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New Computer Build HELP!

New Computer Build HELP!

Need some help to all you computer experts.

I am currently building a new system for a friend. He went on Ebay and purchased a New PC Chips motherboard (new in the box even) along with a new case and a 400 watt power supply.

The board runs socket 370 processors as in Pentium 2 and Celeron but this one CAME with a VIA Giga Pro 600 mhz chip and a stick of 64 mb SD RAM.

I added out of my own pocket a 540 meg gig hard drive and a 32x CD ROM.

I hooked everything up and tried to load windows 98 (my friend says that windows 98 will work until he gets a stick of 256 SD RAM and a 40 gig Hard Drive) but windows did not want to load all the way. It keep having problems right at the detecting hardware phase.

I tracked down the problem to the stick of 64 meg SD RAM. Bad stick. So I gave a stick from my own system to him. (I am down to 128 for XP > )

I proceed to load 98 and it worked and was stable.

I then got him a 1 gig drive and am now trying to load 98 and ME but both will not take.

Any ideas? What Am I doing wrong?
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Reply #26 Top
mmm...

yeah it is ironic on a few fronts which I won't go into...

Kone, call me or email me... if or when you need some help
Reply #27 Top
Kone, call me or email me... if or when you need some help


Yes I will do that brother. It will save me from all this BS from those who do not wish to help me.
Reply #28 Top
I'd help if I knew how. Some people care
Reply #29 Top
no need, It was a problem with a video driver and i fixed it. thanks everybody (who helped)

Reply #31 Top

Kona....most, as in almost all, problems with an OS install are Driver problems.

One of the reasons why ME is lauded as being the worst MS OS of all time is just that......the miracle is that it CAN be installed on a system at all..Stick with 98 [se] if you can.....it's infinitely superior to ME in terms of capability to be used on 'most' systems...

Reply #32 Top
Jafo the system is running 98 SE with all updates and it is suprisely stable right now.

/me knocks on wood.
Reply #33 Top

For me, 98se has been 'second-best' to XP....as even 2K kept falling over due to dodgy hardware support.....traditionally 2 or 3 BSODs per day.

If it's 'old and small' then 98se goes onto it...if it's bigger and newer it's XP.....and that's about it...

Reply #34 Top
Kona, just a thought ever decided on going to college to learn about computer maintenance?

You don't realize the amount of forums that have "help my drivers fail to install, help this help that" and its same people that keep breaking things and will not learn from their experiences.

It crack's me up seeing people still using 9x and wonder why things go tits up, when 9x makes the baby jesus cry. As you will probably know how computer repair shops make a fortune out of these people.

It might make the world a difference to advance on any skills and get to know how to troubleshoot what went wrong.

Reply #35 Top
Hmmm, thought I remember him saying he repaired computers for extra income...
Reply #36 Top
Kona, just a thought ever decided on going to college to learn about computer maintenance?


I already went to college and trained as a computer technician

Hmmm, thought I remember him saying he repaired computers for extra income...


I do. But every once in awhile I come across a problem even I need help with.
Reply #37 Top
#36 by Kona0197 - 12/20/2003 8:06:43 PM

I already went to college and trained as a computer technician


and did you get the certificates? :o

If thats the case i think this would have been a doddle to you before you made this thread
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Reply #38 Top
Ok now that the problem was solved. I need a little help my self.
My cousin bought a hard disk (WD Caviar 40 GB) about 8 months and all of the sudden it got stuck. Is there any way to get a stuck disk to run again, other than smashing it against the floor?
Reply #39 Top
Power cycle it...
Reply #40 Top
It crack's me up seeing people still using 9x and wonder why things go tits up, when 9x makes the baby jesus cry.

Me too. With MS dropping support for the entire 9x kernel family 16 Jan, people are going to be out of luck. FWIW, we (at work) have been directed to remove all 9x machines from the network by 31 Dec. Thank goodness I have my division up to XP. A division I work closely with still has over 400 systems on 9x...I'd hate to be them.

But every once in awhile I come across a problem even I need help with.

No matter how good you are or how long you've been at it (almost 25 years for me) we all run into a stumper every now and then. I still believe that computers throw obstacles in your way just to test you.


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Reply #41 Top
Voodoo_FreaK -
No matter how good you are or how long you've been at it (almost 25 years for me) we all run into a stumper every now and then. I still believe that computers throw obstacles in your way just to test you.


I believe that sums it up.



Reply #42 Top
#40 by Orion - 12/20/2003 8:18:13 PM

No matter how good you are or how long you've been at it (almost 25 years for me) we all run into a stumper every now and then. I still believe that computers throw obstacles in your way just to test you.


Yes, true but research is a good bit of knowledge than panicking as soon as the problem has arisen than completely loosing the head and expecting 100 replies in 30 seconds like you see in most forums.

How many people ever read manuals... or FAQ's or most importantly "Read Me" files.

I dont know how many times ive seen "only n00bs read manuals" :o
Reply #43 Top
Voodoo -

I spent 2 days working on this machine with only little amounts of sleep. Coming here to ask for help was a LAST DITCH effort to fix it.

I only ask for help here at WC with computers when all other avenues of help are exausted.

I love reading manuals. I read them all when I buy new hardware.
Reply #45 Top
Power cycle it...


Yrag, Im afraid I'm gonna need a 'little' more input
Reply #46 Top
sounds pretty fun....whatever it is
Reply #48 Top
My cousin bought a hard disk (WD Caviar 40 GB) about 8 months and all of the sudden it got stuck. Is there any way to get a stuck disk to run again, other than smashing it against the floor?


I had someone come to me with that problem. I tapped the spot on top where axis of disk's spin is, sometimes it works, but that guy's HD was being stuck repeatly, if you got same problem, install 2nd drive and backup whatever you wanna keep, and when it stalls, tap that spot repeatly til it spins again.

But then it may be stuck for good. Only HD drive specialists can recover that hard drive by transferring internal discs into new drive. I certainly cannot do that.

Reply #50 Top

Kona: If I had to suggest anything, it would be to remove everything but the video card, do the install, and then see if it works. If it does, then add each card/part until you find the one that it is coughing up during hardware detection. If the install on the old drive was successful, have you thought of taking the smaller drive and just moving the install to the new drive?

Have you checked the bios for anything screwy?

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The golden rules of building a machine for someone you know.

1. Before you buy parts, visit the tech support sites for every piece of hardware you plan to buy. Go through their FAQs and messageboards if they have them, and write down any conflicts or common complaints. You can revise conflicting hardware choices before you buy

2. Before you buy parts, get a feel for what kind of games/software the person is gonna run, then go to their support sites and repeat step 1. If they don't know exactly, assume the worst. Some games won't work with some flavors of hardware at all... go look at the Everquest forums =/ .

3. Once you have bought the hardware, try to use an OS that is network capable in safe mode, and then ignore the stock drivers that come with the hardware. Go to the sites, make sure there aren't new drivers, and only then install the ones that come in the box. That stuff sits around so long before it is shipped that even cutting-edge stuff has had driver revisions before it hits the shelves.

4. When you get it all running nicely, and before they start dumping their software and games on it, make a stock, plain-Jane drive image on a small, separate partition. This means that at any time when they monkey something up, you can always revert back to the stock, non-screwed state without having to repeat step 3. I can't tell you how much headache this will save. The stock install isn't usually a 1/20th of the average drive size, so the 'wasted' space is negligible.