Is Demigod dead?

Hateforest, join the demigod-au channel in irc, lashiec and a few others are trying to organise games from there. I think this will work better than friends lists if we can get enough people to join the channel when they want an AUS/NZ game.

Also modding is coming, you can already mod things, just some aspects are closed off due to some format restrictions.

Well... For starters they have already stated theyre going to work on Pantheon, clan functionality IS coming, I believe the replay system is coming also, as is mod support...

You've basically summed up the same complaints that have been said before, and have already been addressed by SD here on these forums, and added nothing new.

No the game isn't dead, and everything you mentioned is on its way.  You may consider the game unfinished, but I think what they have done to date is of high quality, and had a lot of effort bringing up to standard the parts that have faltered.  So long as these features are introduced in a timely manner theres no reason to believe the community wont pick up pace.

hey hateforest,

the australian community in this game imo is dead. at peak hour i only have 2 people on my friends list online MAX. and it takes 30mins to get a game going.

then again, i havent seen a marketing campaign in australia. noone here knows about it. what a shame

No news for a while... GPG seem to have distanced themselves from this game (and star dock) and it would seem that all of their focus is on SC2. Stardock seem busy with their new game too... where does this leave DG?

As Frogboy has already pointed out, the immense amount of contact between the Publishers - that's Stardock - and the community was mostly due to the major problems the game had upon release. The idea was to keep the community informed as best as possible while the issues were solved. Now that the connection issues are resolved - with just the automated match making system needing work - the amount of contact needed to keep the community informed is less. Gas Powered Games and Stardock are no more distancing themselves from Demigod than Valve distances itself from Left 4 Dead 2.

I've already noticed that the number of players online is dropping a lot and find it impossible to get into a game most nights, due to lack of others online. Of the 60+ people in my friends list there's no more than 1 or 2 online these days..

When do you play? Keep in mind your prime time is different from everyone elses as the community for Demigod is very international. I haven't seen any more or less players online in the last 7 days and it takes less than 5 minutes to get a game going.

Is DG just going to be written off as a failure? With the game only half complete upon release and no mention of updates to meet the basic requirements, it's looking like DG was maybe written off before it's rushed release and they may have just tried to quickly shove it out the door and try to recoup some costs on retail sales.
I mean seriously how can this game last much longer without:

No competitive gameplay features.
The broken ladder.
Lack of clan functionality, that's been promised all along. 
No replay system, how the hell is this not in the game.
No ability for the community to modify the game.

Everything you've mentioned - everything - has already been addressed and is currently being worked on. These have been mentioned in several of Frogboy's journals - perhaps you need to head over there and read them before saying there's been no mention of these updates. And you assessment of the release situation is rather ignorant of all the available information. Making baseless and generalised statements doesn't become you.

People wonder why no one is going to knock Blizzard off their throne, because other devs put out half-finished games and wonder why people don't want to play them.

What throne is Blizzard supposed to be sitting on exactly?

Stacked, I encourage you to get in the irc channel during the evening, there are a lot of games played 7pm - 11pm each night, the more people we get in channel the better chance we can coordinate when we play. I think lash got a 5v5 going last night too, which is pretty cool.

If you consider having 3.2k online at one time "dead" then yes, Demigod is very dead

it's a shame that u cant find games to play at night,only if u have friends and u talk to them...the community is going down,players are leaving,and who are still playing are wainting for the next games,and then demigod will be forgot if it will be not fixed,adding the replay system,and them most important chat with friends on the game list,that sucks,why dont we have a simple chat with friends like other games?i need to use other programs like xfire or ventrilo to play demigod,why demigod doesent have voice suport?because it doesent have at least chat with friends!so it`s realy half made...it will never be fixed!too bad,because i like the gameplay very much and im sad when i think aboud demigod in 2 months like a dead game,with 100 users online/day...when it should be 1000+/day....

There is alot of publishers rushing games out the door before they are done to make a quick buck, Stormrise comes to mind, must be the new trend.

Hmm.. IMO most of the players that started playing this game have already left. Around 80% of my friends list (which is useless anyway, but I've checked via pantheon) haven't played the game for 3weeks+, leading me to believe that they have left the game. 80% of my list !!!

I find it utterly pathetic that a game that supposedly "sold well" can't have at least 20+ custom games up at any given moment. Is this due to pantheon/skirmishes? I have no idea. But the fact that the players that I liked playing with (some from my own country) have given up since 3+ weeks ago makes me think that this game is going down, fast.

Frogboy said at the beginning of the month that the impulse friends system is going over a major overhaul this month (it is almost the end of june, I doubt we will be seeing it anytime soon).

GPG... well... who the hell are they? No comments, nothing. I don't buy that cr*p about "they are too busy to post on the forums". If it was important to them, they would've done it. 'nuff said.

So... no friends system as of yet (can't even message anyone - pathetic). No new content. So unless a miracle happens and new content is released plus coupons for like 75% off, I dont see this community getting bigger.

DG is no where near dead. It has an active community, active forums, and active multiplayer games. There are times where there are less players on, but others where there are tons of players and games going on. Be aware as well that just because there aren't many games already created, doesn't mean that there aren't a bunch of games in progress. And as soon as they are finished, the games list will fill up again.

You must of just joined the forums without reading a single topic anywhere else. If you haven't noticed Frogboy(Stardock) posts updates all the time, anywhere from everyday to every few days.

HateForest, you are bad and wrong. Now go to your corner.

As I posted in a different thread, the players who stick around for the new content are not going to make up the majoirty of the community. Every community has these players - they flock back for a week once the new content is released, till they've used it up, and then they leave again. Tailoring to these players originated with the Western MMO scene, where players would need to pay for a months subscription fee to come back and see the newly added content.

The community is currently getting it's base - the players who stick around because they enjoy playing the game regardless of the release of new content.

Good points from all here, (except regabond. fuck you too buddy) I guess that the 'negative' people understand where I'm coming from and the 'positive' people didn't quite understand what I was saying. I do know that Frogboy (kudo's for his communicatino and not just blind sighting the community) has been telling us a lot about stuff coming (though he seems to be getting doubtful of late), my point wasn't that these things aren't coming. It's that they are basic features taht shoudl have been in-game from day 1. Because they were not the game has suffered from mass losses of players and people unwilling to try and get their friends involved.

This has nothing to do with future content. A functional ladder/rank system, clan features etc. are not 'content' they're a basic feature to keep a competitive game functional.

Woppin, I commend you and the other guys efforts but 1 month ago I didn't have to screw around with irc to just get a game going, I jumped on at 7:00pm Aust time and there was usually a game waitign for me to join, if not I'd host one then 5 mins later we were happily hacking away at each other (and dealing with disconnects, crashes and leavers due to new players not being catered to).

I have this weekend gone been able to play 1 game... (ass handed to me by benderb lol) and the rest of the time I either sat in the lobby with 1 person or there was just nothing...

Please keep in mind taht I'm posting here from my experience, yours may be different qhich is cool and why I started this thread, to see if it was just me or if everyone else was havign a gay old time. Posts like regabonds are not welcome, take your troll bait elsewhere.

I love this game, but cannot play it. I cannot play it because there are no players (maybe in my timezone), there are no players because they all left (once again only 2 or 3 out of 60 on my friends list are ever online now) and didn't bring mates along, they all left because this game has inherent flaws to its basic design (no I'm not taking about content i.e. extra DGs etc.), this game is flawed because it was released too early.

DG reminds me a lot of Tabula Rasa actually. A game I loved but was doomed from the start because it was released unfinished and then the followon support was poor due to poor sales. These conditions are cyclic.

/rant

I wish the pantheon/skirmish online games were more visible.  We don't really know how many people are currently playing, or how long it may take for a game.  Perhaps if the Pantheon games were visisble in a list similar to the custom games list, with ratings shown on the screen so people can find players in the same bracket as themselves, and/or choose to take on someone harder/significantly worse if theres nothing else around (subject to both parties agreeing).

Getting the communities together from all types of online gameplay may do a lot for the mentality of the community, and prevent the ghost town feeling that it custom games can sometimes portray.

HateForest, 1 month ago we used to spend 30 minutes screwing around with connections, only for the NAT to die and have to start over again, but you're right, the current situation is possibly worse for getting AU/NZ games. I only recommend the irc channel idea because there's the in game client we can use.

Very very well written.  I really like this game, it is just feels like they have abandon it.  Unfortunately I don't see many new people joining up unless control is given to the players to create maps and new content.  This way, if people change the game enough to where new things are happening it might come back.

I do think Demigod is having a bad time down here in OZ. I have only seen two copies at EB games for well over a month and thats at the two shops we have. All the gamers i know don't want to buy it, with pantheon and ranking system not working who can blame them. A lot of Internet players go on word of mouth and once someone gets a bad experience they let all their buddys know.

At the moment I only have a game now and then. I usually look if there are any Aust games going and if not i usually just go and play something else. I have better things to do than to wait for games.

In the long term I do think more people will get on board. Frogboy is well aware of the problems the game faces and is working hard on it. Stardock will make a great game even better in time and no doubt this will grow the OZ community.

Demigod is far from dead, it just taking a slow time to get going.

Didn't froggy make a post last week?

How come people are saying connection problems are fixed, even with a direct connection to the net no router no software fire no nothing I cannot connect. This is the only game I've ever had such problems with, I've made multiple posts in Connectivty Problems, Tech Problem, Frogboys thread etc etc and nothing, no help at all. Worse 100 NZD I ever spent.

The server stats are a pretty good indicator:

http://www.demigodthegame.com/opengames.aspx

It's a great way to see if your fellow countrymen are already (still) awake and how your chances are to get into a game (custom mostly).

BTW, is it possible to play EU-Aussie games or is the ping too high. A friend of mine lives in Australia and our ping is usually about 400ms. I know about the netlag workaround but would it be possible to play without it only with slight lag?

The only thing I can think of in such sitatuation is that your ISP blocked certain ports :/

i think maxxy's arguement is very true  the sold well bit is true it did sell well  just because it sold well sdoesn't mean it is being played loads off people proberly bought it played for a few weeks then put it in there self

i have only seen like 2 GPG dudes post on here  and they weren't anything important

cononel i had a game with aussies some times  and im in the uk  i dont get any lag niether do they because  they are all in auss and i am the only one far away

it is also the same with my fried mark he played with me and some eu players  0 lag   it all depends on your internet and comp  if you have good upload and download speeds then it will be fine

demizam ill make a surrgestion to u put your firewall  your router and everything back on then try  see the difference  and compare then  run a virus scan to find out what crap you got hacking your comp from u putting your firewall off

and to awnser the original post demigod is pretty dead  frogboys statistics  arn't fully correct they players joining maybe be increasing slightly but  the players leaving is too  and  i have pretty much stoped playing i only ever start it up when my anime/movie is buffering  or if i am downloading something

Ah, an elaborate troll thread and many people are replying... can it get any worse?

I only play single player, do I count?

spooky i have never even see u play

But I do play...