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I too will have to try the shift-grouping. I was trying to work with 2 different Excel spreadsheets and a web site this morning that all had multiple numbers I needed to work with so I needed to have any given 2 of the 3 sheets visible at the same time and NOT grouped (but still pretty large - I have vision issues that aren't severe, but never-the-less....). The grouping was making me crazy, but I had forgotten about the shift-grouping option! I also support the user who suggested a simple wa

[quote who="MindlessMe" reply="1" id="3695495"] I attempted to recreate this issue with my adobe software but everything is working and showing as intended. Is there any difference in the menu bar if you go between full screen window and a re-sizable window? [/quote] You are correct, the difference is full screen vs re-sizeable. Real estate is the big issue for me with all three of those programs, so I typically work in full screen for all three of them. Thanks

I'm not even remotely surprised Adobe ignored conventions. From my screenshots, it appears even the 3 Adobe applications I tried have different menu heights, and I'm glad this problem will be resolved. Thank you!

Obviously, I can't work without the menu bars. In InDesign, you can get a glimpse of where the menubar disappeared to, and then when you go back to Illustrator, you can see that's probably where they're hiding in that as well. Photoshop, you can't see at all. The menubars work fine for Excel, and for another obscure old Windows application I use. I have not checked the other Adobe software, nor any other software. I have annotated screenshots, which are at the dropbox link above. &nbs