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Pitbulls must be banned

Pitbulls must be banned


Enough is enough

What does it take to institute a National Ban on Pitbulls within the US?
Pitbulls are just too dangerous in the wrong hands.

Seems like every month I hear of a new mauling where a kid has been torn apart because of some careless owner.
Owners in these cases should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

I am using this forum to post each and every Mauling case that takes place.
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Reply #151 Top
Pit Bulls should be banned because i am a victim of an attack. Luckily my mixed breed, Buddy was there or I wouldnt be here today
If it werent for him I would probably be eight feet under right now with a pits jaws attatched to me!
Reply #152 Top
I do not agree with you I have two pitbulls and they have never hurt anyone they are loving and friendly dogs. I have a rednose and a blue neither one has ever shown aggresstion. It is all in how they are rasied. Do not judge them because there are evil people out there that raise them to fight. Have you ever owned one I bet the answer is no. You judge them and don't know them. It is just like being rasist you need to look at all sides not all pitbulls are bad i love my dogs and I would not trade them for anything, people that have met my dogs love them. Please dont judge the dog judge the people that abuse them. people like you really need to grow up and come up with a better solution. Do backround checks on people don't ban the dog I will do my best to stop people like you and anyone that ones a pitbull would be behind me please grow up use your time on something else crime poverty not banning pitbulls.
Reply #153 Top
I too use to think that pitbulls were vicious. Mainly because of what I heard on the news. When my husband brought our first one home, I thought it would be vicious and hurt us. This was six years ago. Now we own a few. I've had dogs all of my life and these are the best dogs I have ever owned!! They have turned out to be quite the opposite. We call them pitiful pitbulls. They always want to be held and played with. If they chew something and you ask " What is this?", they bow down and pout. They love to please us. These dogs definately get in the wrong hands and the people should be held accountable. Any pitbull that shows unneccesary aggression toward people (they might protect their home like most dogs, although mine think every one is their friend) should be euthanized because this is not true to their nature. Even when guarding their home you should be able to tell them be nice and they'll stop. Well bred ones are very smart and those are the only kind that should be around. I say make a way to make sure these dogs get in the right hands and don't punish the the dogs and the people who are doing everything right. PUNISH THE DEED NOT THE BREED.
Reply #154 Top
I too use to think that pitbulls were vicious. Mainly because of what I heard on the news. When my husband brought our first one home, I thought it would be vicious and hurt us. This was six years ago. Now we own a few. I've had dogs all of my life and these are the best dogs I have ever owned!! They have turned out to be quite the opposite. We call them pitiful pitbulls. They always want to be held and played with. If they chew something and you ask " What is this?", they bow down and pout. They love to please us. These dogs definately get in the wrong hands and the people should be held accountable. Any pitbull that shows unneccesary aggression toward people (they might protect their home like most dogs, although mine think every one is their friend) should be euthanized because this is not true to their nature. Even when guarding their home you should be able to tell them be nice and they'll stop. Well bred ones are very smart and those are the only kind that should be around. I say make a way to make sure these dogs get in the right hands and don't punish the the dogs and the people who are doing everything right. PUNISH THE DEED NOT THE BREED.
Reply #155 Top
I was once believed that only dog that were mistreated were vicious until, my sweet family pet bit someone. The same loving pet that I kissed and loved. I would not have believed it if I had not seen it for my self. My husban works for the fire dept., he went on a call involving a child that had been mauled by a Pit Bull and was trying to attack another man. The animal control officer that had not seen the attacks came and caught the dog, she but her arms around the dog and gave it a hug. People just don't understand that these dogs can flip a switch so fast. These dogs also have much stronger jaws than most dogs, sure any dog can bite but the results are not the same. It is the BREED AND THE DEED. I don't believe in a bann but I do believe we need some sort of control. This breed is responsible for more fatalities than any other breed. Is it possible that people that own these dogs just happen to be more irresponsible dog owners? If not than explain why studys show Pit Bulls (mostly males) are responsible for more fatalities than any other breed? Why did Germany, New Zealand, parts of Canada and a few other countrys bann these dogs I guess they must know something?
Reply #156 Top
I don't think Pitbulls should be banned. It isn't their fault how they are raised and treated by some of their owners. I bet if anybody would look in on they ones that did the mauling most of the Pitbulls were either chained up or kenneled most of their lives without a lot of human contact. Here is a website that you need to look at http://www.atts.org/stats1.html (American Temperament Test Society, Inc.). And let me just say I'm not putting all the blame on the owners I put some of blame on the some of the breeders too, that just breeds two dogs to get puppies that don't look at the temeperment of the parents before hand. You need to really educate yourself before posting anything like this.
Reply #157 Top
This is the most rediculous thing I have ever read in my life, I think people should read more about pit bulls, I owned pit bnulls and no other breed since I was Two years old now I have three children and five pits without a single incident.
Reply #158 Top
American German Shepards are the laughing stock of the GSD world. That is why police departments and such usually only import their dogs straight from Germany where higher standards in breeding are required. The "american" counterpart has way to amny health problems, temperment issues etc. IT is STUPID PEOPLE that should be banned.
I have been raising and breeding APBTs for over 20 years now. I HAVE NEVER been bitten, threatened nor have my children or grand childen ever been.
(granted they have a very powerfull bite) I would choose an APBT over any other breed out there. (and I am also an obedience instructor)

I don't take to kindly of people putting down American German Shepherds, I own four of them and two of them are herding dogs and the other two are in the show ring. They have very good temperment and they have no health problems. All medium to big breeded dogs have hip and elbow problems so don't go throwing bad thing on a breed when you don't no nothing about them.






These are just some of the pic's I have of my kids with my AMERICAN GERMAN SHEPHERDS.

Reply #159 Top
I have 2 apbts They me or my dogs have NEVER hurt anyone but try and take my dogs from me and you will have the fight of your life I promise you thatGo to therealpitbull.com do some reading and shut the fuck up its a dog.
Reply #160 Top
i was mauled by all these anonymous contributors' sweet lil pitbulls. yup. every damn one of em.


That explains a lot, hehe...
Reply #161 Top
i know that we all hav our rights to voice our opinion ....but i disaggre i have to wonderful pitbulls they were and still our fateful dogs..many people raise this dogs to be the way some are...is not there fault..just because one is bad doesnt mean all are bad too...you should banned the people that make them they way their are...that fights them kill them abuse them ..they have feelings to...

"it is true that pitbulls grab on and don't let go but what they often grab on and dont let go is your heart not your arm"

www.yg2lm.com
Reply #162 Top
pitbulls are victoms of their own stigma . yes the breed CAN be trained to fight but so can any other . yes , the breed has the
ability to bite and not let go , but , it got that in the early 1600s from its cousen the bull dog when they were used in bate hunting .
i have seen jack russells , shitzu's , poodles that were more vicious than pit's . in fact it is shown that most people attacked by
a dog could not tell of it's specific breed . most dog attacks are fast and the person goes into shock . and it has been proven that
most attacks are blamed on a "pitbull breed" there is only one pittbull breed and that is the american pitbull terrier . These dogs
are known for there high tolerince for pain ( which makes them great with kids and their antics " i know becouse i have bolth ".)
and most often enough my son gets in more trouble than my dog . and more importantly their undieing wanting to please there
master and do good . unfortunely there are thoughs that take advantage of this but a pit in a good home makes for a great
companion .
these dogs are best fit for an active family who hikes , camps , hunts , runs , ect .... it is truely the breed of breeds . they are
a working dog that well never quite on you and thinks family first .
on dog attacks , most of them can be put to bad judgement by the victom or the owner and rarely on the dog it's self . look at the
sercomstances . i can think of one were an five year old girl got her arm rippedof by two rot's . now at first glance you go , WHERE
WAS THE OWNER !? WHAT HORRIBLE DOGS!! BUT, the dogs were in there kennel , on privite property , with signs . were the heck
was the girls perents . how the heck did an five year old girl get on privite property bye her self . yes it is sad that she died from
her wounds but what kind of perents let their five year old daughter out of site . the dogs were doing what came natural to them .
protect their property .
most dog attacks can be avoided by simply applying commen sense and teaching your kids good dog manners .
1. never aprotch a dog that doesn't know you well .

2. never discipline a dog that isn't your's I.E. swat , slap , force , ect.

3. remember that dogs are a pack animal and well show dominance if you show fear or agression " go with non agression
avoidence " pay no attention and avoid the dogs area . do not look at the dog .

4. if a dog does attack you square your shoulders to the dog in a wrestlers stance , when the dog goes for you fall backwards to
the ground bringing the dog in the gaurd position . ( you on bottom with your legs strattling the dog's waist line ) try to get
control of the dog's head if the dog is wearing a collor grab the back and push the dog's head up in the air .
do not try to run . you give the dog the advantage by running away and they run much faster than you do .

5. no dog is born mean . it takes a mean owner to do it so blame them .

FACT : PITS ARE TRAINED TO HELP POLICE SAVE LIVES AND WORK WITH THE BLIND .
Reply #163 Top
I wonder who sushi thinks she's fooling with these repeated anonymous posts...C'mon already, it's a dead topic, write a new article and quit speciously reviving this one.~yawns~


Whip!

I am not feeding this,
These happen to be real bonified idiots other than yours truly posting!
Reply #164 Top
I recently wouldn't have had much of an opion on this matter either way. Yesterday I was walking my girlfriends Boston Terrier when we crossed paths with a pitbull. Just as fast as we could cross paths, the pitbull lashed out, clamping down onto the side of "Bentley's" face. The construction of a pitbull's jaw enables it to "lock" onto it's prey. This is what these animals genetic codes enable them to do. Finally after 3 or 4 minutes of the dog owner violently beating on his dog, and myself prying....to get "Bentley" free....and after I myself had gotten bitten in the hand, was finally able to get the dog free. Would this have happened if this dog were say a......"golden lab????" .......Possibly, but it wasn't a golden lab.....it was pitbull. For the people who say that this could have happened with any dog. I would say to them. True. But here's a test for you.
If you have children....or if not, pretend that you do. Your child is 4 years old, and has a hand full of dog food.....chained to a tree in the park is a golden retreiver, and a pitbull. Your child must pick one dog to give the food to, out of his/her hand. Which dog will you persuede your child to go up to. They must pick one. Why not the pitbull?? I thought it didn't matter. Pitbull attacks can be prevented....I'm sure of that. But do you wear your seatbelt on the way to work?? Why?? Chances are you won't get into an accident. Just being careful?? Now if you could ensure yourself that you would be 100% invoulnerable to an accident wouldn't you do that?? And would you still wear your seatbelt?? Probably not. So why even have that chance exist? Chances are the pitbull won't attack, but I know a way to make absolutely sure it doesn't.....get rid of it. There are hunderds of breeds of dogs out there. I see no benifit to having one of these animals.
So to the people who say...."Hey, that's not fair!!...You're profiling a certain type of dog!!".....damn straight. And the next time you cross one on the sidewlak. Bend down. Pet the little bugger. Give it a kiss. Scratch his belly. Let your kids pet it. Why not??? They're just the same as any other dog. Aren't they???
Reply #165 Top
To say All Pitt Bulls Should Be Banned is an ignorant statement.
Pitt Bulls were once thought of as Friendly and Faithful dogs untill a few bad OWNERS (who should never own ANY animal by the way) trained their dogs to be agressive and fight. Pitt Bulls are wonderful, fantastic and amazing dogs very friendly and LOVE POSITIVE ATTENTION AND AFFECTION.
Reply #166 Top
The biggest problem I have with all of this is the suggestion of a NATIONAL ban. Many communities can, and do, outlaw pit bulls within their community, and that is their right, so long as the democratic process is observed.

But a national ban fails to recognize that there are many places where even the meanest pit bull around could be kept and never have the chance to endanger another person. Frankly, if I live in the middle of the Arkansas countryside, I'm not about to get a french poodle to patrol my property.
Reply #167 Top
Hi I was just searching the web to find current news on someone who is apparently getting away, so far with what I will copy and paste hereHi everyone. I'm writing to inform you of a pit bull training
facility in Lawrenceburg, TN. Timothy Morrow was investigated by
the Sheriff's Department and was found to possess 13 pits - all
emaciated and scarred, a rape cage, tread mill, 28 breaker sticks,
enhancement drugs, and several dead dogs in garbabge bags. There
was even a boar's head hanging from a puppy cage. This case never
saw the light of day and the dogs were returned to the man who
claimed they owned him - all because he said they were never
fought. His name is Steve McConnel of Pulaski, TN. Peta is now
beginning a campaign for this case and I'm asking everone to write
letters, send e-mails, and make phone calls. We want justice
served. I am attatching the local officials info../ I OWN 2 Pitbulls and I am a part of Missouri Pitbull Rescue if anyone is interested, they might like to look them up on the web.missouripitbullrescue@mprgroup. We are all writing to the officials
in the town of Lawrenceburg, TN to make sure the individuals involved in this particular case are prosecuted. We look for cases such as these so that people who are known to be abusing this breed are brought to justice. People like Jeffrey Dahmer
started out abusing animals. If you took someone, like Patty Hearst, kidnapping her and putting her in a closet and who was subjected to radical treatment - she may come out later with automatic weapons and help rob banks. BSL - breed specific
legislation doesn't work. Studies have shown that if pitbulls are banned in a city, then people who owned them - just go out and get another type of dog and try to make it aggresive as they did
the last. My stepfather once shot a dog, a German Shepherd for chasing me on my bike. He also said that pitbulls should all be shot and killed. He heard the same type of media that is being
shown today. Have you heard of this story in TN? Do you remember the "killer bees are coming" story from the 80s? MPR rejects 80% of its applications for various reasons. Home checks are made.
We abide by leash laws. The propensity for the dog to be aggressive towards people or animals is evaluated while in foster care. Both of my dogs were abused before I got them. One was left
with no food or water in a pile of trash. The other shows signs of abuse as she is quite timid and it looks like her ears were cropped by someone who was definately not a vet. We believe we
have to start holding PEOPLE responsible. If you see a dog (any dog) who is left for extended periods of time, barking aggressively - call animal control. You may laugh, but I've done it. They came
out, evaluated it right there, said it was too dangerous to be in the neighborhood and took it away. This was in Florida. Vermont has an animal task force as all states should. Three Rotweillers
once knocked me down when I was out jogging and bit the back of my shirt off. Luckily, the owner came running out. If they banned Rots, she may have went out and bought pitbulls. What
she needed was a better fence. Thirteen different types of dogs are thrown into the pitbull classification. In fact, my dog who looks like a pit - also looks like a dogo argentino. Before and just after WWII, the German Shepherd, staying in that breed for many years and ruining its illustrious reputation before moving on to the Doberman which quickly became the bully-dog of choice. After ruining the Doberman's good name, it got hold of Rough Collies and then Saint Bernards, doing almost irreparable harm to both breeds' repute
Meanwhile, tens of thousands of well-bred Pitbulls, owned by responsible citizens and kept under loving control at all times, remain at home as model canine citizens - but that situation never seems to qualify as "news" in the media's eyes But BSL, by utilizing all the wrong methods, not only fails to protect citizens but law-abiding dog owners as well. It falls well short of its stated goal by not recognizing that specific dogs rather than specific breeds constitute a problem, for no breed in and of itself is dangerous. Any individual dog of any breed may become dangerous, almost invariably due to bad owners.

In fact, "the dog problem" is not a dog problem at all but a "people problem" - more specifically, an owner problem.

Rather than ineffective BSL, the public needs robust legislation integrated with effective enforcement to punish all careless, indifferent, or criminal owners who fail to take full precautions to protect the populace from their dangerous dogs, without reference to breed. Classifying all members of a specific breed as being dangerous contravenes science and reason, flying in the face of experience and common sense. In this case, as always, tyranny's handmaiden is the closed mind that fixates on one irrational concept to the exclusion of all else and the refusal to accept rational argumentation or contrary evidence, scientific or otherwise.
Reply #168 Top
Baby girl mauled by family pit bull in Santa BarbaraSANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) - A baby girl will need extensive surgery after being mauled by her family's pit bull in Santa Barbara. Police Lieutenant Paul McCaffrey says the dog attacked the eleven-month-old yesterday afternoon inside their apartment. The infant suffered bite wounds to her face, forehead, and scalp. She was taken to Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital where she is listed in stable condition. At the familys request, the dog was taken into custody by Santa Barbara Animal Control and euthanized. McCaffrey says the eight-year old pit bull mix had no prior history of biting people. He says the child's mother kept the dog at the girl's grandmother's house in Santa Barbara. McCaffrey says yesterday was the first time the pit bull had been introduced to the infant. From: Michael Edgecomb, KKFX-TV, Santa Maria

A year later but another story of a "Harmless Pitbull" mauling someone; this time an infant.

Many before have argued that the Pitbull breed is a harmless breed; harmless unless provoked or harmless unless kept by evil ruthless owners. Well in this case the maul'ee was an infant; how threatening can an infant be?!

Whether it is a National, Statewide, Countywide or even a Townwide Ban, Pitbulls need to be taken off the streets and made ILLEGAL to own. We are not allowed to have Wolves and fucking Tigers as pets because they have too much killing power and have proven they can not be domesticated animals. What will it take to put this kind of breed on this LIST?

I wonder if the couple above were one of the ones who Blogged on this very site saying "Pitbulls are cute and harmless, cause I got one... They would never ever bite someone because it is part pf our family"

The only thing worse would have been if it was not their own child but a friends who came over with a kid and asked if the dog was SAFE.

+ "Umm i'm a little nervous about your dog and my infant..."
- "Ohh, Pitbulls are safe, the media has made them out to be killers.. totally out of context...fucking pisses me off..."
+ "So he's safe?"
- "ohh yeah, Pitbulls are the most loving breed...it's only bad owners that make bad dogs.. pisses me off when I see ban pitbull signs"
+ "well ok then... puts down child..."

(The next minute is a horror scene where the dog grabs the child like a meat flavored beanie-bag and the dogs owner shouting histerically "it's not the dog's fault... the baby must have provoked the dog!!")

This is sickening.
Reply #169 Top
In all that time, how many infants have been killed in car accidents? Should we ban those, too?

You mean well, sushi, but I stand by my original position.
Reply #170 Top
In all that time, how many infants have been killed in car accidents? Should we ban those, too?

You mean well, sushi, but I stand by my original position.


But you make a good point, if there was defect in a certain car that was causing deaths, it would be recalled.
Also cars do not suddenly lunge forward while parked mauling someone sitting in front of them!
Reply #171 Top
But you make a good point, if there was defect in a certain car that was causing deaths, it would be recalled.


But you haven't proven a "defect" in pit bulls, only in their husbandry. Big difference.
Reply #172 Top


But you haven't proven a "defect" in pit bulls, only in their husbandry. Big difference.


It is my belief Pitbulls contain the same "Defect" that Lions, Tigers and Bears contain. And it is for this "Defect" that these kind of animals are not allowed depending on the state to own without special licenses.

I think pitbulls should require a license to own.
Reply #173 Top
It is my belief Pitbulls contain the same "Defect" that Lions, Tigers and Bears contain


The first three words of this sentence explain exactly why such a ban should never be allowed. Your belief does not translate to fact, sushi, nor does mine, for that matter.
Reply #174 Top
The first three words of this sentence explain exactly why such a ban should never be allowed. Your belief does not translate to fact, sushi, nor does mine, for that matter.


Sometimes personal beliefs are the catalyst a situation needs to be propelled into motion. I have only caught glimpses of your CPS arts, but is there really much difference between this and your call to a change within CPS? Both of us make a call for change. I make a call to have these dogs reclassified as exotic animals and taken off the streets.

My opinion is guided from stories that pop up on the media again and again. The stories vary but the outcome is always the same with someone getting mauled, mostly children that have no voice or choice in the matter.
Reply #175 Top
I have only caught glimpses of your CPS arts, but is there really much difference between this and your call to a change within CPS?


HUGE difference. They're exact opposites, in fact. I am calling for smaller government, you are calling for bigger government.