inc0gnito

[quote who="starkers" reply="33" id="2494117"]Seriously, though, asking for a refund on an app that was largely written for (and still works well) on XP, just because it has issues on a more recent OS, is not warranted. It'd be like sliding off the road in wet weather, then suing the tyre company becase you chose to put on dry-weather slicks.[/quote] What OS it was "developed for" is irrelevant. See the boxed (in red) areas below <img src="http://i45.tinypic.com/23rmu5e.png" alt

[quote who="messiah1" reply="15" id="2493654"] What I have a problem with is people always calling the Developer(s) out on this same, tired issue. Incognito, it seems, lurks in the corner just waiting for someone to put a thread in the OD category so he can spout the same old song and dance he's been spouting for soooooo long. I'm sure I'm not the only one tired of hearing his trivial banter, but I'm one of the few who will say something about it. Dude, we u

[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="6" id="2493422"] It is important to remember that when you purchase a product you purchase it as it is now, not as it might be in 6 - 9 months time. [/quote] While I agree that when one purchases a product, one does so on its present rather than future merits, but future merits may (and very often do) come into consideration. This is particularly applicable to ObjectDock, because its product page states that it is in constant developmen

[quote who="c242" reply="1" id="2493372"]I am as keen as Your are on 2.0, but to keep it fair : There is no right in a refund, as we all purchased 1.x. You won't ask for a refund on Windows XP because Microsoft was late on Vista, right ?[/quote]Unfortunately, that is indeed the state of affairs. Short of writing on the forum and sending an e-mail to support, there's little pressure that a customer can put on Stardock to "get a move on" with OD+. There does not seem to be much of an ince

[quote who="Mirsguy" reply="83" id="2482998"] Now I agree with you. Now if I can extend a handshake, so to speak, maybe we can end this as gentlemen.[/quote] Sure, let's shake hands. You saying that you have no problems rubbed salt into my wound of using OD+, so that's why I took it close to heart [e digicons]:'([/e]

[quote who="Hankers" reply="80" id="2482955"]This post is starting to stray a bit and getting personal. As it is in the 'Support' section it is meant to request help from Stardock support. Members are encouraged to offer help if they so chose and this is encouraged. What isn't encouraged is any personal attacks and from some of the responses it is nearing that. Please refrain from such activity. Thank you[/quote] Apologies if I descended to such a leve

[quote who="wc2005" reply="76" id="2482867"]...but i think if they do not show the users some improvements or new things for it, ObjectDock will be forgiven sooner or later...[/quote]Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you meant to say "forgotten" and not "forgiven", right?

[quote who="Mirsguy" reply="75" id="2482866"] My menus don't hide behind other things, etc... [/quote] I'm not talking about your menus. I am talking about a specific context menu for that particular program that is installed on my system. Don't compare your menus to my menus if they are not the same. [quote who="Mirsguy" reply="75" id="2482866"] And messenger? That would be an issue with, you guessed it; MESSENGER! [/quote] Errr, wrong. The way Tas

Hold on a moment, Mirsguy stated on the very first page of this thread that he could not reproduce any of the problems mentioned in the Bugs' thread. He got called out for that. Turns out that he didn't reproduce the behaviour, he just said what his experience with Windows 7 + OD is. Fair enough, I respect that. However, people who aren't willing to go to the lengths of attempting to reproduce bugs or tinker with their configurations shouldn't get involved in threads to do with bugs.

[quote who="Jafo" reply="63" id="2482140"] If others have not experienced any issues with 'their' use of a proggy [from wherever, not just Stardock's software] then it just MIGHT point to the problem being 'local' and not user-wide/endemic with the software. [/quote] Herein lies a problem, Jafo. 'Their' use is not the same as 'my' use and they are not willing to step into 'my shoes'. Therefore, one cannot compare those two. For example, if I have a problem with a particular

[quote who="Wizard1956" reply="61" id="2482100"] I see nothing in OD's documentation or system requirements that says it will be compatable far into the future on any OS. [/quote] OD product page does say: "In constant development, ObjectDock and ObjectDock Plus are enhanced often to provide the most unique features of any stylized shortcut organizer / launcher available." Stemming from that statement, I do not think that it is unreasonable for OD to be compatibl

[quote who="RedneckDude" reply="58" id="2482002"] Dude, I have very few problems with ANY of Stardock's programs. Saying that does not constitute heckling. Mirsguys is here because he is a very talented artist, and he is happy to create and share. He is here, as are most of us, to enjoy each other, and each other's work. We like to try to help when we can, but it is not our job, or our reason for being here, to cater to what you think our job is. I have stayed silen

[quote who="Jafo" reply="55" id="2481904"] All sorts of reasons....possibly the last of which is to attempt to 'break' a program prior to which he has struck no problem/s. People are here to interact as they see fit...some tend to be here only to complain, others are here only to enjoy. Their choice, really....[/quote] I can understand that a person may be reluctant to 'break' a program. However, I also don't think it's fair for a person to come out and say

[quote who="Vampothika" reply="53" id="2481847"]its NOT HIS JOB as many of us have said, send an email to stardock....[/quote]I didn't say or imply that it is. So what's the point of a forum then? A forum is meant for discussion of matters relating to a forum's subject. It's a place where we can exchange information and share experiences. It's a place where a community of users can foster and collaborate together. If a user is unwilling to help another user with a particular matter related to

[quote who="starkers" reply="51" id="2481679"] Why on Earth would Mirsguy even want to reproduce a bug on his system? The end result would create issues... issues he does NOT need (or proof of) on his machine. The person with whom this (reproduction issue) should be addressed is the developer. Put another way, if someone asked to to reproduce a dose of the clap, would you want to create an undesirable effect??[/quote] Do you even know how bug reporting

[quote who="Vampothika" reply="48" id="2481393"] wtf does mirsguy have to do with object dock bugs?? lol hes just a skinner, not the creator of the program...you should be sending an email to stardock support if you have issues. and or check yr pc.[/quote]I was simply asking him to check if he can reproduce the bugs that I have been encountering. Whether he's a skinner or the creator of the program doesn't make a difference as far as whether one can reproduce a bug or not.

MarkLederer, that's a conundrum though. It's a "hit and miss" type of situation. Some people report it working, some are having serious issues. The official line is that Stardock haven't released a version that is fully compatible, hence it's not supported. However, I do agree with OP's statements.

Left click on an icon of a program in systray and hold for 2-3 seconds -- the normal dock properties window will appear.

Yes, support cases have been filed for some of them. Some I was told were known bugs to them. Some I was told were added to list of issues that would be looked that. No updated builds have been released to incorporate those bug fixes. You're free to make your own conclusions. As for whether the bugs that I mentioned are problems with the actual program, I think that they are. The hibernation issue certainly is, incorrect display of context meny from systray is, Skype focus error is, n

[quote who="Shelbygt_the_Car~!" reply="40" id="2466318"] inc0gnito, can you give us the info about this bug here again... seems I missed that or other? [/quote] It's more than just one. Look at all the bug reports that have been posted here: https://forums.stardock.com/357439

[quote who="Mirsguy" reply="36" id="2466195"]You know I'm a skinner, not a developer, right?[/quote]Doesn't make a damned bit of difference as far as bug reproduction is concerned. You can either do it or you can't.

I was the one suggesting that Mirsguy should try to reproduce the bugs. The whole point of trying to reproduce a bug is to see what your experience is when following those procedures. When I submit a bug report to a developer, I include the steps I took to elicit incorrect behaviour. This is so a developer can take those same steps and trace the code flow from one stage to another to narrow down the part that's causing a problem.

[quote who="Mirsguy" reply="22" id="2465460"] You've been on this site for less than 6 months, you're not even a current customer (so how do you know so much about OD+?) and the only times I ever see you around are to hate on ObjectDock, with the same complaints over and over.[/quote] Just because I've been a member of this site for less than 6 months, does that change anything? I am actually a current customer -- I bought OD+ 3 & 1/2 years ago, in the summer of 2006. And I s

[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="18" id="2465130"]Different people may use the applications in different ways and so may not encounter all the same issues.[/quote] In my earlier post I asked if Mirsguy could reproduce the bugs. Reproducing means using an application and any related ones in a specific manner to elicit a particular behaviour. He may not have encountered them through the way he uses OD+, but has he actually taken the steps to install the relevant 3rd party apps to repro

[quote who="Mirsguy" reply="13" id="2464589"] Yes. That's what I'm saying. No problems, no bugs. Just easy functionality.[/quote] With all due respect, I cannot believe that. All people who posted in that thread cannot be wrong. The hibernation bug has been acknowledged by Stadock. For the bugs that I reported I provided proof. So many people wouldn't be asking about OD 2.0/64-bit/Win 7 if they didn't have issues. There's simply too much evidence to the contrary of what you've st