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The success of the Gmail economic model is just how many and how quickly people take it up....as it is reliant [critically reliant] on size of potential advertising market, hence the 'clubby' distribution gimick ....get your mates to sell you on the idea....and then sell it on to others...ad nauseum.
It's so blatantly overt it's hilarious...
So what? So it's brilliant marketing. The problem is?
As for #100, I follow you for the first three statements, but the forth one doesn't apply.
| Get name and addy of every person ever to have bought a tie and you locate every potential tie-pin buyer. |
If you mean to imply that Google gives out your name and Gmail address to advertisers, you're wrong. Google does have a private policy and they have ethicsc, unlike other companies (AOL,Microsoft, etc.)
| If you mean to imply that Google gives out your name and Gmail address to advertisers, you're wrong |
Oh come now....surely you don't believe that? The whole reason for Gmail is advertising....and it's clever....it doesn't 'give out your addy, etc', it taps the advertiser on the shoulder and points at you physically and says 'HE MIGHT JUST WANT YOUR PRODUCT...WITH OUR HELP AS AN INTERFACE WE [YOU] GET HIM'
It's so bloody clever....they know you....they have you...you are their lamb to the slaughter....and they are so noble and just they interface as the 'legal' way to circumvent otherwise overt information dissemination.
The wording of the privacy statements is vague at best and deceptive at worst.
| It's so bloody clever....they know you....they have you...you are their lamb to the slaughter.... |
Sorry Jafo, I just gotta laugh 
| Oh come now....surely you don't believe that? The whole reason for Gmail is advertising....and it's clever....it doesn't 'give out your addy, etc', it taps the advertiser on the shoulder and points at you physically and says 'HE MIGHT JUST WANT YOUR PRODUCT...WITH OUR HELP AS AN INTERFACE WE [YOU] GET HIM' |
What makes you think that? I have never once clicked on an advertising link. The only way the advertiser is going to benefit is if I do click on their link. Sure, the whole purpose of the site is for advertising, but if I choose to ignore the beggar on the street, they go pester the next guy. Jafo, I find your attitude towards GMail somewhat similar to people who say that Stardock is evil.
Your name and other personal information is not given to the advertisers. The ads are placed there by a software, the advertisers never know on who's email account their ad were displayed. They will only know you if somehow you willingly give it to them (for example if you click on a ad contest link and enter your information in a form).
Part of Gmail privacy policy:
Google takes privacy very seriously, and your trust is important to us. Gmail users should know:
Google also takes several steps to guard the confidentiality of users' information by offering a number of industry-leading protections. Among other things, Gmail users benefit from:
Rocky...of course they want to fight spam and spammers....that's why they developed their own methodology.
I gladly support sites such as Wincustomize.com [obviously]....I choose to, just as I choose to be aware of what motivates Gmail's existence and raison d'etre.
The intrinsic and substantive difference is with the 'how' and 'by which means' that the advertising targetting is acquired.....through people's willingness to allow a private commercial company to intercept ON ANY LEVEL communications between individuals controlled by the Telecommunications Act, where one reasonably expects a degree of privacy within such communication.
Rescinding one's rights to privacy from commercial entities is not a good thing, unless you are the commercial entity itself.
| Jafo, I find your attitude towards GMail somewhat similar to people who say that Stardock is evil. |
Patric...that's quite unfair....It insinuates comparitive hysteria....and you know full-well I am not a party to the latter.
This is all about a new, clever way of duping those who cannot pidgeon-hole the new concept within the current examples of 'spyware' or 'spam' or 'innocent advertising'.
The idea is new and intentionally portrayed as 'non invasive'....but the result is identical.
You are being connected with an advertiser which would NOT be the case if Gmail did not hire a bunch of 'robots' to scan a private communication for keywords.
It's really quite simple....so simple I can't see why people refuse to acknowledge it....
Somewhere within the conditions it also states that content may be forwarded or scrutinized when legally required....worded similar to that, leaving open the floodgates to all fun interpretations of what is considered 'required'.
It is too vaguely worded to protect anyone what-so-ever.
http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/000942.html
I like Google as a search engine....it's efficiency is due to its dominance of the 'industry'....but it ain't all roses and cute, cuddly cats....
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