Object Dock update

Hey there

on several posts and even some mails form support I find references to a planed update of OD+ - any ETA for that??

Ruben
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No there is no full ETA. Currently the main Developer is working on a very large project with OD+ update as well. There is also a debate going on into what will be going into 1.9whatever and 2.0.

I am very sorry to tell you that it's still ASAP.
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uffa, I need of the fixes (:-)) Well,if you need betatester-here I am

Ruben
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Well through Plus we will put out the beta on Stardock Central. If you check SDC you will get it the moment it launches. Sorry I can't be more specific at this time.
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No there is no full ETA. Currently the main Developer is working on a very large project with OD+ update as well. There is also a debate going on into what will be going into 1.9whatever and 2.0.I am very sorry to tell you that it's still ASAP.
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I wonder if that main dev is Jeff B to whom my reports of crashes have been emailed for many a week?

I just hope that OD+ won't descend into the ranks of Duke Nukem Forever. Good start though, what Seabass seems to be saying is along the lines of "It's done when it's done"

If I'm not mistaken then Stardock releases major updates to OD every 6 months of so, so they are already behind schedule. OD has been in the "Coming Soon" section of Stardock's website an awfully long time :(
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My apologies for the wait. While we don't like making people wait we are working on many, many new projects. I can say, for one, things are going at a feavor pitch around here. Please be aware that ODP is not even slightly forgotten in all of these updates and new releases.
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My apologies for the wait. While we don't like making people wait we are working on many, many new projects. I can say, for one, things are going at a feavor pitch around here. Please be aware that ODP is not even slightly forgotten in all of these updates and new releases.
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If I remember right then it's soon to be 3 months since the latest beta. I was kind of hoping that it would be a continuous process. You know, we report bugs, you fix them and update the beta so we can test them again and so on. Is it not possible to keep things flowing?
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Guys, please take it seriously. My SD Central is telling me that last time my OD+ was updated on 5th of October 2007 (version 1.90i[b].020). That's almost FIVE(!) months ago. There is not a piece of software on my machine that hasn't been updated in that period of time apart from OD. That's really bad. And we are talking about a beta, not a stable release. The current beta version of OD has many bugs that need fixing (that's why it's called a beta) but the clock keeps ticking but all we are getting is "yes, it's being worked on" or "we apologize for the wait" or something like that. Yes, you might be hard at work and fixing them but we don't see the results and that's equivalent to people perceiving that nothing is actually happening. It seems to be all talk and no walk, so to speak. I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job but is it not better to offer incremental updates and continuously receive feedback about improvements and incorporate them accordingly?

Please don't make me start a Facebook group about this or something. I've had great experiences with Stardock products so far but this "standstill" is really increasing the size of a purple patch. Please provide us with more information so people know what's going on!

Thank you very much in advance :)
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Please don't make me start a Facebook group about this or something. I've had great experiences with Stardock products so far but this "standstill" is really increasing the size of a purple patch. Please provide us with more information so people know what's going on!
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Know what I love? "Don't make me do something be cause I am unhappy". If you were really that happy why didn't you start something positive then? This is dragging on for a while but the gripeing is a vast level of hypocritical nonsense. Fact is people seem to only really use forums to kick and scream. Second Fact is that Stardock hasn't let me down yet. I have no current issues with the software save for a few bugs that are easy to deal with. I also do not pay a subscription for this.

Know what? I am gonna go create something to promote this software that I love. I should follow my own rules right?

Don't debate me as I won't post on this thread again. I just wanted to get that off my chest.
Reply #9 Top
Clearly you didn't see the build number of OD+ that I've mentioned. See that "[b]" bit? It means beta. I was so happy with the product that it occurred to me "Why not be a beta tester to make it even better?". That's something positive, won't you say? I'm never hypocritical. I always say how I feel. Fact is that forums are places where people can express their views about products and negotiate with people about problems they might be having. What also makes us different is that I did pay for my OD+. Betas are meant to have possible bugs, but they are also meant to be sorted out.
Reply #10 Top
Some times fixes and patches take time depending on the amount of extras and fixes they are including. Not to mention they may have other hotter fires burning, that need tending to first.

I realize patience is no longer a virtue in the world, but please try to remember OD is not really broken, so the "rush factor" may not be as critical to the devs at the moment, as it is to you ;)

IMO the little nuances OD has are minimal and livable till they get the next killer release out :)

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Some times fixes and patches take time depending on the amount of extras and fixes they are including. Not to mention they may have other hotter fires burning, that need tending to first. I realize patience is no longer a virtue in the world, but please try to remember OD is not really broken, so the "rush factor" may not be as critical to the devs at the moment, as it is to you IMO the little nuances OD has are minimal and livable till they get the next killer release out
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Sure, I get it. But is it not better to do incremental improvements where they fix something, release a new beta for people to see if they did it right and while people are testing they can work on fixing something else, then release another beta update with fix(es)? It's a continuous process where both parties work simultaneously towards improving the product.

They may have hotter fires that are burning, but if those fires have nothing to do with OD(+) then I don't see how its development should be affected.

I'm not talking about the "rush factor". I never advocate rushing things but I am in favour of updating things at regular intervals. While OD may not be broken, it doesn't mean there are no problems with it (especially the beta).

You haven't stated which build of OD you are using so for all I know it could be a stable release, hence lack of problems. The problem is that initially I was informed that a beta update was going to be released in January but that never came and now it's March. Last beta update was almost 6 months ago, a period of time for which a major release is more appropriate.

The worst-case scenario would be for Stardock to come out with a 2.0 major release without issuing any more betas for current OD+ subscribers and asking to people to pay to upgrade to see if the problems they were having have been fixed or not. I hope it won't happen.
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I run the most recent Beta. It works well for my needs. Typically when SD takes a extra bit of time get the newest release or beta out, it's usually for a good reason.  Lets not also forget, they are working on it with a new platform, so the bits will take a bit longer as folks get used to trying to work within the new OS's capabilities/limitations. Especially if it is fighting the devs the whole way.

I will say ive heard rumor that OD1,91k[a].024, has been seen for download in Impulse. ;)  https://forums.wincustomize.com/304605


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I run the most recent Beta. It works well for my needs. Typically when SD takes a extra bit of time get the newest release or beta out, it's usually for a good reason.  Lets not also forget, they are working on it with a new platform, so the bits will take a bit longer as folks get used to trying to work within the new OS's capabilities/limitations. Especially if it is fighting the devs the whole way.I will say ive heard rumor that OD1,91k[a].024, has been seen for download in Impulse.   https://forums.wincustomize.com/304605
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Sure, I too run the the latest beta. Does it work well for my needs? Yes, it does. However, that's not the point because software development and improvement is a constant process. I've pointed out some quite substantial bugs in it. I'm more than willing to test out the fixes if SD is willing to provide them. That's what beta testing is all about.

They may be working on a new platform, but it's already been certified as Vista-ready, so what's the deal?

If Impulse is a replacement for SD Central ( I get that impression) then why can't that beta be added to SD Central?

All in all, if some bugs are fixed then give us a beta and, while we work with it, you can fix other bugs. We gotta have some more betas before a main release, be it 1.95 or 2.00
Reply #15 Top
Ruben..Just talked with Jeff Bargmann and he's going to shit can the whole ObjectDock thing for some kind of desktop icon grouping thing. Personally I think he's nutz...but so are you if you believe a word of this. :LOL:

Reply #16 Top
iVan....take a deep breath...SD doesn't revolve around you. They have a lot going on, and they will get it out ASAP. I can't see what "major" bugs you have with OD. I run every program (literally) out of it and have had no real issues. How bad can it be?
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man i wish people would quit whining and just have some patience..."THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE WORTH WAITING FOR"
Reply #18 Top
Jeezus....what "substantial" bugs are there in ODP? I've been using it and making backgrounds for it for years and its one of the most stable apps I use.

What are these "substantial" bugs? The only ones I've seen have to do with docklets once in awhile.

Maybe you need to take a walk outside and clear your head...its not the end of the world here. ;)
Reply #19 Top
I've got 0 complaints..........

Object Dock Plus has been the best bang for the buck of all my XP software.......
I purchased it Nov. 16, 2004 and for 3 years and 4 months it's been continually updated and supported for a measley $20. Thanks to Jeff & Stardock :)

We gotta have some more betas before a main release, be it 1.95 or 2.00
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1.9 should've been version 2 considering the new features added. Personally, I'm ready to pony up another $20
Reply #20 Top
@webgizmos
Hey there

could you please read the whole post. Even Support is admitting to the need of some important changes, thats why I asked in the first place, and why I will ask any time I like.

So please - YOU STOP whining or insulting or whatever you feel called to and just SHUT UP if you have nothing to say to the topic of the post.

Got me drift, right!

Ruben
Reply #21 Top
sigh.

Heck, I even forgot it was beta. It works that well.
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So please - YOU STOP whining or insulting or whatever you feel called to and just SHUT UP if you have nothing to say to the topic of the post.
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Whinning?

Ruben....I don't recall stating that "you" were whinning OR that you couldn't ask any questions whatsoever OR that you should shut up....so check your attitude at the door and lighten up bud. Nothing I said was intended as an insult to you in any way, shape or form.

Got MY drift! :(
Reply #23 Top
Let's not start attacking folks and violating terms of service.  ;)

What may be a little bug for one user can be a very big deal for another.  And for some users, even if the bug doesn't affect them too much they want what they bought to work 100%.  I think that's their right to expect and get that. 

But  . . . it can take time to fix bugs.    No one here is saying it doesn't.  Some folks are just asking for an update.  That's cool too, right? :CONGRAT:
Reply #24 Top
My first post was meant as a joke!

I was in "fact" talking with Jeff Bargmann (the Developer) this morning about possible additions to ODP and if you actually READ the post you can see it was meant as a joke.

Nowhere I did I mention anything whatsoever about anyone not be allowed to ask a question nor did I insult anyone. And post #18 was not directed at you Ruben! Is your name in there?

I'm done with this thread! :(
Reply #25 Top
@webgizmos
Good for us (:-))

Ruben