I support Brad 100% with him deleting posts. He has every right to keep this site I nice place for the community. What many people fail to realize is the first ammendment is a protection of being censored by the government. Private organizations have every right to censor speach and to keep things running smoothly on websites and such.

I'm still wondering whether I would have had the balls to delete this thread had I seen it first, before other respondents.
'Fascist' would have been less objectionable than 'Nazi'. It isn't just a case of semantics....maybe I'm just old enough to know the difference.
Had I deleted it, I would simply have suggested to l0c to reword it.

The policy on Wincustomize.com is zero tolerance on personal attack, slander, libel, warez....and other 'obvious' transgressions of moral decency.

That probably means this thread will go. Hmm, I hadn't even read the news post yet. By the way, how would you know who deleted the newspost?

/me cuts everyone some slack

While I won't delve into the issue or right or wrong on either of the issues involved, it saddens me to see so many of these type "battles" going on within this "community". Has this type of stuff been going on for years and I just haven't seen it yet, as I'm a newcomer?

Now I see why it's hard for newbies like myself to get comments, advice or encouragement when I post a skin. Obviously the elders of our community are too busy on the message boards to be able to download a skin and offer someone some advice or encouragement.

David, ESP is really a pretty mellow skin. Traffic is a little loud for my tastes, but I thought that it displays a GREAT sense of humor. Really made me smile.
Are you planning on doing any skins optimized for XP? I am running XP Wood at home, and Forest XP at work and I have really developed a taste for them.
As to the number of battles going on, I just posted a thread called War Of Words. It is not just our community that is tense. The attack on the WTC, the attacks against Afganistan, the uncertain economy, I think we are all on edge.
Peace, love and skinning to all.

I guess l0c knows he went over the line this time, his silence is stunning.

Brad Wardell a Nazi? Committed atrocity? Wow. He must be pretty old. I wonder if he was at Auschwitz or Dachau?

Please, please, please don't turn this place into a flame board like Customize, Skinz, and Deviantart. I thought this is where the adults come to play.

well. stardock owns this site. all companies by defineation is dictorship. as in facists. but not in "bad" way its just how companies work.

btw nazi does offend me however.

Never saw the news posting. So no idea who was justified doing what. Maybe deletion was warranted, maybe it wasn't.

Maybe none of you have ever called anyone else a f*ckhead, or a$$hole; lord knows i have. point is, to the person you're using that term to, it's usually construed as being quite offensive. Probably moreso than hearing secondhand a third party being called a nazi.

so, to me, you're all being hypocrites... unless you've -really- never called anyone a f*ckhead (or insert your own favorite curse..).

When I combine the contents of this thread plus the "we love brad" thread right below it, i get the impression of a large herd of grass eating sheep, or, in more offensive (but apparently more politically correct than calling all of you nazis) terms, a buncha pollitically correct asslickers...

This has been a very depressing return to the skinning scene. Like a groundhog, guess winter's not over yet... someone wake me up when we go back to 98, k?

Er...Hi, Shog...

hi jafo. observers are good things to have...

for the record, both of my folks were in concentration camps; 3 of my grandparents died in them. So sod off on that track, even before you start.

(not you, jafo - just kinda pre-responding to others..)

Yes - don't you dare respond to the famous Shoggot. He's the king of the skinning scene. He'll tell us what to do.

When you sit and type a message, you have time to think and reflect on what you are going to say. Some people obviously don't realise the difference between shouting an insult, and strongly disagreeing with someone's point of view.

Hypocrite - The single most overused word on any messageboard.

Just the day I use his name in a thread he shows up! It's as if I cast a spell.
Hi mista Shog man!

Now lets sit back and see what kind of reactions this Blast from the Past is gonna make. Hey, crae is there any of that pop corn left?

hey there shog.....you prolly don't remeber me, but I remember you

...anyway.....i'm off to raise up the 'good FB'thread

Yes, Shog....I had an Uncle who survived [sort of] Changi.....marched alone on Anzac days.....cos he was the only one who did...

Crae,
Earlier you asked how it was known that it was Brad who deleted the news item? He said in the post that if nobody objected, he was going to delete it. Nobody posted anything, so he deleted it (due to the content that aouldn't be proved true). I didn't see the post myself, but I heard that from a couple different sources.

We also have to keep in mind that the site is "owned" by Stardock. If there is slander on this site, Stardock could get sued. The censorship is a necessary evil. Nobody likes to go through a lawsuit!

who's dat shog guy???

Hi Daddy! hehe

Sup Shoggy?

Mmmkay, so basically all this has started (or the final drop, si tu veux), because the newspost was deleted, 10c didn't know why and thought it had something to do with him. Deleting a thread is one way of stating that such behaviour is not acceptable, but causes confusion. Perhaps another way would be to do what jark did over at DevArt with this thread's twin brother, close it off, so that no comments can be made. Perhaps then, after a day or so, you can safely delete the post and assume those involved know why it is gone.

/me passes Paxx the popcorn (who's that Shog guy?)

/me wonders where Froggy is? I've been waiting for the "Novel" that is surely about to come! hehe

either he is on vacation or very upset and/or finally realized he should not let other ppl's opinions or words effect him at all cuz "He" knows who "He" is

All right, I confess, I did call Shog a dickhead once. But, that was a long long time ago when he hated ICQ+

Hiya Shog

"When I combine the contents of this thread plus the "we love brad" thread right below it, i get the impression of a large herd of grass eating sheep, or, in more offensive (but apparently more politically correct than calling all of you nazis) terms, a buncha pollitically correct asslickers..." - Shoggot

I take it for you name calling is an accepted practice. Far be it for you to actually say something nice about a person. No, I am not ass kissing. Brad is my Friend and I am not going to sit back and watch others defame his character.

Doing the "right" thing is usually harder than taken the easy way out. Judging by your words I doubt doing the "right" thing, or doing anything nice is an foreign act for you.

Shoggot, please tell me why is it so wrong to tell the good side about people and its completely ok to call people names and tell lies about a person!?

And I am offended by your remark calling me an AssKisser! Yes, you did not say me by name, but I created that thread and by association that is what you called me.

I only call him Dad, but who knows he may interpet it as some sort of curse word? hehe

T-man I doubt he meant that directly to you, but not sure =/

In my opinion, defending a good friend is hardly asslicking. On the other hand, if somebody defended this site's owner to gain good favors from him or from this site's community in general, then that would be asslicking. I'm not implying anybody did, but if they did, that's what it would be.