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For all you tech buffs

For all you tech buffs

Ok, I want a little help from all of you tech buffs out there. I need to create a computer that is both relatively cheap (under 600 $) but can run all games (excluding maybe supcom) at a good clip and a decent setting.
i.e. I want a really nice gaming computer for cheap. I want to see what you guys recommend so that I can look into it.
on that note, what is the fastest internet connection you guys know of? so far I heard comcast is pretty good.
and if you want to have fun with this, on the off chance I can raise the money, what about a computer for 800$.
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Reply #51 Top
You should get a PSU from a brand name, I 300w PSU from a brand name could perform better then some 600w psu from a crappy off brand.
Reply #52 Top
but it cant be too expensive...
and I dont know up from down with this!
Reply #53 Top
heres some to choose from:
THERMALTAKE TR2 W0090RU 470W Power Supply ATX12V V2.0 - Retai
$65.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick - Retail
$169.99
(i know its VERY expensiv)

COOLER MASTER eXtreme RP-500-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 500W Power Supply 110-115V/ 220V-230V Nemko, TUV, cUL, CE, BSMI, FCC, CCC - Retail
$49.99

most of them seems to be 100+ $$$
Im sorry, but i dont know alot of good model on this part.
I would go for the CORSAIR, but you cant, as your on a budget

But a PSU close to the 500W is okey. But maybe someone else can help out with some other models.
Reply #54 Top
thermaltake one looks good...
Reply #55 Top
There's also a 520w Corsair for $120. The Corsair PSUs are rebranded units from Seasonic, which is a popular name in the silent PC market.

If budget is the biggest concern, the mid-range models from Thermaltake, Rosewill, or FSP should get the job done, but they're not as sure of a bet as the higher end ones. These will run you in the $40-$60 range.

Reply #56 Top
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor

this processor
THERMALTAKE TR2 W0090RU 470W Power Supply ATX12V V2.0 - Retai

this PSU...
Raidmax apex case $49.99

this
Evga 320mb Gforce 8800GTS pci express 16x 289.99

this
Turbo 2GB (2x1Gb) 240pin DDR2 667 $163

these
Intel 945g LGA 775, DDR2 667 MicroBTX 240pin $102.99

and this?

is that all I need (I think I'm missing something... dunno what)
and will that make a nice computer?
Reply #57 Top
1.Do you want a dedicated sound card?
That motherboard probably has on-board sound but that will have more "noise" and may not support surround sound.

It will also put more demand on the cpu for processing sound and will lower your fps.

You could of course just buy the system without a sound card and add one in later if the on-board is not satisfactory. A creative sound card will probably run you about 60 bucks for a basic one.

2.Looking at that chopped down graphics card kind of turns my stomach, but it is Dx10 compatible and can run any game you want at lower (read 1280*800 ish) resolutions.

Personally I'm waiting for Ati/Amd's return salvo. The new R600 chipset looks to be a ringer and they SAID its coming out within the next two months. But I am getting tired of waiting...
Reply #58 Top
I am all for on-board sound, my mobo has 6.1 channel on-board sound and it is just fine!
Reply #59 Top
The newer motherboards sometimes have quiet nice on-board sounds. Intel has some nice integrated chipsets.

But you're going to see a performance hit if your computer's bottleneck is the cpu and not the graphics card. I don't know which will be the case with this 8800 GTS card. I know with the 8800 GTX card cpu power is a big issue.

I haven't had a dedicated sound card since I got this laptop 3 years ago, hopefully soon with the money I've saved from my summer jobs I'll get a new pc.
Reply #60 Top
Ahhh, geek fest!!

It burns my eyes!!


Go back to your discussions, and call the ambulance
Reply #61 Top
shut up emp, I'm trying to get something useful here.
Reply #62 Top
shut up emp, I'm trying to get something useful here.


Very well, Ill be quite.

Reply #63 Top
I still think you should just use the PC you have Schem...
Reply #64 Top

shut up emp, I'm trying to get something useful here.


Very well, Ill be quite.

lol

ntel 945g LGA 775, DDR2 667 MicroBTX 240pin $102.99

well i like that motherboard

but im a bit confused about the SATA 3GB/s vs SATA 150, since SATA 150 seems to be the only one with 10.000rpm and the best seek/write times.
Reply #65 Top


shut up emp, I'm trying to get something useful here.


Very well, Ill be quite.


lol


Only time youll ever see me being nice to Schem
Reply #66 Top
hi all hope i can help

I am an account manager in Dell (ireland) my best advice is not to rush into buying a cheap machine now then having to upgrade it several times later its always worth saving up and getting a slightly better one, even if you have to wait a little while

personally i like to custom build my machines ive built my gaming pc and a media center, i enjoy building the systems and theres definitly a sense of satisfaction when you hit the power button and its working!!

spec wise definitley cpu --core 2 minimum,
1gb ram minimum, if your running vista i would say 2gb min.
hard drives are cheap as chips these days - this one is up to you depending on the ammount of data you plan on having
---dvdrw
motherboard --- get a decent one, your building your system around this so its worth getting one thats future proofed and can take upgrades (and has enough pci /pci express slots for expansion)
for graphics--- a really good option is the 8800 gts 320m they are quite cheap compared to their bigger brother the gtx
psu --- make sure its got plenty of cables to attach to all your parts
case --- go for a big one giving room for expansion and for big graphics cards
there is still alot of debate about vista - im afraid to recommend anything here!
personally i use windows media center edition, it works fine,

on a side note make sure you have all the relevant internal cables if your building your own system

im assuming you have monitor, mouse etc.

I had a look on the dell US site they are cheaper than here for home users
theres one the XPS 410 this is the evalue code 6V620-DXCWNF1 i added the 256MB nVidia GeForce 7900 GS graphics card and took off the monitor speakers kb and m,
and it comes out at $999 delivered with these specs

XPS 410 Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6300 (2MB L2 Cache,1.86GHz,1066 FSB)
Operating System Genuine Windows Vistaâ„¢ Home Premium
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
Keyboard No Keyboard
Monitor No Monitor
Video Card 256MB nVidia GeForce 7900 GS
Hard Drive 250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cacheâ„¢
Floppy Drive and Media Reader No Floppy Drive Included
Mouse No Mouse
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
CD or DVD Drive Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Speakers No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
Office Software (not included in Windows XP) Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
Security Software McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 15-months
Warranty and Service 1Yr Ltd Warranty and At-Home Service
Internet Access Service 6 Months of America Online Membership Included
Dell Digital Entertainment Trial pack- Basic and trial products from Corel and Yahoo
Labels Windows Vistaâ„¢ Premium


if you ring into the sales lines you might be able to get it cheaper,

hope this helps!!!








Reply #67 Top
Hmm, that 7900 Gs is a decent card, but its Dx9 not Dx10. If we're talking about future proofing here then it would be better to go with a Dx10 card.

Though how that 8800 Gts is going to run Crysis I don't know... Nvidia took a chainsaw to it to make it that cheap. Still, the benchmarks say it performs comparably to a 7950 GT so....maybe it will be fine.

Oh and Media Center is the operating system of choice in my opinion; It's not burdened with Vista's growing pains and it comes with a coupon for a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium. (Or it did when I last looked.) Plus I think it supports twice as much RAM as XP Home does.

Schem, if you think you can go without the warranty and keep your pc running yourself then build it yourself. Cheaper.
Reply #68 Top
yeah. so far my final (and only real) remaining concern is the motherboard
I now have several people telling me that the current mobo is out of place and not as good as the rest of teh parts. anyone ahve some suggestions? (remember, cheap but functional)
Reply #69 Top
For a motherboard I immediately think of the Asus P5N-E
WWW Link
^There's a review of the motherboard I'm fond of.
WWW Link
^There it is at new egg. 130$

I've been looking at this one or a more feature-rich version of this board for my own computer-project for months now. It's the 650i chipset, not the 680i chipset but it really doesn't affect it performance wise.
Reply #70 Top
not to nag, but the review says that it has very limited upgrade potential.
Reply #71 Top
I just found the greatest comp for only $700.

Has very very good specs( I could be nice and specify, but I was told to be quite )

Quite a find, sadly no money

Sorry to interupt by the way....
Reply #72 Top
selection
this is what I think I'm going for. I dont know what I'm missing though
I also need a (cheap) but quick CD/DVD combo drive.
Reply #73 Top
selection
this is what I think I'm going for. I dont know what I'm missing though
I also need a (cheap) but quick CD/DVD combo drive.


You need to put it in a wish list and make it public for anyone else to see it.
Reply #74 Top
ah woops
figured that would be an issue.
ok. I need a box, a hardrive and a combo driver CD/DVD.

sorry, give me a sec as a get a functional wishlist up.
Reply #75 Top

Intel BOXD945GBOLKR LGA 775 Intel 945G MicroBTX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: BOXD945GBOLKR
Item #: N82E16813121021

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In Stock
$102.99

EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Model #: 320-P2-N811-AR
Item #: N82E16814130082

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In Stock
$279.99

Thermaltake W0093RU ATX 12V 2.0 Version 500W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: W0093RU
Item #: N82E16817153028

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In Stock
$79.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6300
Item #: N82E16819115005

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In Stock
$183.00

pqi TURBO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PQI25400-2GDB - Retail
Model #: PQI25400-2GDB
Item #: N82E16820141211

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$163.99
Subtotal: $809.96

you're gonna have to make due with this.