adni18

Huston, I think we have a problem!!!!!

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Huston, I think we have a problem!!!!!

February 28, 2003 2:13 PM from

Jafo, I think we ALL have a problem!

I have just been informed that there is a company with the name Delphi-VCL Skin that sales the “Skin Engine” and with their product the give a huge number of skins, which means that the buyers of SkinEngine, can use those skins for having a profit with their business.

Here comes the good part of it!
The skins that they sell are all the works of known authors of WinCustomize, like Alexandrie, treetog, Mike Bryant, Grayhaze, essorant and many others.
There are no names, no credits, nothing, just an ID number of the skin.

Any one can download the skins for free, but the professionals can use them for their applications, sites etc and the have the right for the profit they will get, because the have purchase the Skin Engine!!!!!

I think this is too heavy to accept it.

I hope that our Official Layer Jafo will take care of it.

So, here something to start with Paul.

The following skin ID numbers are my skins:

0330
0294
0394
0379
0392
0177
0178
0034
0138
0377
0378
0060
0383
0353
0165
0249
0051
0203
0147
0075
0067
0030
0107
0055
0092

The link of those clever guys is:
http://www.link-rank.com/lib/lib1p.htm

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Reply #51 February 28, 2003 6:26 PM from

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Thanks David and Paul

As I see I was wrong, they have communicate with the proper and right way!
Let us see if they going to do what they have answered to DavidK

Reply #52 February 28, 2003 7:15 PM from

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His/my replies...

Pan Wen
Here is just one list by one artist for starters....skins that are his and used without consent.

0330
0294
0394
0379
0392
0177
0178
0034
0138
0377
0378
0060
0383
0353
0165
0249
0051
0203
0147
0075
0067
0030
0107
0055
0092

That is only one skinner [Adni18]

I imagine the vast majority of skins you display are not yours, and I know, through many years of association/involvement with the skinning community that NONE of the other skinners whose work you used will allow you to use their work WITHOUT first being contacted and asked.

The ONLY responsible action is to remove all the skins now, and then email individuals for permission.

Cheers,
Paul Martin
JAFO
Admin Wincustomize.com [your likely source of these skins]

-----Original Message-----
From: Pan Wen [mailto:info@link-rank.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:00 AM
To: martinp@smart.net.au
Subject: Re: Illegal use of skins.

Paul Martin

　　We will remove the skins.

best regards

Pan wen

http://www.link-rank.com
info@link-rank.com

Reply #53 February 28, 2003 7:18 PM from

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I dont see any of the skin library.....so maybe swift justice was done

Reply #54 February 28, 2003 7:19 PM from

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Oh...cool thanks Jafo

Reply #55 February 28, 2003 7:24 PM from

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The first word from the moon was not Huston but Houston.

FWIW

Reply #56 February 28, 2003 7:29 PM from

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They have removed all the skins!!!
The authors rights have win this time!

Waiting for the next

Reply #57 February 28, 2003 7:31 PM from

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Sorry Delicious, I am not a Master of English language

Reply #58 February 28, 2003 7:31 PM from

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http://www.link-rank.com/lib/lib1p.htm The entire site is gone...

Reply #59 February 28, 2003 7:32 PM from

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No, it is not gone Diane, it is here: http://www.link-rank.com

Reply #60 February 28, 2003 7:35 PM from

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Ah.... sigh, hope they do it right next time.

Reply #61 February 28, 2003 7:36 PM from

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http://www.link-rank.com

nope still there

someone ought to point Apple at them for that " MacOS Style Skin "

Reply #62 February 28, 2003 7:38 PM from

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anid

beat me to the click ! by 2 seconds

Reply #63 February 28, 2003 7:38 PM from

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IPlural
"Hell hath no fury like an Apple bitten..."

Reply #64 February 28, 2003 7:39 PM from

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oh, nope 4 minutes

Reply #65 February 28, 2003 7:41 PM from

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They still have an image of NoOS on thier front page

Reply #66 February 28, 2003 7:47 PM from

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Whoa Jafo, the doer of all things, so cool

Reply #67 February 28, 2003 8:00 PM from

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"They even ripped one of my 2 (yes, count 'em) 2 windowblinds skins."

You've got to look at it more optimistically, Werewolf!

You have a 50% ripping rate for your skins! how many other skins authors can say their skins are ripped /that/ often? (Well, save maybe Adni.

)

/me does the usual hiding thing.

Reply #68 February 28, 2003 8:09 PM from

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lol

Reply #69 February 28, 2003 8:10 PM from

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Nice work guys, their 'More Skins...' page is down.

It seems there is hope after all

Reply #70 March 1, 2003 12:36 AM from

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I didn't bother to search for any of mine.
The point of it all is that a rip of one skinner is an affront to us all.
It is each our responsibility to keep a look out for 'problems' and help put a stop to them.
It never pays to be aggressive or uptight, but simply state the reality and wait for reasoned response...

Reply #71 March 1, 2003 2:33 AM from

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good job Jafo...

im glad to see the skinners on top once again

I was tempted to send an email from the beginning... but didn't cause I thought mine have a negative effect on yours... im not a diplomat... I probably would have gotten the finger for all of us... so I stayed out of it...

but good job guys...

Reply #72 March 1, 2003 5:24 AM from

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They still seem to be including 34 skins in their downloads

http://www.link-rank.com/download.htm

I suspect stardock may be having a word with them on monday regarding some interesting similarities we noticed when we tried their skin builder.

Are they also going to contact everyone they have sold their library to, and tell them that those skins cannot be used in their applications? Otherwise you may find a number of apps appearing which use the skins without knowing that they are not allowed to without permission.

Also do we know what skins they provide to registered customers?

Reply #73 March 1, 2003 6:57 AM from

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My more recent communications...

Paul Martin

　　We have removed all skins.

best regards

Pan wen

http://www.link-rank.com
info@link-rank.com

======= 2003-03-01 11:12:00 you write：=======

>Pan Wen
>Here is just one list by one artist for starters....skins that are his and
>used without consent.
>
>0330
>0294
>0394
>0379
>0392
>0177
>0178
>0034
>0138
>0377
>0378
>0060
>0383
>0353
>0165
>0249
>0051
>0203
>0147
>0075
>0067
>0030
>0107
>0055
>0092
>
>That is only one skinner [Adni18]
>
>I imagine the vast majority of skins you display are not yours, and I know,
>through many years of association/involvement with the skinning community
>that NONE of the other skinners whose work you used will allow you to use
>their work WITHOUT first being contacted and asked.
>
>The ONLY responsible action is to remove all the skins now, and then email
>individuals for permission.
>
>Cheers,
>Paul Martin
>JAFO
>Admin Wincustomize.com [your likely source of these skins]

Reply #74 March 1, 2003 7:07 AM from

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At least they weren't buttheads about it

Reply #75 March 1, 2003 7:11 AM from

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Most recent communication from me...

Pan Wen

Thankyou for your prompt action.

If you wish to locate and obtain permissions for these works you can always post a request on the Message Board at www.wincustomize.com
and the Skinners involved will be able to respond and/or contact you, etc.

Thankyou once again.
Cheers,
Paul Martin
JAFO
Admin Wincustomize.com

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