is so sure that this is rock solid, that ANYHTING that will "only" run on a certain version, it will just check the flags, if certqain things are turned on and if the flag is set as the version it needs.

It is a trivial matter if you have Vista Home Basic, to go in an turn on the Windows Aero Glass interface, which supposedly the technology only exists in home premium and ultimate. However if you switch on the right flags, you can enable it. It's already installed. There are just 2 flags, and 2 services that are not allowed to turn on. The technology is there and it is installed. Vista is Vista. The technology is alal identical. The idea behind dreamscenes and the like is nothing new anyway. You'vebeen able to do this since XP. Just download and install a couple f DLL files, and do some registry editing and bingo, you cfan use any number of video files for a desktop background.

So please please stop spreading the ignorance that the technology in different versions of Vista are different. The only difference in each version is nothing more then some system flags being turned on and off.

I just had to sign up in order to reply to this particular thread.

I used to work for Microsoft as part of the Vista team before Vista was released, Hell before RTM was released.



The part in the quoted section that is inaccurate is the technology needed is only in Ultimate. The technology in Vista is the same regardless of the version. I hear this crap all the time oh how Ultimate is different from home premium and home premium is different from basic, they are entirely different systems.

Every version of Vista can be installed from any Vista disc. If you are installingt Vista yourself and NOT running a recovery from an OEM disc like from HP or Dell, then it will come to a point asking you to enter your serial number or to tell it which version to install. That serial number or your choice determines which version. So what exactly is the difference? Not much. It doesn't actually install a different version. It installs the appropriate graphics for ultimate(splash screens), it turns certain options on and off, and sets Ultimate only flags. The only installed differences are a few behind the scenes applications, and library extensions. Microsoft is so sure that this is rock solid, that ANYHTING that will "only" run on a certain version, it will just check the flags, if certqain things are turned on and if the flag is set as the version it needs.

It is a trivial matter if you have Vista Home Basic, to go in an turn on the Windows Aero Glass interface, which supposedly the technology only exists in home premium and ultimate. However if you switch on the right flags, you can enable it. It's already installed. There are just 2 flags, and 2 services that are not allowed to turn on. The technology is there and it is installed. Vista is Vista. The technology is alal identical. The idea behind dreamscenes and the like is nothing new anyway. You'vebeen able to do this since XP. Just download and install a couple f DLL files, and do some registry editing and bingo, you cfan use any number of video files for a desktop background.

So please please stop spreading the ignorance that the technology in different versions of Vista are different. The only difference in each version is nothing more then some system flags being turned on and off.