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The idiotic postings below about the democratic party.

The idiotic postings below about the democratic party.

You complain about nothing positivey from democrats??!? Maybe you missed the eight years of non-stop whining from the republicans! For eight long years they couldn't get over an ELECTED president they didn't like. Imagine if Clinton's brother had fixed his election, not one republican would ever SHUT UP about it!
EVER!

You want a positive agenda? Try the earned income tax credit that CLinton got passed that lifted millions of Americans who work for a living out of poverty and off welfare. Try the programs that put internet and computers into the vast majority of american schools that we without them. Try the Middle class tax cuts that gave us unpresidented booming stock markets that dwarfed anything before or since. You could try the lowest unemployment in 30 years. Or the first budget surplus on a yearly basis in 36 years. You want positive? Then put a democrat back in charge!

You want negative? Then look around. THree years and we have the highest deficits in the HISTORY of the country. We have lost 3 MILLION jobs in just three years, that never happened any time except the great depression with Hoover. You want negative, the judges you want to call qualified would love to take us back to slavery and a church run society. When your justice dept is run by a man who was fighting to keep Activly bussing black kids across town to stick them in all black schools, you are not an acceptable judge of qualifications.
You want negative, try the blaming of enron's rip off of charging 3000% higher than the highest rates in HISTORY in California on the salmon run like Cheney did. With memo's calling the program "death star" in Enron stationary, Bush said "I don't know Ken Lay". Only texas newspapers from the Gov's term show them buddy buddy as can be. He is a LIAR!@|!!!!
In the 2000 debate Bush claimed he sponsered a bill of rights for patients in Texas, and blabbered on and on about how proud he was of it. HE VETOED IT TWICE!!! And it became law WITHOUT his SIGNATURE! He's a LIAR!! Clear and plain.


You want to talk about the blackout, Fine. Lets talk about how the Grid upgrade was in the budget until BUsh told the gopers to veto it. TWICE! Republicans talk about responsibility, but somehow, when they are in office and everything always goes to hell, they are never responsible for any of it according to them. Let's talk about the fact that the company where it happened, first Energy gave hundreds of thousands to Bush and had massive leaks in their reactor in Ohio
that they barely caught when inspecters came in. The safety record for them is disgusting.
Yet thanks to Bush, the regulaters keep loosening the reigns on them.

Well, if you control all three branches, and the country is in the worst state it's been since the depression, don't tell me you aren't responisible!

You want positive agenda, look at the small business tax breaks Howard Dean gave in VErmont that increased their jobs by 26% over six years. Only his state isn't cutting everything to the bone under Bush. Only his state still has a $10 million dollar surplus to get through.
Across the country, every state run by the GOP is bankrupt. What to the republicans say for themselves? Excuse after excuse. Bill Clinton had one affair, Bush is screwing the whole nation.

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Reply #26 Top
It is possible that Reagan (after 8 years in office mind you) began the 90's economy upside.

Also keep in mind that Clinton was in Office 8 years as well and had something to do with maintaining that upside.

Also keep in mind that it is not just the presidents policies that make or brake the economy, but it usually the one who get blamed for it when it is bad (or good for that matter)


Oh and the "trickel down theory" did not work. By the time it got to the majority of people it was so small it did not do anything. If you notice Bush tax cuts tried to go directly to Mid and upper Mid class not just the highest. It was also trying to help business invest in themselves and hopefully hire more people.

There is nothing 'trickel down' about that.

You can't pull yourself up by your own bootstraps if you can't buy boots.


For once I would like to here someone on the Repulbican side say something good about the Democrats and the Democrats say something good about the Repuplicans.


Oh well....

Anyway, I agree with Kona.
Reply #27 Top
'break'....'hear'....Spell checker
Reply #30 Top
Nothing? So there was no policy, no action, no anything that was positive?

And I would suppose that in your view the Republicans have done everything right?

Unless you were just joking...

Anyway, I think both sides have done good and bad as far as policy making and governance. It is the main reason why we can seem to work together because we are always poiting out the worst in each other.


I would advise doing some research in both parties policies. I think there will be some suprises for everyone.


Oh and I agree with motion. Try to come up with a solution or go build something.
Reply #31 Top
I have a hard time saying that anyone is a "democrat" or "republican" anymore.  They get elected as one or the other, but they are far from the original ideals that the parties originally stood for. 
Reply #32 Top
Here is something positive that this liberal (me) did:

I spent the afternoon mowing the lawn, preparing a roast beef and yorkshire pudding dinner and putting the finishing touches on a side table I've been building (with the help of The New Yankee, Norm Abrams....ahh the miracle of video tape ).

And I did it all without flaming anyone; without calling either Democrats or Republicans names; without blaming Democrats or Republicans for all the problems in the world; without seaching the internet looking for any scrap of literature that would prove my particular slant or help my particular spin on my view of international politics.

To paraphrase President Harry Truman, it's amazing what you can accomplish when you stop looking for someone to blame.
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Reply #33 Top
Sheesh it isn't Liberal verse Conservative anymore... there is such a gray haze around each from being consumed by special interest groups I can not see how anyone can see let alone find the root of either party anymore.

/me ducking out before Styl looks in here




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.......... the next person to use the D/R words, has to run Babya Desktop for a week. (and make skins, and screenshots) 





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Reply #35 Top
Dopey Rules there, Randy....
Reply #36 Top
########################### <--- zipper across my mouth and fingers !



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Reply #37 Top
I have a better one. The next person who uses the D/R word has to use the UZee windowblind for a whole week. That logo is enough to make anyone sick and its all over the skin.
Reply #38 Top
I have a D&R Mower



Reply #40 Top
Lets just be nice to each other, evryone has the right to have an oppinion. (ofcourse my oppinion is right, and your oppinion is wrong, but still )
Reply #41 Top
Is you spelling of 'oppinion' intentional Styl?
Reply #42 Top
oops...
I mean *your* spelling... >
Reply #43 Top
So the Dema.... those guys are against these guys.

What's wrong with that?



Reply #44 Top
Maybe because it will never console people but set people up against each other?
Reply #45 Top
maybe thats the point above a cetain level?

"pole-a-tics) positive and negative colliding making everyone twitch with tics to remind them to never get to close



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Reply #46 Top
EH, in your oppinion its wrong, but like I said, I am right
Reply #48 Top
you know I am sick of this politics crap.It does not matter if you are democrat or republican.The 2 party system does not work.when you vote you are only chooseing the lesser of 2 evils. All politicians lie, everyone knows that.So instead of complaining, why don't you do something about it?Do not be part of the problem, be part of the solution.


Oh just stop! This is silly and pointless. Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives, con-artists, slight-of-hand artist, bold faced liars. What's the difference? Make some skins, or go out and mow the lawn, or build a functional piece of furniture, or even go and pick up some litter in your local park, but do something constructive. This is anything but constructive.


We (myself and motion) already tried to point out to you all the thruth, hence the qutoes but You guys just don't get it. OK time to flame.

POLITICS SUCK! GET A LIFE!
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thank you for your bright and toughtfull oppinion Kona
Reply #50 Top
Kona sits back and laughs at all of you!

We got democrats blaming the republicans
and
we got repubulicans blaming democrats

Meanwhile we have a suck ass economy, gas prices are high, terrorist attacks continue (on a smaller scale than 9/11) people are losing their jobs, alot of people are becoming homeless, people are starving.... the list goes on

MAYBE YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP SAYING THE DEMOCRATS DID THIS OR THE REPUBLICANS DID THAT AND WORK TOGETHER!

So that America can get back on track!

I AM SICK OF THIS HE SAID SHE SAID BULLCRAP

Politics suck ass everyone knows that

You all need to be part of the solution, not the problem. I have. It is called not being a democrat or replublican.
I am Constitution party. The 2 party system does not work.