Terrans discover class 18 planet

Unfortunately, it requires Heavy Gravity Colonisation tech

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6589157.stm
I thought this was pretty neat. Apparently there's a planet called Gliese 581, which has just recently been discovered, that is in the right orbit around its star to give it near-earth temperatures. While it's still a long way from being declared 'habitable', it seems to be the best candidate for alien life since Mars was discovered to be a barren wasteland.

The gravity is just under 3 times that of Earth, which is survivable if not exactly comfortable, and it is 'only' 20.5 light years away, which while hardly a small distance isn't too bad on galactic scales. OK, so it's a bit early to be booking your next holiday there, but I still reckon it's the most interesting thing to come up in astronomy for quite a while.
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If I remember correctly, it may have to be classified as "Aquatic" though.
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High gravity + living under water = crunch!
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Interesting news. I'm always interested it in things like this. Thanks for the heads up.
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The gravity is just under 3 times that of Earth


Nope, the gravity would depend more on the rotation speed than the planet sieze. It is quite possible to live on a planet 5 times the seize of Earth and have half the gravity!

High gravity + living under water = crunch!


Nope, ever heard of pressurization? You can use pressurization to eliminate the weight of water. However i believe extreme pressurization of the human body has long term health effects??

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High gravity + living under water = crunch!


Nope, ever heard of pressurization? You can use pressurization to eliminate the weight of water.



FYI Mystikmind, water barely compresses, so it not be in anyway elimniate the effect. Unless we invented something I'm not aware of.

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FYI Mystikmind, water barely compresses, so it not be in anyway elimniate the effect. Unless we invented something I'm not aware of.


Well since humans breathe air, i just assumed you would understand i was talking about the Pressurisation of air. Pressurising air in an underwater environment actually eliminates the crushing pressure of water.

If you pressurised a party balloon (using air) equally with the water as you dragged it deeper, it would never be crushed.

Another point, scuba divers air tanks are not affected by crushing pressure, if they were then when the diver tried to breathe, his mouth would get sucked into the tank!
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Well since humans breathe air, i just assumed you would understand i was talking about the Pressurisation of air. Pressurising air in an underwater environment actually eliminates the crushing pressure of water.


So true. I misunderstood you then. My fault. One question: You can only pressurize the air so much before it starts to harm humans, correct? You eardrums might explode.
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So true. I misunderstood you then. My fault. One question: You can only pressurize the air so much before it starts to harm humans, correct? You eardrums might explode.


you have to pressurise and depressurise slowly for that and many other medical reasons.
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So, if you did it slowly enough, you could infinetly pressurize a human, yet he would be unharmed?

I don't think that's what you meant, you come across as much smarter.
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So, if you did it slowly enough, you could infinetly pressurize a human, yet he would be unharmed?

I don't think that's what you meant, you come across as much smarter.


No, i don't think so. Perhaps it is not so smart of me though to trust a hollywood movie? I get this information from watching that show called 'the abys' but apparantly when the hero of the movie dives down to disarm a nuclear bom he suffers from some kind of mental condition from the pressure? Anyway as the story goes, he should have indeed died from the pressure but was saved by the aliens.

On a further note in that movie, remember the sea access pool? and that alien water probe entering from there into the building? That deep sea water acces was only possible due to the pressurized air conditions, otherwise the building would have flooded.
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i remember now, nitrogen hypoxia or somthing like that was killing him, so yea, nitrogen makes it impossible for humans to survive extreme pressures beyond a certain point.
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Informative. If I'm ever diving into nitrogen hypoxia at extreme depths, I'll know I'm dying now, thanks to you.
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the problem is that when you depressurize too quickly, nitrogen gas bubbles form in your blood. -- read more here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompression_sickness
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Wait up drakonfire: does your name happen to come from a roller coaster in Virginia (I think?)Please, you don't know how much it would mean if the answer was yes.

Back on topic, do you really care enough to look it up on Wikipedia?
thanks for doing though
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i remember now, nitrogen hypoxia or somthing like that was killing him, so yea, nitrogen makes it impossible for humans to survive extreme pressures beyond a certain point.


Nitrogen only becomes a problem once you start the decompression process. If you do it to fast the nitrogen which is normally and naturally dissolved in your blood comes out of solution in the form nitrogen gas, which leads to pain, lots of pain and the possibly death. If the process is gradual then there are usually no adverse effects. It can also happen when flying high in an un-pressurised aircraft. Other than that, I do think that the higher pressure would have adverse affects on the digestive system, which would also have to be pressurised like the atmosphere otherwise you couldn’t eat...or take a deuce. The lungs might also not like the high pressure, might make them expand further, messing with the arrangement of the chest cavity. In other words, the organs just wouldn’t be used to that high a pressure and would probably deteriorate faster than normal. But then again, im no doctor, so im not 100% certain on all that.

That is all.
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That is all.


good, good. Probably the best line.
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good, good. Probably the best line.



lol. It’s just how I finish of my posts.

That is all.
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Succint. I like it. I must say, I like your type.
-Laughing it off
-a clean signature
-commander of a very good custom race

you remind me of myself in some ways...

That 'tis all. lol.
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You know what Ghandi said "Imitation is the sincerest flattery"...so thanks .

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oh, you're welcome.

thats not all.


You used a funny emoticon  
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Meh.

That is all.
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Nitrogen only becomes a problem once you start the decompression process


No - What you refer to is comonly known as 'the benz' is a different problem to the one i'm talking about. Apparantly, going by the movie, Nitrogen also affects the brain at high pressures.

As for the rest, as somone pointed out earlier, water is almost uncompressable, and as the human body is 70% water, we are very well positioned to withstand great pressures just by default!

as far as the lungs are concearned, as long as you keep the air pressure equalized with the water, i see no problem there. However in that movie i mentioned 'the abys' the guy who went down to disarm the nuke actually used that new fluid breathing system - probably because they could not safely pressurise an air tank sufficiently without it expliding to be able to maintain positive pressure once it went all that way down?
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Why the heck do we care??? Don't mean to burst anybody's bubble, but we won't be on that planet in 200 years, if you really do live that long.
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I have a feeling that there are secrets out there yet to be found that will lead to the development of faster than light travel.

That of course would really piss off any poor suckers that sat in a primative spaceship for 20 years only to be passed by and beaten to the planet at the last minute by somone in a faster than light ship built and launched 19 years after the original mob left!!! hehehe