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Win 10: slow boot & no desktop icons on startup

Win 10: slow boot & no desktop icons on startup

Hello.
I have a problem with fences 2 and 3 on Windows 10 fresh install.
Fences are loaded 5-10-15 seconds after desktop is shown during startup.
Another problem is that icons which are on the desktop but not in fences also are not shown before fences would load.

Thank you very much for your help.

p.s. support ticket created #WCT-983-15846

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Reply #27 Top

Quoting uldisracs, reply 26

Today Fences didn't even start until I started clicking desktop like a madman.
End of uldisracs's quote

Are you sure the OS had not simply booted with Fences hidden.... which requires a double click to show?

 

With the release of Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 Microsoft changed the boot sequence to have 'addons' blocked until the rest of the process has completed...aka 'last'.

Combine that with also drawing the desktop [and icons] sooner/earlier in the process to give the impression of a faster boot, the result is typically just a perception of a slow load time judging solely on when an icon becomes visible.

Unless something went wrong with the Fences install there should be no real/actual slowing down of the full boot process...;)

Reply #28 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 27

Are you sure the OS had not simply booted with Fences hidden.... which requires a double click to show?

With the release of Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 Microsoft changed the boot sequence to have 'addons' blocked until the rest of the process has completed...aka 'last'.

Combine that with also drawing the desktop [and icons] sooner/earlier in the process to give the impression of a faster boot, the result is typically just a perception of a slow load time judging solely on when an icon becomes visible.

Unless something went wrong with the Fences install there should be no real/actual slowing down of the full boot process...;)
End of Jafo's quote

I am quite sure, since I don't even use that function and it is disabled.

I have an SSD disk and booting is quite fast. Fast boot has always been important to me, and I have set up that only few third party programs start on boot. I can start opening programs and work with the computer before fences has loaded. I suppose it could be boot sequence, since I doubt program like fences should load that long.

As mentioned above I have quite fast boot time on my system. As soon as I press that "Sign in" button on windows 10, desktop is loaded and I can start using programs. Yes, before I had an SSD, everything you say about dekstop drawing would make sense, but it is not the case anymore.

Edit: I just made a timed boot-up from a complete shutdown. Windows loads in 22 - 25 seconds. After these 22 - 25 seconds I have a fully functional system, I can open programs and work. Fences loads only after 2 minutes and 45 seconds. And double clicking didn't help, since I have that option disabled, but just in case, I periodically tried double clicking between 25 seconds after windows had loaded and 2 minutes and 45 seconds when fences had loaded.

Reply #29 Top

Quoting uldisracs, reply 28


Quoting Jafo,

Are you sure the OS had not simply booted with Fences hidden.... which requires a double click to show?

With the release of Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 Microsoft changed the boot sequence to have 'addons' blocked until the rest of the process has completed...aka 'last'.

Combine that with also drawing the desktop [and icons] sooner/earlier in the process to give the impression of a faster boot, the result is typically just a perception of a slow load time judging solely on when an icon becomes visible.

Unless something went wrong with the Fences install there should be no real/actual slowing down of the full boot process...;)



I am quite sure, since I don't even use that function and it is disabled.

I have an SSD disk and booting is quite fast. Fast boot has always been important to me, and I have set up that only few third party programs start on boot. I can start opening programs and work with the computer before fences has loaded. I suppose it could be boot sequence, since I doubt program like fences should load that long.

As mentioned above I have quite fast boot time on my system. As soon as I press that "Sign in" button on windows 10, desktop is loaded and I can start using programs. Yes, before I had an SSD, everything you say about dekstop drawing would make sense, but it is not the case anymore.

Edit: I just made a timed boot-up from a complete shutdown. Windows loads in 22 - 25 seconds. After these 22 - 25 seconds I have a fully functional system, I can open programs and work. Fences loads only after 2 minutes and 45 seconds. And double clicking didn't help, since I have that option disabled, but just in case, I periodically tried double clicking between 25 seconds after windows had loaded and 2 minutes and 45 seconds when fences had loaded.

End of uldisracs's quote

I have no extraneous folders/links/other drives as icons in my Fences...and full boot is actually between 30 and 60 second [it varies...and is also very infrequent....mqaybe a dozen times a year at most] and put mildly it's a high-end machine [normal SSDs are slow].

Typically when you see normal desktop icons appear with Fences...that's actually the end of the boot.

What MS did was a slight of hand giving the impression the boot was complete because they drew the desktop before it finished.

Good old drive lights are a better indicator than MS faking it to make you feel good.

Off-OS Drive links would be my bet for longer than normal boot times....waiting for Green drives to power up.

It's not about how long it takes to draw...but when Microsoft lets it be drawn.

Reply #30 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 29


I have no extraneous folders/links/other drives as icons in my Fences...and full boot is actually between 30 and 60 second [it varies...and is also very infrequent....mqaybe a dozen times a year at most] and put mildly it's a high-end machine [normal SSDs are slow].

Typically when you see normal desktop icons appear with Fences...that's actually the end of the boot.

What MS did was a slight of hand giving the impression the boot was complete because they drew the desktop before it finished.

Good old drive lights are a better indicator than MS faking it to make you feel good.

Off-OS Drive links would be my bet for longer than normal boot times....waiting for Green drives to power up.

It's not about how long it takes to draw...but when Microsoft lets it be drawn.
End of Jafo's quote

I don't have the "highest" end system, but I seriously doubt that it would take almost 3 minutes for my system to boot. AS I have stated above, after 30 seconds I have a fully working system.

I also have a laptop and it's boot times are noticeably slower than my main PC. Even after icons are loaded it takes some time to open just Firefox for example.

And judging by the comments in this thread, I am not the only one with this problem.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting uldisracs, reply 28

Edit: I just made a timed boot-up from a complete shutdown. Windows loads in 22 - 25 seconds. After these 22 - 25 seconds I have a fully functional system, I can open programs and work. Fences loads only after 2 minutes and 45 seconds. And double clicking didn't help, since I have that option disabled, but just in case, I periodically tried double clicking between 25 seconds after windows had loaded and 2 minutes and 45 seconds when fences had loaded. 

End of uldisracs's quote

 SAME PROBLEM!

With fences uninstalled the desktop icons show up immediately after startup (~25 sec).

System worked fine with 2.13.

Troubles startet with update to 3.04. 

Tried un/reinstall. No change.

Reply #32 Top

I have latest version (paid version) - and Win 10. When I boot up and log in, I can let it sit for 10 minutes and all I see is a blank desktop.

The second I hit WINDOWS-E (Shortcut to open explorer) - Fences appears immediately. This is consistent and happens every time.

 

Hope this helps the developers locate the trouble.

Thanks!

Reply #33 Top

Quoting david738, reply 32

I have latest version (paid version) - and Win 10. When I boot up and log in, I can let it sit for 10 minutes and all I see is a blank desktop.

The second I hit WINDOWS-E (Shortcut to open explorer) - Fences appears immediately. This is consistent and happens every time.

 

Hope this helps the developers locate the trouble.

Thanks!
End of david738's quote

Same here!

After boot I have the empty desktop, I press WINDOWS-E  and voila Fences appears immediately.

Thanks for the tip david728!

Reply #34 Top

Same issue at my desktop (Win 10, newest Fences 3.x). Fences doesn't load untill any explorer action. Right mouse button onto the desktop works too.

It's a workaround but not a solution...

Reply #35 Top

If you have not notified support, please do so.

This does not happen with most users (but is really irritating to those it does affect) and the more data we have the more likely we will be able to find the commonalities and address them.

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