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What happened to skin Moderation Lately???

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What happened to skin Moderation Lately???

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Listen I can't skin worth a Sh--. But sheesh. Over the last few weeks I've had to rub my eyes and clean my glasses when checking out some of the new admissions here at Wincustomize. And what's up with all these wallpapers being posted here of all these glob, drippy, distorted, mucous, exploding, gumby shaped thingies. These are so overdone. And Wincustomize says "The finest collection of Wallpapers on the Internet!", I don't think so. One only has to go to >>>>> http://www.digitalblasphemy.com/ for that. Now before you all go getting your geco panties in a wad let it be known that I've been visiting Wincustomize since the beginning, I've purchased WinFX, WB, OB, many of the skin suites if not all and I was a Object Desktop subscriber since last year(plan on renewing next month). My intent is not to insult any of the skinners or Wincustomize. I just like great skins, walls etc. And for those who are going to tell me to leave... Uh Huh I'm gonna stay. I never said I didn't like it here, I just think things have gotten away from Wincustomize's original Sprirt. And for those of you who are gonna say what do you want for free. Sure I've downloaded skins for free, but I believe I've purchased every skin suite from Stardock/Wincustomize also from Pixtudio so I'm not a freeloader. Let's just watch the uploads people.
RANTING Done.

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Reply #151 from WinCustomize Forums Top

If you walk into a restuarant you expect to be treated a certain way, as you are the paying customer! The same goes for a boutique or ANY RETAIL/SERVICE establishment. Because this is online, it is NOT exempt from that. We all at some point paid for SOMETHING here! And maybe we should 'pay' for a customer service/treatment seminar for certain people as well.


maybe i am dumb but i don't see the connection. you go to a website and upload artwork to it. you are using the bandwidth and disk space of that website to do it. it charges you nothing to do it. but you object that the people who run the website want to have a say about which artwork they host? and to top that off you see your connection to the website as the same as a customer at a restraunt? excuse me? so is jafo your waiter? and frogboy your maitre'd in this fantasy? where is the part where you tip the waiter or pay for your food?

what they do? cancel a musical you were invovled in and you want to try out yoru drama skills here? get over yourself.
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Reply #153 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Wheres my food I have been here for 15 damn minutes already.There will be no tip and if this treatment continues,we shall leave.
Reply #154 from WinCustomize Forums Top

*Bangs head on desk* This is NOT about having work rejected.

You're right. It's not. It's about egos. Or more specifically, the egos of a few self-appointed elites who have spent the past few days telling us how poorly our site is run while advertising for other sites without recognizing how tacky that is.

I like deviantARt, I go there every day to get cool art, submit art, write in my journal, read the forums, etc. So you going there isn't a personal blow or anything.

And you are right, they don't moderate. That's why I know that today's most popular deviation is this: 

http://www.deviantart.com/view/2527405

And I must confess, such a submission would have been moderated here. I'm okay with that though.

Reply #155 from WinCustomize Forums Top
White_Moth is only passing through while steadily winging his way towards the Light, perhaps even a little faster now.



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Reply #156 from WinCustomize Forums Top
http://www.deviantart.com/view/2527405


***SOB*** Someone using my ISP got me banned and I never can see! I tried writing to them twice! It has been a long, long time. I never even posted anything there.
Reply #158 from WinCustomize Forums Top

goodmorphing....fear not, you ain't missing much with that link.....but contact jark...he's a 'good guy'[tm]...and explain your problem with devart site access....I'm sure he'll help you...

wombat...yes, I subscribe to only one comp mag....PC Answers and primarily because it has that Extreme Customizing section......AND I read that edition where he slammed Wincustomize's walls.....however to be fair [], at about that time....two or three successive issues...he waged a one-man vendetta against us [and Stardock]....clearly a personal gripe and genuinely of gutter-press standard trash editorial....sufficient to wipe any credibility he may have thought he had as a knowledgeable expert in the world of skinning and GUI customizing.

These days I take passing interest in noting an apparent revision of his stance, suggesting his superiors have requested he refrain from editorialising and slandering various entities.

PC Answers came close to receiving a very large piece of my mind....but I decided [as many agree] that I couldn't spare it...

Reply #159 from WinCustomize Forums Top

The author of those articles is "Dokt" who is exiled from this site and is on probation on Neowin for the same reasons.

We plan to talk to PC Answers about his crusade against us.

Reply #160 from WinCustomize Forums Top
i've been reading this whole thread or post, i just dont get it, with all the creative minds here, y cant we come up with some positive solutions and stop throwing crab @ each other, b4n.

denny
Reply #161 from WinCustomize Forums Top
The way I see it is you either like it or leave. Why stick around and piss and moan and create problems and still up everyone. What, is it fun for you? Misery loves company.Your life is so crappy that you have to make everyone else feel the same way so that you will feel happy. If you don't like the place, pull your stuff and leave. If not, then quit crying and become part of the solution. It's been a long time since I've seen so many cry babies as I have on this site.



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Reply #162 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Out of respect WOM....I won't bash the messenger rather the message. On the one hand.....you want a resolution....on the other you want us to leave. I know that we would rather stay if things were better. I for one got a distaste for WC only after I started visiting the messageboard.

Before then, I thought WC was the greatest place on earth. But......slowly I started feeling that something was wrong.........people were very sarcastic....rude.....argumentative....and talked down to many people.

You are seriously missing our point. Moderation is not the point..........getting low ratings is not it either.....it's poor treatment of the members that get's us ticked off and makes us leave. Where ever I go I tell people to steer clear of the messageboard on WC that's what made me get up and move.
Reply #163 from WinCustomize Forums Top

WOM...I'd prefer they all just take it all out on me, personally, and privately, and stop trying to inflate its importance and their self worth for no common good....

Moderators in particular are tired of the constant accusation/insinuation of prejudice and/or political favour.

The reality is that a person's wall is more likely to be downloaded here than on any other site, so every rejection is seen as a loss of potential 'fame and fortune'....in other words, it's not about 'community' it is about exposure...about 'self'.

Though it pissed me off at the time, considering all the time, care and attention on a personal, one-on-one level that I spent with him, JamMeister's departure from Wincustomize, migrating to Devart was done with maturity and class....calmly and quietly...and I must respect him for that.  People leave....mature people leave with maturity.

I'm sure he's happy over there...as am I.  I'm happy retaining my connections to all the skinning sites, though some have been genuinely objectionable at times [on far more profound levels than wall moderation].

Reality sets in and acceptance of the varying idiosyncracies of each skinning 'community', and where we all 'fit in' within the grand scheme of things...

Reply #164 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Jafo.....you really are assuming too much. I have no sense of vanity when it comes to this situation. I'm starting to sound like a broken record....when I say that it's not about moderation. If it was then you "might" have a point, but as I can see you are not reading and understanding what we are saying.

As far as a fame.....uhhh no, don't need it because I am too humble for that. Fortune......ummmm no because this is only a hobby. I in fact am more then generous to anyone who has ever asked help from me. I've gone as far as giving people source files so they could see how I did something, so no, really I'm not in it for the money.

So having said that, your point is baseless in my eyes, but I am certain you'll come up with something else.
Reply #165 from WinCustomize Forums Top

What is boils down to is simple "grass is greener on the other side of the fence."

A lot of us who have been around a long while DO know all the other sites quite well. I like deviantART a lot and I am good friends with Jark. But any claim that their message boards are nicer in tone than this one or any other typical on-line forum is just plain ignorance at work.

Reply #166 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Green Armani, as I've commented on your work, you know where I stand. I didn't mention anything about ratings or moderation on my previous post. I said to quit being part of the problem and try to be part of the solution. Its the people who constantly stir everything up thats the problem. The site has parameters and if the people can't work within them and they can't be changed nicely, then they should leave instead of inciting a riot.



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Reply #167 from WinCustomize Forums Top
GA....sorry...I'm a two-fingered typist....my post number #163 was not in response to you, as yours had not been posted at the time....
Reply #168 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I think that our appproach isn't trying to incite a riot....I only cxan speak for my posts but I've been quite clear and "tried" not to offend anyone. I just can't understand why it turned to this back and forth exchange. Can't it all be salvalged where our concerns are taken under consideration rather then being called crybabies....or whiners.......or egoscentric wanna-be's ?
Reply #169 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I don't knwo if this is the case with you but when an author deletes all their work and leaves over the slightest provocation, it is, in my book, being a "crybaby".

I know how long it takes to submit work to any given site. Deleting it all over vague views of "lack of fairness" to "artists" is infantile in my opinion.

To many old timers especially, it comes across as pampered whiners complaining about anythign they can find. For instance, people take for granted that they have the power to remove their own work (I'm not sure you can even do this on all the sites even today). 

There was one site in which the admins of the site were literally name-calling top authors and contributors on a repeated basis. We're not talking vague stuff, we're talking profantiy ridden attacks at people who had contributed to that site for years.

So from our vantage point, for someone to "take their ball" and go home because of some nebulous concern over "respect for artists" (which seems like a hollow concern on a site like this one where artists are constantly highlighted and celebrated) seems pretty childish.

Reply #170 from WinCustomize Forums Top
What I find childish is the fact that my account was removed. Can I get my money back? I paid for a 2 year subscription!! Where is the justice in that, you merely cannot get rid of someone because they are not in line with your views. I can easily say that I didn't belittle, make fun of, speak vulgarly, or try to hurt anyone's feelings. But, here I am wondering why my account would be removed when I know the rules here on WC would have me exiled if I did any of those things. Is that the way things are handled?
Reply #171 from WinCustomize Forums Top

It can be hard to respond to a thread like this because so many different people post their bit to it. I was responding (not even sure if it's this thread or one of the other ones) to 3 other people before Apocalypse and LadyA showed up.

The other posts were concerning ratings though they quickly degenerated into accusations of admin abuse, elitism and site politics. None of the accusations made any sense to me. I'm willing to accept that I might be biased or I might not take things as personaly as others might. But I still haven't seen a case of admins treating people unfairly and definitely not the horrors we were accused of by some other posts.

I feel we're more than willing to discuss site issues and listen to legitimate concerns. I think those of you making claims of abuse might be confusing message board rhetoric for site policy and member posts with admin posts.

We're willing to discuss these things but bringing the drama to such a level as leaving the site to protest severe abuse, without any examples other than vague references and generalities, puts the discussion at a real disadvantage.

Reply #172 from WinCustomize Forums Top
GA - What do you mean your account was removed?
Reply #173 from WinCustomize Forums Top

In what way was your account "removed"? If your account was removed you wouldn't be able to post.

Reply #174 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Well, I was trying to post a reply when I hit submit...it said that I needed to login....so I tried logging in and it told me that email was non-existent.

That is what I am talking about. The friciton that you may have with a few people (me) who is trying to shed light on what a minority of members are experiencing....you just remove them. Isn't that what more ominous world leaders tried to do in the history of humanity? Here it's okay to do I guess.
Reply #175 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I just created a new one with out a space in my nick....................it really doesn't matter anymore, you gentlemen and ladies who I am not trying to change your minds about this, simply do not care to listen. You hear like Charlie Brown hears his teacher and then you remove me. Where is the justice!!!!