Well you certainly seemed to have opened a can of worms, kitty ... good for you!   

I participated in the latest Halloween community skin put together by AVman (kudos to you!) and, as kitty points out, it was announced in the forums and solicited any and all to volunteer.

A few years back I participated in another skin suite put together by select members of Skinartistry. It wasn't announced in the WC forums or the SA forums for that matter as I recall. The 'recruiting', if it can even be called that, consisted of a few skinners communicating by MSN or email deciding to get together and create a suite.


Both were 'community' skins in the sense of being created by members of the skinning community and being free to all.


I don't agree that 'for a fee' skins should qualify as what most people think of as a community skin, but free certainly should qualify regardless of their genesis.

A community suite is one made by various community members.  It is not one that "everyone" was invited to participate in.  If several community members band together to make a suite, no matter how they get together, it is a community suite.

No, why do u care how (conveniently) 2 Maxstyles skins are labelled? What difference does it make? It doesnt affect you in ANY way.

John if I want to ask a question about community skins, what is wrong with that?

From THE Big Cheese. You have your answer in laymens terms from someone with authority to give it to you. Resolved.

and lastly.. you asked.. while dragging Maxstyles through as much mud as you could while making out like were secretly banding together to screw everyone over.

Not so.

Good press / bad press = same press.

Are you guys sure this isn't some elaborate scheme to promote Maxstyles?
(insert paranoid smily here)   

Kitty.....

Rather than 'just' me explaining things in layman's terms....Karma has done so....#52

My 'role' here on Wincustomize.com is called 'Community Manager'  [sounds spiffy....hours are horrid].. so maybe I'm the one to 'define' "community skin".

Community Skin n. A group of skins [or suite] created by no less than TWO individual skinners intended to be a 'set' in appearance and style, sharing origins/images.

Note....there is no reference to 'free' or 'fee' or public pre-notification/tendering.

Dynamics/logistics/practicality will typically DEMAND that were a proposed Community Skin to be as diverse/huge as the original ones years ago there really would NEED to be a public advertising for skinners to enlist their services....but with 'smaller' suites that's not always going to be needed.

Jafo hopes this helps ....

Are you guys sure this isn't some elaborate scheme to promote Maxstyles?
(insert paranoid smily here)    [/quote]
Bwhahahaha    Don't forget.. its invite only.  

Thankyou Karma girl

I'm interested NT, How was credit shared?   

So you keep saying..

Case closed.

Repeat after me  "thou shalt not mix metaphors" ....

Jafo wonders what the wasps were doing in the worm can ....

Looking for the secret Maxstyles meeting.

Jafo must have missed the (AND)     

what is the proper tool one uses to skin a worm?

Well one thing's for certain this post was never about me. Although there was definately some community involvement, I hope you two will agree that you sometimes disagree, and give one another the benefit at least of good intentions, even though complete agreement cannot be reached right now. Hopefully, noone will mind my little intrusion. Hi Kitty. Hi John. Take two long deep slow breaths and say ahhh. Later.  

you know what i think,, hahah i think masters should be more specific about their terminology on this site (ie.. my take on what Vstyler and a few others believe is that "Community" means a "SELECT FEW OF THE COMMUNITY" when deciphered by a selfish person!)
and its not even a matter of being selfish its common sense really.
when i hear the word community, it makes me think about ALL the people around me. so it should be the same when in referrance to making a COMMUNITY skin. it just seems to me that some people are afraid of putting skins in other peoples hands because they might screw it up and stuff

also you shouldnt use the word community if its not gonna involve the whole community because a "community" is a "whole" not a "some" if its only for choice skinners than say "we will be selecting a few out of all requests" OR make it so that invitations can be sent to people you want to have skin on the project
KITTY, YOU ROCK  !

I personally think that Harmony was a community skin, but didn't have the correct "forum advertising" to get the word out, where more skins for programs could have been made for it.

All community skins should have a large effort to get as many as possible working together to make a nice, massive suite.

thx purrball for clarifying with me!  

Awww...this all happened while I am asleep hmmm case closed already?.

As a side note... If you have time to browse thru my WhireFire2 WB comments sections you will realize that on Post #52 Mr. PuterDudeJim asked my permission right there and then to upload his DXTheme. There was no discussion between us prior to that post. I believe he made the DXTheme out of his own afford and out of love for skinning and sharing with the community. So where does that say we pre-select anybody to produce any part of the community skin. And I never ask anybody from WC to label my whitefire2 WB little suite to become community suite.

What did I do wrong here? From what I see here I am labeled "one of the bad guy" just because I upload my work here to share with everyone? And anybody who doing the awesome part in support of my work are also consider a bad contributer of some soft of evil skim ?

If that so...then where will that lead us?

im not talking about you basj.... i was referrancing on the stuff said above about the word community i definitley see two sides of this!

i see people who need clarification to the teeth and people who are not so clear as to what they mean... hence we have issues about the terminology of Community

people like to corrupt other peoples minds on this site is what ive learned, imean C'mon,, community means a select few?? since when? you all are masters and say stuff like that?? wow im glad im not related to anyone here

id feel embarrased quite frankly. sound like you all need a few drinks and some away time from the comp!

I am not responding to you sublime20, I am just responding to this tread and from my understanind.. maybe I misunderstand it...

I'm just curious here, but, if each single component of a blind were made by a different member, how many members could be involved? Isn't there still a limit there? I mean even if it were done that way there would still be a limit which means someone is going to get left out....am I right here or am I missing something? RAD

Tell me again . . why this needed definition so urgently?

Much ado about nothing.    

What are you talking about? Have you read the entire thread? Pease dont stir this up again. Both basj and I have been raked through enough crap to fuel a shitstorm today... for NO reason.

Let it die. The answers have been written in stone by admin.