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Bugs when using Excel 2013

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Bugs when using Excel 2013

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I noted 2 bugs with Groupy 1.02 when using with Excel 2013

 

1. Sometimes when I have several Excel files grouped in tabs, when I'm typing into a cell, suddenly what I'm typing is not being entered into the foreground file but I realise moments later it was typed into a background file. This shift of focus happens randomly without any apparent pattern. It's dangerous because I could be overwriting content in another file since it's not visible to the user. Not sure if you can understand what I'm describing...?

 

2. When opening an Excel file attachment from an email, it will normally launch in Protected View. Now assuming I have several Excel files grouped together including one in Protected View. Now, when I click on "Enable Editing" to disable protected view, the result is an empty window for that particular file. I have a taken a video of this issue which I can send to Stardock if I can have the email address.

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Reply #26 from Stardock Forums Top

Acrobat sandboxing prevented reliable grouping so it had to be excluded.

Reply #27 from Stardock Forums Top

Had the same Excel jumping problem in Excel 2016 on 1.02, just installed 1.10 ... and fingers crossed it hasn't had a problem in 10 mins.

Almost exclusively occurred with big Excel files, but as you say was somewhat random when it occurred (usually when I trusted it enough to stop watching :)

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Reply #28 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting basj, reply 23

BTW, I just got notified that a new version of Groupy is due very soon. Which address a lot of things including excel.
End of basj's quote

 

Hi basj

Were you referring to v1.10 which was just released as final non-beta?

It still has the same problem with Excel protected view. Don't know yet about the focus jumping problem.

 

But it introduces a new bug with Powerpoint files in protected view. Error message upon opening: 

Microsoft PowerPoint We're sorry, something went wrong that might rnake PowerPoint unstable. Please save your presentations and restart PowerPoint

Have to use Task Manager to close Powerpoint.

Reply #29 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting vincentnfc, reply 28


Quoting basj,
reply 23

BTW, I just got notified that a new version of Groupy is due very soon. Which address a lot of things including excel.



 

Hi basj

Were you referring to v1.10 which was just released as final non-beta?

It still has the same problem with Excel protected view. Don't know yet about the focus jumping problem.

 

But it introduces a new bug with Powerpoint files in protected view. Error message upon opening: 

Microsoft PowerPoint <br/>We're sorry, something went wrong that might rnake PowerPoint unstable. Please save your presentations and restart PowerPoint

Have to use Task Manager to close Powerpoint.

End of vincentnfc's quote

The latest should be 1.11

Reply #31 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello,

Did you check what the version installed in Groupy itself? (3 dot menu -> setting -> Groupy->About). If it still version 1.10 please turn on Automatically check for updates. Try that and let us know.

Reply #32 from Stardock Forums Top

It's on (also tried turning it off and back), it's never worked for me ("No updates for Groupy have been found"), I have had to always download it from my account

Reply #33 from Stardock Forums Top

So did you get it? From your account? v1.11?

Reply #35 from Stardock Forums Top

Please post what it say on your Groupy itself?

Reply #37 from Stardock Forums Top

I asked cause sometimes. The one on the groupy is different than the one listed on the ODM

Reply #38 from Stardock Forums Top

I believe 1.11 is internal only right now.

Reply #40 from Stardock Forums Top

Groupy 1.1 is totally unusable with Powerpoint in protected mode ... until v1.11 is available I have no choice but to revert to v1.02.

Reply #41 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting vincentnfc, reply 40

Groupy 1.1 is totally unusable with Powerpoint in protected mode ... until v1.11 is available I have no choice but to revert to v1.02.
End of vincentnfc's quote

Unfortunately in testing we were unable to reproduce any issues with Powerpoint in protected mode.  As such 1.11 is liable to remain an issue for you.

Reply #42 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 41


Quoting vincentnfc,
reply 40

Groupy 1.1 is totally unusable with Powerpoint in protected mode ... until v1.11 is available I have no choice but to revert to v1.02.



Unfortunately in testing we were unable to reproduce any issues with Powerpoint in protected mode.  As such 1.11 is liable to remain an issue for you.

End of Neil's quote

 

That's strange that you can't reproduce the issue. I have the exact same error message on 2 different PCs, one running Windows 8.1 and the other Windows 10, when I open a Powerpoint file that is attached to an email in Outlook or from a network shared folder. 

 

Any other users encountering this problem?

Reply #43 from Stardock Forums Top

Thank you for your report. We will be looking into it.

Reply #44 from Stardock Forums Top

I have Excel from Office365.

Groupy does not work well at all with Excel. Using Shift+Drag to form groups is fine.

But using the + button to add another excel file does not work.

  1. A blank excel file opens in the group.
  2. Then the desired excel file opens in a new window. It then has to be grouped manually.
  3. All this is accompanied by a psychedelic resizing of multiple windows which gives the user a headache.

Please do sort this out.

Groupy 1.11 beta, Windows 10, office 365 (latest)

Reply #45 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting arbit12, reply 44

I have Excel from Office365.

Groupy does not work well at all with Excel. Using Shift+Drag to form groups is fine.
But using the + button to add another excel file does not work.

    1. A blank excel file opens in the group.
    1. Then the desired excel file opens in a new window. It then has to be grouped manually.
    1. All this is accompanied by a psychedelic resizing of multiple windows which gives the user a headache.

Please do sort this out.

Groupy 1.11 beta, Windows 10, office 365 (latest)

End of arbit12's quote

Hello,

Well it work well on my system.

Did you set Excel to auto group? Please view below video. https://youtu.be/YHCs5lDqnFs

Reply #46 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting arbit12, reply 44

All this is accompanied by a psychedelic resizing of multiple windows which gives the user a headache.
End of arbit12's quote

Are we to understand that your only issue with how it works is this - the 'psychedelic resizing'?

Reply #47 from Stardock Forums Top

Thanks that works partly.

Two points.

1. In the video, File>Open from an existing workbook opens the new excel and adds to group. This works the same way for me now.

However, in the video, using the + sign opens a new tab in the File>Open view. For me it opens with a blank workbook. So, to open the desired workbook by using +, there is now another step required, of going to the new blank workbook and then File>Open

2. The "psychedelic resizing" has a pattern. If the Group window is in window (non maximised) mode when a new tab is opened, there is no problem and the opening is smooth.

But if it is maximised when a new window is opened, each window first opens in the window mode and then resizes to maximum. That causes the sequence of resizings that I was referring to. 

Are these bugs or am I missing something?

Reply #48 from Stardock Forums Top

Not at all. Please see points 1 and 2 of my post.

Though the resizing is a problem by itself. There is a pattern though; refer my point 2 in the above post.

Reply #49 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting vincentnfc, reply 28

It still has the same problem with Excel protected view. Don't know yet about the focus jumping problem. 

But it introduces a new bug with PowerPoint files in protected view. Error message upon opening: 

End of vincentnfc's quote

By default, MS Office apps have protected view(s) on from anything that comes from 'the Internet'.  

With my test below, I could not reproduce what you are seeing

Win10

Outlook Client:

http://sd.stardock.com/Support/games/GC3/crashes/2018-03-19_11-51-25.mp4

Outlook Web:
http://sd.stardock.com/Support/uploads/2018-03-19_12-02-14.mp4

If I do not have the conditions correct, what you have, I need to know what I am missing.

Reply #50 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting arbit12, reply 47

Thanks that works partly.

Two points.

1. In the video, File>Open from an existing workbook opens the new excel and adds to group. This works the same way for me now.

However, in the video, using the + sign opens a new tab in the File>Open view. For me it opens with a blank workbook. So, to open the desired workbook by using +, there is now another step required, of going to the new blank workbook and then File>Open

End of arbit12's quote

Here what happening in my system.

Start Excel. you will get list of recent open file list. If you click any from the list that file will open.

if you want to open a new file, you can simply file -> open a file then a new tab open to the left of your last open files. both file are in group.

As long as you have that 3 dot menu set to automatically group excel.