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After update Start10, Curtains makes trouble

After update Start10, Curtains makes trouble

After upgrading Start10 (1.75> 1.96), Curtains stops working. Transparency does not work, accent, the Start button disappears, changing the topic will cause an error.

Windows 10 Pro 20H2, Start10 1.75-1.96 / Curtains 1.15/Cairo Dark theme

 

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Reply #26 Top

The problem persists... :'(  

https://uloz.to/tamhle/NFLckQGWvzno/name/Nahrano-15-2-2021-v-14-55-03

 

Apply accent to start, taskbar and action center colors the taskbar and action center even when it is turned off.

The "apply accent to caption and borders" item cannot be turned off at all.

The accent also colors transparent images as window-fill, which is not desirable and cannot be set anywhere.


Reply #27 Top

Just to clear something up here.

Start 10 v1.75 is not compatible with Curtains.  Start 10 v1.94 and above are required to work with Curtains.

The older version you were using simply stopped curtains applying the theme to the taskbar + start menu + start button.  Once you upgraded it allowed Curtains to work correctly.

The message about Universal applications is nothing to do with Start10 and shows when you first apply a style and a universal application is open (even if hidden in the background like the store is after a reboot).

When it comes to recolouring a section, make sure you have told Curtains which colour to use on a given part.  Otherwise it will not recolour.  Be aware that hue shift colouring will not work on greyscale images (as saturation remains 0).  You would need to use the forced options on that type of image.

Reply #28 Top

Hello,

but that doesn't solve my problem. For the same theme your Curtains will recolor all the buttons and only some of them for me. How to force "All Programs" and "Shut Down" to be recolored as in the video? It is not a problem to force this firmly using [Start10.AllPrograms] and [Start10.ShutdownButton]. I just can't set up a mouseover for these buttons. On all downloaded themes, the buttons are only gray except for the forced texture (Pure2 etc.).

In contrast, how to prevent the background from being recolored according to the color of the accent. This possibility is not mentioned anywhere. Below is the Start menu, where Curtains is controlled once and Start10 a second time. Here, however, the possibility of adjusting the colors of the buttons disappears completely, and they are all only gray. I found Start10 themes for Shadow or Round mode, but not for a modern look.

 

Reply #29 Top

Still, I can't see it happening on my system. Not really sure what is the issue on your system. But I still get the accent colored allprogram and shutdown button when mouse over. And the Startmenu background still transparent black as I showed on my video above.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #30 Top

Hello,

However, the background in your video has no texture and it is only transparent black and therefore probably will not turn color, as stated by Neil Banfield.

Furthermore, you can see in your video that blue does not have the same shade everywhere - the difference is in Programs, Off and other menus. Maybe because a different color is forced here. But you're still better - I can't change color at all.

Either way, I can't set the color for the buttons in any way, some themes don't work from the factory during a clean installation.

So once again ...

- I want to set one color for all Start10 menu buttons

- I want to cancel the color tone of the Start10 menu when using a texture

- for all bright themes from the production, the light font is on a light background, even in dark mode, so they are unusable

 

https://ulozto.cz/tamhle/Y3AnLiUEwU4D/name/Nahrano-16-2-2021-v-10-20-39

 

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Daniel, reply 30

- I want to set one color for all Start10 menu buttons
End of Daniel's quote

If you wish not to use "auto pick an accent color from my background". You should make sure not to choose it in this two places.

1) In Windows Setting -> Personalization -> Colors and manually set to color of your choice. Blue in this case.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #32 Top

Hello,

In Windows personalization, it changes to blue each time you change the theme. I made sure there was a different color - gray here. Nevertheless, when you change the color of the taskbar, the background color of the menu also changes - in the order blue, orange, green. I couldn't find a way to ban it. Buttons cannot be changed with this setting - only the mouseover works and only some buttons.

Tactically, you kept quiet about the illegibility of the original themes - light font on a light background.

 

https://ulozto.cz/tamhle/d1lh20R39lye/name/Nahrano-16-2-2021-v-11-21-18

Reply #33 Top

Some themes were designed to work best only with Light Mode or only Dark Mode.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #34 Top

I find that I probably won't get help. Bright themes don't work at all. I notice that the Curtains were wasted money for a broken application. Too bad, at first it seemed to have great potential. 

I did not get an acceptable answer to my questions and I got nowhere to solve the problem.

You probably won't even play the videos I'm sending you. Otherwise, you would see how poor the Curtains application is. :'(  

 

https://ulozto.cz/tamhle/dyWHRwuT3Wmx/name/Nahrano-16-2-2021-v-11-57-40

Reply #35 Top

I did play all your videos before and I still can't see what you are looking for. Your curtains style you send over, I have checked and I made a video out from it. Still I can't see what you're trying to achieve. I will stop watching now. Hopefully someone else could help you better.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #36 Top

Good,

I will try to explain again.

I'm trying to reach

- one (same) color of ALL Start10 menu buttons

- no background colors for the Start10 menu (based on the Curtains setting)

- non-functional ALL light themes (in dark and light mode)

 

Reply #37 Top

Hello,
I have forward your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #38 Top

The problem was partially solved - just delete the key in the registry. After the updates, there was a lot of clutter left and the accent just didn't work. Deleting the key fixed the problem. :)  

The unwanted display of the accent color on the Start10 background or the "fill" image remains ...

 

https://ulozto.cz/tamhle/r4Tf7OeT6mPk/name/Nahrano-20-2-2021-v-21-02-27

 

Reply #39 Top

Hello,
I have forward your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #40 Top

I notice that the forum does not work at all. Where to complain about broken software?

Reply #41 Top

Quoting Daniel, reply 40

I notice that the forum does not work at all. Where to complain about broken software?
End of Daniel's quote

I am unsure what the issue is here.

You were previously using a version of Start10 which was not compatible with Curtains which resulted in inconsistent behaviour.  Having upgraded you now have a version that is compatible and thus is being themed by Curtains.

Should you wish to stop this you can tell Curtains to not apply the taskbar settings which should revert back to the behaviour you had before other than the taskbar buttons theming as those will be excluded as well.

The default Start10 behaviour is to recolour based on the OS accent colour, but only if the colour is set in the OS to apply to the taskbar and startmenu.  The accent colour can be controlled by a Curtains style so even if you have told it not to apply taskbar settings, it may well still impact the menu based on accent colour changes.

In a curtains style each part can have recolouring set.  This is based on one of the three user defined colours (Accent, or custom colours 1 and 2) and can be done using hue shifting or forced recolouring.  It is important that ALL sections you want to recolour have this set as it will not recolour otherwise.

Reply #42 Top

Although I do not fully understand the description, but I solved it by editing the registry, What I did not solve is a broken translation or original topics - white text on a white background ...