2 Games?

So, I have been poking in here every now and then to read the dev journals and I am wondering why they are making 2 games? Doesn't it go, complete game then sequel or game number two. From what I have read about FE I am not really liking some of it. I like micromanagement and dynasty building and having to focus on my cities while fighting wars, but it seems as if they are cutting all the micromanagement out for a more streamlined game; which makes me think the Warhammer 40k games, which I like because I bought it to be an action rts and not an indepth 4x game.

 

Why not make good on WOM and then focus on the second game? I am just wondering.

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Reply #1 Top

Can't polish a turd,

Reply #2 Top

Can I get my money back then?

Reply #3 Top

E-mail sales@stardock.com and ask. You might, if you bought the game early enough. Not sure anymore though, but it's worth a shot if you want. Of course you can't keep the game and get your money back, so you'll lose the game(s).

And how do you know about this extreme streamlining, when there is quite little info about FE out there. There's nothing to indicate that it's not an in-depth 4x game yet.

Reply #4 Top

You have a point, but I just want the inclusion of micromanagement features that is the problem with some modern strategy games they're for the ADD generation.

 

How is the memory leaking and everything on the game now? I haven't got the play the new patch yet, I am just curious if I can finally play on the graphical map when my PC met the specs all along.

 

Why can I only download up to patch 1.2a through Impulse?

Reply #5 Top

YOu won't get your money back, those days are long gone.

 

You are getting the next game for free though if you bought it early enough.  Absolute worst case you're getting a discount on the new game.

 

My curiousity is what will happen with the 3rd game in the series- though that will depend on how good FE is.  I really want it to be 64-bit game.

 

 

 

Reply #6 Top

Polishing a game that's going to sit there with a rating of 4.0 is bad business.

New game. New review.

Reply #7 Top

I can see why they are trying to support both, so that WoM ends up as a more respectable product,, but ultimately I don’t think any of us want two games and have to decide which one to play because they like some of the features in one and some in another.

We still don’t know too much about FE. People say it will be more focused and more story driven, but so far I’m not really seeing what WoM features will be missing. Obviously dynasties have gone, but that was a sensible decision regardless. Without succession dynasties were always going to be a non-starter. I’d be happy to see them again, but only if they can be done properly.

So other than that, I can’t imagine many significant features being cut. Unit Design? Tactical combat? Tech Research? Spell Research? Adventuring? Resources? What would be the point?

While I can see how things like city building could be done a lot more simply, I want that for WoM anyway (and I’ve already spoken a lot about how this, and population growth can be made both easier to manage, whilst behaving better and made more realistic).

So far I like the look of FE a lot. It appears to be like WoM but without fiddly dynasties or citizens, but WITH unique locations, powerful monsters, fire swords and animated cutscenes. But I can’t see why it can’t continue to pursue WoM’s goal of being “one game to rule them all.” That’s the whole point of the game. If I wanted to play an rpg with strategy elements there are plenty of other games like that out there. I don’t think there is anyone out there who’s brain is exploding from the idea of designing his units or researching tech. We just want what we have to work better and get a few new bells and whistles. So why not do that with FE.

Reply #8 Top

Keep in mind that, so far, all marketing announcements have showcased how FE is different from WoM.

While we're not wasting much breath on their similarities, E:FE will be a natural progression of streamlining and improving Elemental, and at it's core it IS still Elemental (4x city building, exploring, expanding, battling, etc).

So don't worry about us flipping from Fantasy 4x to RTS or something ;)

Reply #9 Top

Quoting BoogieBac, reply 8
Keep in mind that, so far, all marketing announcements have showcased how FE is different from WoM. While we're not wasting much breath on their similarities, it will be a natural progression of streamlining and improving Elemental, and at it's core it IS still elemental (4x city building, exploring, expanding, battling, etc).

So don't worry about us flipping from Fantasy 4x to RTS or something
End of BoogieBac's quote

 

Notice he didn't mention about flipping from Fantasy 4x to FPS....hmmm....

 

Reply #10 Top

Quoting impinc, reply 9
 

Notice he didn't mention about flipping from Fantasy 4x to FPS....hmmm....

 
End of impinc's quote


 

I was just about to say the same thing... a gritty FPS with a brown color filter. It could still happen. 

Reply #11 Top

FE is sounding a lot more realistic in its objectives. WoM basically started where most games finish up - full of features. The only trouble with adding features without the benefit of game evolution is that you run the risk of not getting it all right. That's what happened with WoM. I think the approach of simplifying some of the dog areas in WoM for FE is a good call. I'm looking forward to it but don't want to get overly excited yet until we can see how the game handles tactical combat and research and over-all balance.

Reply #12 Top

Maybe I am looking for something that is like a good mix of Civilization, Europa Univeralis, and Ceaser all set in a fantasy universe.. Which is why I redownloaded MoM and got all the fan patches and everything. Still a great game all of these years later.

Reply #13 Top

Quoting BoogieBac, reply 8
Keep in mind that, so far, all marketing announcements have showcased how FE is different from WoM.

While we're not wasting much breath on their similarities, E:FE will be a natural progression of streamlining and improving Elemental, and at it's core it IS still Elemental (4x city building, exploring, expanding, battling, etc).

So don't worry about us flipping from Fantasy 4x to RTS or something
End of BoogieBac's quote

Very reassuring, thankyou.

Reply #14 Top

I just hope that FE falls flat so I can get the third game free too! That might be troll logic... I'll get back to you.

Reply #15 Top

Quoting seanw3, reply 14
I just hope that FE falls flat so I can get the third game free too! That might be troll logic... I'll get back to you.
End of seanw3's quote

If there's two bad games in a row from the same series, why would you even want another one?

Hell, why would they make another one? At that point it'd make more sense to admit that the "Elemental" brand isn't going anywhere and it's time to move on.

A game studio can only put out so many bad releases before people start distrusting it. WoM is Stardock's mulligan, there will be long term damage to the company brand value if they screw the pooch on FE.