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[quote who="neophil78" reply="132" id="2534322"]Stardock's products have always been in betas and customers beta testers [/quote] Sure, but a perk of being a beta tester was a bonus to purchasing a product license. Now there's a turnaround: you pay to get into the beta with a perk of getting the official release when it's all done and dusted. Seems the same, but it really isn't. When I pay to see a stand up comedian, I don't pay to see the supporting guy while the main act nips off fo

[quote who="warreni" reply="41" id="2534287"] Just to clarify, the Microsoft betas you mentioned were time-limited and did not grant you a license to use the full finished product without paying. Buying the OD + Beta means that you can participate in the beta test process and you will automatically receive the full version when it is "officially" released. That's a big difference.[/quote] Let's clarify even further. Although they were time-limited (what's

[quote who="Island Dog" reply="126" id="2534154"] Pre-order is giving you early access to the application. Pretty much the same as with WindowBlinds and any other app that has early "beta" releases for people who are either current subscribers or who preordered. [/quote] Considering that existing OD+ customers get access to in-cycle betas anyway, what is in the way of providing time-limited access to 2.0 beta as well? You get the feedback and bug reports and people get

[quote who="neophil78" reply="29" id="2534155"]Got the email to pre-order ObjectDock 2, paid for it, and nothing showing in Impulse to install it [/quote] Small print of the email says "The ObjectDock 2.0 beta is scheduled to begin within the next couple of weeks." So while you may have paid today you may (or may not, anything is possible) only get access sometime in the next 2 weeks.

I am quite displeased with the fact that Stardock are charging people to participate in the beta. Sure, at some point down the line this charge account for the updates between 2.0 and 3.0. However, for the time being, people are paying to test software, make no mistake about that. Conventionally, that's not something that people are charged for since they are doing a good deed to the developer, especially with bug reports and notifications of incompatibility issues. There also seems t

[quote who="Phoon" reply="116" id="2533649"] Sorry to rain on your ever-on-going-boo-hoo tirades about Object Dock but if you actually READ THE DAMN THING you would see that for the $10 you will get the upgrade AND... (wait for it)... participate in the beta as well. Seems you always troll, looking for any opportunity to cause a tirade whenever someone mentions OD. Get over it![/quote] I'll post my thoughts regarding this in a dedicated thread that has been created already.

Something is a bit fishy here [e digicons]>_>[/e] One would have to pay to try the beta and report bugs (if any) to Stardock? You are having a giraffe, surely...especially after people waiting nearly 3 years for it [e digicons]:omg:[/e]

Without wishing to stir up another flamefest, I think it'd do no harm to reflect on something. In the past 3 or so months, the following programs/packages got STABLE releases: IconPackager 5, DeskScapes 3.0 and 3.1, Logon Studio, Skin Studio, Fences Pro, WindowBlinds 7 and Tweak 7. While it MAY mean that we're getting closer to OD+ being released, it is also indicative of the fact that while other programs got STABLE releases that fully support Windows 7, OD+ hasn't even had a single alpha/be

[quote who="starkers" reply="101" id="2504697"]incognito, I'm done responding to your nitpicking, use of semantics and weak attempts to justify yourself..... Goodbye.[/quote] Very well. I think that I put forward a solid argument, but you decided to withdraw from the discussion. Enjoy your day [e digicons]:)[/e]

[quote who="starkers" reply="98" id="2504676"] FACT 1: OD 1.0 (free and plus) was NOT written for Vista or Win 7 [/quote] I never claimed that OD 1.0 was written for Vista or Win 7. I did however claim that 1.9 has been written to take advantage of Vista, which is the case as stated in this Stardock announcement: https://www.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?aid=151112 [quote who="starkers" reply="98" id="2504676"] FACT 4: OD 1.0 (free and Plus) DOES SUPPORT Vista,

[quote who="WinMonster2" reply="95" id="2504654"] inc0gnito, Have you actually upgraded to windows 7, as I remember a post a while back that you said you were thinking about upgrading. If you have upgraded to windows 7 then you know that had the choice and went into it knowing that 7 was not supported by OD. [/quote] I have upgraded to Windows 7, but all (except for one) bugs that I have filed in the "Bugs in ObjectDock" thread are present in Vista. If I downgrade to Vista,

[quote who="Jafo" reply="92" id="2504290"] Or... One can install on XP and stay with both XP and the product and enjoy it all for centuries or until electricity becomes redundant....either one....[/quote]Considering that OD+ supports both XP and Vista, according to Stardock, one has a choice and its Stardock's responsibility to make sure that the product works correctly on all operating systems that they claim to support. [quote who="starkers" reply="93" id="2504589"]

[quote who="starkers" reply="90" id="2503622"]And why not?[/quote]Perhaps because for the majority of the time that I've been using OD+ I've had issues that still have not been fixed? Stardock has 90 days refund policy (60 days for PayPal). So one can install on XP, run fine for over 90 days, upgrade to Vista, encounter a bunch of problems and be stuck. 90 days have elapsed and Stardock is asking to pay for bugfixes on a supported platform. That doesn't seem reasonable to me. One can actually

[quote who="mr roberts" reply="88" id="2503365"]heh. reading your.. many posts and frustration regarding object dock reminds me why i no longer subscribe to stardock products incOgnito. i admire your persistence though:)[/quote]If a product works without problems and does the job well enough, I wouldn't seriously consider resubscribing. Unfortunately, I have a hunch that I will have to fork out for OD + 2.0 to upgrade. We'll see, maybe Stardock will be nice...

[quote who="blueman7061218" reply="5" id="2497548"]Is there a way to upload the screen shot of how it looks after I unlock my screen?[/quote] Yes. Upload it to an image host like ImageShack or TinyPic and insert it into your post using "Insert/Edit image" control. In your post reply form, see that icon of a tree? That's the one.

Yep, this has been mentioned in OD Bugs thread here: https://forums.stardock.com/357439/get;2353406 The reason it happens is because each HDD has its own hidden Recycler folder that is the actual location of Recycle Bin. So when you delete stuff from that HDD it goes to that folder. Therefore, if you have a Recycle Bin in a dock and you empty it, OD goes

[quote who="Hankers" reply="77" id="2495391"]incOgnito - You have made your point and are starting to get personal. Personal attacks are not allowed and could result in your posting privileges being cut.[/quote]I'm the one getting personal? What about CarGuy1 and starkers? The former accused me of not being a Stardock customer and the latter was rude in one of his replies. That's not getting personal? I have simply defended myself and did so in a polite and calm manner. [quote who="Ha

[quote who="CarGuy1" reply="75" id="2495376"] I didn't say you are not a customer. I'm saying you have created a second profile stating you're "incognito" for the sole purpose of complaining. The action of creating a second profile just to stir up crap is trolling and causes you to loose all credibility. [/quote] You said that on the basis of my profile not showing a purchase of OD you deem me not to be a customer. That is a prejudicial judgement that is deeply offensive. Pe

[quote who="JcRabbit" reply="70" id="2495283"] ObjectDock is Jeff's baby, the same way WindowBlinds is Neil's baby and Winstep Xtreme/Nexus is my baby. Each one of us knows the applications we develop inside out - and we're probably the only ones that do. Bringing in an outside programmer would not help things at all, as there aren't a lot of people in the world who have the necessary experience and knowledge to do what we do. These are highly complex applications, trust me (es

[quote who="PoSmedley" reply="64" id="2494840"] Where does it say that you are gauranteed ANY maintenance or updates? Objectdock would not be the first software that was dropped by the makers and left as is in it's current state. You must have realized that when you purchased it. Look at half the desktop enhancement programs that have been abandonded. If you have ISSUES with your software, if it's broken, you would be much better off listing the bugs. Stardock relies heavily on the input

[quote who="angus1949" reply="52" id="2494537"]Do you use Window? Point made.[/quote]Do you mean "Windows"? As in a type of an OS? Yes, I do. Yet I do not see your point [quote who="Hankers" reply="53" id="2494540"]incOgnito - You have made your point several times in this post. If you have a complaint on how Stardock runs it's business then please email complaints@stardock.com. There have been replies from Stardock personnel already in this post and it's still the Ho

[quote who="angus1949" reply="50" id="2494424"]Let's just face it. The OP was an ass in the rude way he approached his inquiry. I also know that the Stardock staff are working on a multitude of projects and they will get done when they are done. No amount of beating the dead horse here will change things. Maybe more support and encouragement instead of negativity would serve us better all the way around. IMHO threads like this should be ignored from the star

[quote who="RedneckDude" reply="46" id="2494349"] I didn't intend for you to be employed by Stardock, just be a good community member and share your skills to help the community, like littleboy and people like him. You have the skill, this should be about the betterment of the community, if you are a member, rather than being about you, or you having a gripe with Stardock. I would gladly help if I had the skill. Believe me, DesktopX is in much worse shape than OD.[/quote] I would

[quote who="RedneckDude" reply="43" id="2494333"] Then jump in there and help fix it, instead of complaining. [/quote] Unfortunately my employment contract with my current company precludes me from being employed by any other company for the duration of the contract. Besides, Stardock got itself into this mess, it's up to them to dig themselves out of it.

[quote who="JcRabbit" reply="36" id="2494177"]Sorry guys, while I totally understand your frustration, as a software developer myself I have to side with Stardock on this one. When you purchase an application, you should only do it for what it does for you *now*, not for whatever expectations you have about it in the future (unless, of course, the developer stated that x or y features will be coming soon). [/quote]JcRabbit, I am a fellow software developer, so hopef