Wise, I prefer to think of it as resourceful.

I'll buy that. I looked to verify my thought, tomake sure I'd guessed right But I was new and didn't know that you could do that for about 3 months after I'd been here. How you doing?

Doing fine this morning Wise. Love weekends. Love forgetting about work for a couple of days. Gives me time to do more things around the house. Believe it or not, I like fixing things up around the house. Kind of a mini Bob Villa.

How 'bout yourself?

Yea but Bob Villa just talked. He had his crew do the work. Been on vacation for the week. Didn't go anywhere, just let the body heal.

Healing from what? What happened?

Oh yeah!, and your right about Bob Villa, he was really just a host, not a doer. I guess I could compare myself to Norm Abrams, but then he is more of a Carpenter then a 'do-it-yourselfer'

I watch his show. I like how they transformed old houses in newer ones. I'am a walking mailman. At 55 it takes it's tool. Hip, back, shoulder(from the heavy bag) and feet. They take a beating.

Ooooouch. Sorry to hear that. I know it can drive you up the wall sometimes, dealing with the pain.

I've been a press operator for 22 years. 22 years of lifting 50 pound reams of paper in and out of presses. 22 years of bending at the knees to lift. They told us that it saves your back, but they neglected to tell us it blows out the knees. All the joints are starting to break down. I'm no stranger to the aching hips and legs and feet. Sometimes, even my back. I'm already at the maximum dosage of Advil for each day. Couple more years and I'll have to seriously consider giving it up for a desk job. A lot less money, but a lot less stress on the body.

I feel for you Wise. I know how much the pain can drive one temporarily crazy.

I Know exactly what your going thru. Same pains that I have I used Advil at 4 times the dose. Then Vioxx and now I'am on Celebrex. That one seems to help the back and hip. If you have Med. Insurance you might try Celebrex. It's for arthritis. 20 years in the Army and ten at the post office is taking it's toll. 2 more years and I can take an early retirement, which I will.

Oh man, sounds like you know all the good pain killers. For my arthritis (mainly in my fingers and elbows) I take Entrophen. Works ok for now, but I know eventually I'll need something stronger.

I wish I could take an early retirement. Our Armed Forces allows for retirement at 50 with full pension. (and it's a very good pension) Unfortunately, I never was in the Army. So, with my present job, I'm gonna have to wait until I'm at least 60.

this is a great thread! read about some GREAT old music -- /me croons over andy willians -- and learned a little about some of you and your talents! sounds like we have some very talented folks out there, in areas other than skinning -- very cool and wise, i cannot imagine doing the walking that you do -- it would kill me! i'm a full-time paralegal, so the only exercise i get is yelling at my boss -- lol. anyway, i enjoyed this thread

Our services it's 50% at 20 yrs and 75% at 30 yrs. Cannot live on it but with the P.O. early retirement check I'll be able to manage until I get to 62. Then I can get early social security. Then everything will be fine. I just want to retire with most of my body parts still working.(if not all)

LadyWolf, that goes to the original question that started this thread. What does Wise create? He creates an atmosphere in which pleasent and intelligent conversations can take place. He is always ready to discuss anything, and probably more important, he is always ready to listen to everyone's point of view. Believe me, that is a great gift in itself.

It's alway a race against time, isn't it Wise. Trying to get to that comfortable level in one's life, before there is no longer enough time left to enjoy it.

Gotta go for a while. I'm ripping up bathroom tiles today. Putting in new tub/shower and then retiling. Hopefully I'll be done by the end of the weekend. (not much chance of that.)

LadyWolf- The wife was a legal sec. for 20+ years. Love Andy Williams. Have a few of his greatest hit CD's. Motion- I don't know what to say. I try to be helpful.Only a high school grad. but have been all over the world and seen a lot so I try to impart some of that knowledge to who ever wants it.

Motion- good luck on your remodeling.

Wise - motion and yourself were talking about aches and pains...Well i have bad ankles. I work in a warehouse, shipping, recieving, forklift, inventory, pulling orders, that kind of stuff. Three years ago i got a nasty sprain on my right ankle. Instead of taking the four to six weeks to let it heal, i clenched my teeth and went back to work after three days. I guess using my left foot to carry the load (i'm a big boy for my size) has made that one bad too. The hardest days for me are monday and tuesday because taking the weekend off only makes it worse when i go back to work.

If it were possible to go back in time to change things, this would be the only thing i would change in my life. I have made some poor choices in life, but this is the one i wish i could have back.

im a youngin so im just siting here listining taking it in i feel enlightened

wise, since your wife as a legal secretary for that long, she surely knows what i mean about yelling at the attorneys -- haha. i think you contribute A LOT to this site and always appreciate your comments motion, good luck on the remodel -- ack. elvee, i think we've all made poor choices in our lives ... i hope the aches and pains get better for you. and to all the young 'uns out there -- i'm so glad you're all here ... nice to get a wide range of perspectives

elvee-Those painfel hurts that you get when your younger and heal up do not go away. Later in life they will all comeback to haunt you. You will feel them all. So try not to mess anything up. SuPeRHErO- listen and learn, by the way nice logon, looks good on my puter. Thank YOu LadyWolf. Yes I know all about yelling at attorneys. Also how they bilk clients. Wife had to make copies of files(when none yere needed) just so they could charge them again.

elvee elvee elvee- You should have asked the WideOldMan that question.

Uh Can't even spell my own nick.

Well i got married back in 90' well i sort of jumped into it. It was a disaster Divorce was final in 2000.

My first one lasted 16+yrs. This one is 14+.

I am NOT going to say anything about a freudian slip!

Fishie lived the night! Only I put her hospital tank by my bed and she splashed water in my face all night.... back to the big tank today for sure!

She still isn't swimming too straight.