You are a sad, sad, man hashonboat. This is just like whats happening to us Canadians. We are being boycotted by various companies simply because our gov't disagrees with the war. Disgusting is all I have to say about this topic. The sad part is, poor hashonboat was probably brainwashed by the US media, who is having everyone believe "if your not with us, your against us". Or is this really what you personally feel? If it is, I suggest you go see a shrink before you worry about another nations interests/positions.


Chris

joetheblow-I think it 'rubbed' people the wrong way because of how he stated it.

As I stated before, in his initial post it really sounded like he was downing the company for being French as oppossed to not wanting to use the program becuase he was boycouting ALL French products.

Please tell me the diffence between the two reasons because I truly do not see it in this case.

ooooookay.

I think he has the right to boycout French companies.

Just like I have the right to boycout Mississipi bus lines.


The problem here is it seems by how he has written this thread is that it is a personal attack on the company for being French as oppossed to boycouting all Frecnh product with no offense to any piticular companies.


This is why he wants something else. You can't fault him for doing that.




sooo.... basically... GREAT. He got his answer and we have gotten to the root of the thread and why it went the way it did because of the title and the initail post. Probaly diod not mean it to be that way but that is how it read.

Done.

oh the difference is that in one isntance he doesn't want to use the product because it is from France. That is like saying, "Hey this is great, to bad its a frenchy product"

What I believe he was saying is, "While this product is good, I am boycoting the Frech government and its economy so I can not buy this product."

one way is sort of 'racist' because the company is bad just because it is based in france.


the other way is about boycoting all the products from a region not because the company is bad, but because you disagree with the goverment.

now if he wanted to boycot the company because it sold nuclear weapons to Iraq then that would be a direct action, but would have nothing to do with Axialis comeing from France.

I wish I could remember my English 101 classes. This is one of those 'them'/'it' confusions I think.

Icon Workshop is the avowed best cross platform Icon design/conversion software on the market.

As Jafo stated, the programmer is NOT the government of France.

"Can anyone recommend another program with the same or better capabilities ??"

No, no one can recommend another program such as is requested because there is not one.
So one is left with either lowering the capabilities of the software and maybe using
two or more applications to come close to the functionality of Icon Workshop, or stick
with the program you've found does exactly what it is you seek, or skip the best and
dig through the rest.

I hope it was a bad joke only, really not funny

"Let's all boycot any product coming from any country that does not agree with our government!"

This thread is totally baseless.

This threat is a shame...

sigh

Does the French gov collect taxes from the maker of the software, and if so wouldn't purchasing this software in effect be supporting the French gov?

well considering the fact that our government is still dealing with the French government
and also making public statements that we are still allies. Isn't it a bit of a stretch to
react in this manner? As far as the French government collecting taxes goes, I don't know
because I am not French and do not live in France which I've also never visited. So I am
not sure how their system works. But I do not assume it is an exact reflection of our system
of IRS and taxation.I've never collated the differences between our government and the French
government, but as stated before, it is a personal choice and would not presume to attempt
changing it or to disallow it.

As the original question was asked the answer is, there is not any one program that comes
close to Iconworkshops functionality. So one either stays with the best or digs through the
rest.

anyway, as someone or actually a few have stated in this thread, this thread is sad and also
after reflection, rather funny at the same time. I'll bow out of it now and wish you luck
in your search and what ever choice you end up making.

the first time i read the title "IconWorkshop is French" i thought it´s about some April fools joke by Axialis.

bakerstreet: i actually did point him to an alternative, but still could not resist to express my amusement on his chauvinism. don´t forget the Russian government considered vetoing that UN resolution also and the money you payed for your Talisman shell is supporting those evil communists. and there wasn´t a veto needed as Chile and Mexico could not be bought anyway.

Listen, the guy has the right to boycott whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants. Whether he is right or wrong is irrelevant. Just like the French who have decided to boycott McDonalds. It's their right.
In both cases, it won't make the slightest difference whatsoever in the French or US economy, but it's irrelevant. It's meant as a symbolic gesture, not an economic one.

Having said that, IconShop is the best icon program there is. There are none that come even close. But if you are ready to sacrifice that to make a symbolic gesture to support your own personal values, then good for you.

People have a right to their own views, its no personal attack as such merely a civilised conflict in which none of us can win or lose.

My point basically is that I have immense respect for people who not only have an opinion, but actually live by their values. Even if I don't share those values or agree with those opinions.
I have no respect for people for example who complaint about Microsoft, but who keep buying the lastest version of Office or Windows whenever it comes out.

If you have an opinion, don't just talk about it, live up to it.

which i do, i don't disagree.

paxx

I really wonder what comes next... Will people demand that any german or french people have to be kicked out of here and their skins deleted ? Will You boycott Wincustomize because people of other nations that disagree with the war are here ? I know, this is worst scenario, but some people have to think about it IMHO...

Hmmm.... try iconbuilderXP. It is a plugin for Adobe photoshop 6+. Which makes it very good.....

moshi: Nice try, but that is an old screenshot. I haven't purchased a copy of Talisman since my oddly excessive consumption of French products started weighing on my mind. In the past, Arkadiy was kind enough to give me a copy to use. Right now I am using Explorer. Where to go next I haven't decided.

Whether I decide to purchase Talisman in the future is my own business, just as the decision whether to by Axalis is hashonboat's decision. I'll be mindful of your post, though, thanks.

c242: The French and Germans are boycotting US goods and restaurants. For heaven's sake the Pakistanis are debating whether to boycott US goods at a governmental level. Stop acting like it is an act of terrorism. There was a recent poll in france that stated 33% of the French population wants Iraq to win this war. There is no shortage of animosity on either side.

acting like it´s an act of terrorism? the war or the boycotting of the best icon software for Windows around? the boycotting just amuses me, terrorism does not.
time to buy a Cuban cigar now.

I see you Americans are beginning to find out just how insidious the French are. In the UK we have had all this for years. Despite being in the EEC the French continue to ban imports of some of our goods contrary to EEC rulings. They still owe billions in fines for that, which they have no intention of paying. And they wonder why we don't want to join the Euro...

If you ask the average man in the street here how he feels about the French most of the answers would contain expletives.