The Disappearing Male

CBC documentary

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7530701744597358451#
from Sins Forums

The Disappearing Male is a CBC documentary about one of the most important, and least publicized, issues facing the human species: the toxic threat to the male reproductive system. The last few decades have seen steady and dramatic increases in the incidence of boys and young men suffering from genital deformities, low sperm count, sperm abnormalities and testicular cancer. At the same time, boys are now far more at risk of suffering from ADHD, autism, Tourette's syndrome, cerebral palsy, and dyslexia.

The Disappearing Male takes a close and disturbing look at what many doctors and researchers now suspect are responsible for many of these problems: a class of common chemicals that are ubiquitous in our world. Found in everything from shampoo, sunglasses, meat and dairy products, carpet, cosmetics and baby bottles, they are called "hormone mimicking" or "endocrine disrupting" chemicals and they may be starting to damage the most basic building blocks of human development.

 

I love documentarys, but this one scared me. 

Another that people need to see is "The Corporation". Most people I know don't have the attention span for a documentary, let alone a 3 hour one but it is a must see.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

So man has dominated man thru corporations rather than government

plus those corporations are creating products that are harming the world

meh, typical man

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

Hey I don't have any of those FUCK SHIT DAMMIT HELL what was I saying I don't remember and I couldn't watch all of that cause it was way too long and stuff and DAMN BITCH SHIT I couldn't concentrate on it lol like concentrate in orange juice when it says concentrate but it really means there's nasty crap in it and that's really gross DAMMIT.

 

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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Don't mind, humans are like rats they always survive :grin:

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

I call shenanigans. 

 

First of all, everything is killing us.  The sun is killing us.  Statistics are arbitrary.  How are we going to compare any of this nonsense to people 300 years ago? 500 years?  1000 years?  That's right, we can't.  Leastways not accurately.  It's like those fat loss commercials where they say "This increases body fat loss compared to that OTHER supplement we USED to sell by 20%!!"  Hey, know what 20% of ZERO is?  That's right, it's zero.

 

As for the increased occurence of these HORRIBLE DEFORMITIES... I have ADHD.  Like, the real one, not the crap people throw around because they want to dope up their kids from ages 4-18.

 

It's hardly debilitating.  If anything, I think life would be incredibly dull without it. I was put on meds once, it was like the world was suddenly made black and white.  It was awful.  Not taking those was one of the best decisions of my life.  I can have 7 thoughts about 17 different subjects in the course of a minute, and nearly every one is worthwhile in some way.  It's like having a room full of doors, and each one leads to something interesting.

Does it make concentrating on certain tasks more difficult?  Hell yes it does.  But with each virtue a vice, eh?  It may take me three times as long as other teachers to grade papers, but I make up for it with a greater appreciation of the complexity of life, or at least that's how I choose to interpret it.

 

Loss of... hell, loss of anything, HA.  Nonsense.  Arbitrary bullshit.

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Rhelamos, reply 4
I call shenanigans. 

 

First of all, everything is killing us.  The sun is killing us.  Statistics are arbitrary.  How are we going to compare any of this nonsense to people 300 years ago? 500 years?  1000 years?  That's right, we can't.  Leastways not accurately.  It's like those fat loss commercials where they say "This increases body fat loss compared to that OTHER supplement we USED to sell by 20%!!"  Hey, know what 20% of ZERO is?  That's right, it's zero.

 

As for the increased occurence of these HORRIBLE DEFORMITIES... I have ADHD.  Like, the real one, not the crap people throw around because they want to dope up their kids from ages 4-18.

 

It's hardly debilitating.  If anything, I think life would be incredibly dull without it. I was put on meds once, it was like the world was suddenly made black and white.  It was awful.  Not taking those was one of the best decisions of my life.  I can have 7 thoughts about 17 different subjects in the course of a minute, and nearly every one is worthwhile in some way.  It's like having a room full of doors, and each one leads to something interesting.

Does it make concentrating on certain tasks more difficult?  Hell yes it does.  But with each virtue a vice, eh?  It may take me three times as long as other teachers to grade papers, but I make up for it with a greater appreciation of the complexity of life, or at least that's how I choose to interpret it.

 

Loss of... hell, loss of anything, HA.  Nonsense.  Arbitrary bullshit.
End of Rhelamos's quote

Now I wish I had real ADHD because then I could have 7 thoughts about 17 different subjects in the course of 60 seconds. That would be awesome.

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

He's lucky he merely has ADHD.  I was first diagnosed with ADHD (have some symptoms), but eventually they figured out I had Asperger's.  My mind can go a mile a minute like his, and I can also do Cylon-like projection on a limited scale thanks to my weaker grip on reality than most people.  Combine those two and you get a guy who not only can't think the same thought for ten seconds, you get a guy who's lost in his own skull half the time while he thinks ten thoughts in 15 seconds.

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

More often than not, people don't care or are too stupid to care, about the side effects of stuff like this. v_v

Makes one wonder whether or not they've been affected by this, (also kinda makes me eager for lawsuit :grin: )  Furthermore, stuff like this might become more common in the future... although, in theory we could repair any damage via genetic engineering, but I think that the damage caused by this will outpace anything short of prevention we can do to stop it.

Xer0 \^/

Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top

Well this also seems to only affect the portion of society that can afford the bulk of the mentioned products. As a result the study should tie with another and should be retitled the disappearing white male. Now I know other races are affected as well, but current studies show that while white Birth rates decrease Latino and african amercian communites are on the rise.

Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top

On a side note...who is eating the shampoo?

Reply #10 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Altaux, reply 9
On a side note...who is eating the shampoo?
End of Altaux's quote

Its not just what you eat.

Ever heard of a nicotine patch. Ever get a headache from paint fumes. We are not just guinea pigs for these chemicals but now genetically altered foods as well. How many times have drugs been passed eventually being pulled for killing us. We are lab rats. But we are "free" to go live in another cage.

Reply #11 from Sins Forums Top

Loss of... hell, loss of anything, HA. Nonsense. Arbitrary bullshit.
End of quote

It is important to remember that just because the potential effects of something are unknown, that doesn't mean that there is no risk involved.

If statistics are as meaningless as you claim, then we should be MORE worried about the effects on our health precisely because we don't know. If we don't know that chemicals may interfere with male development, then we should be determined to find out, not simply laugh it off.

The vast majority of chemicals in household appliances have never been tested for toxicity because such tests are very time-consuming and cost money. Many chemicals do not cause immediate effects to the body, some may actually influence the way that genes are expressed and this influences the life expectancy not only of yourself, but of your children.

 

Reply #12 from Sins Forums Top

I know its not just what you eat, but the only way I see shampoo affecting anything other than your scalp is if you eat it.

Reply #13 from Sins Forums Top

Chemicals can be absorbed through the skin.

 

I don't question the toxicity of anything.  EVERYTHING is toxic.  God, every second of life is a fight for survival.  I question the thought that we're so bad off and can only expect terrible things in the future.

We're bad off compared to what?  To people in the past?  Societies wherein if you weren't married and having kids by 20, you were missing the boat because you expected to live till 50?  Is this chemical doomsday comparing itself to this past?

Toxic?  If we want to talk toxic, how about the water quality in London in the 18th and 19th centuries?  The damned sewage lines (if you can call them that) flowed into the Thames, which was also the source of drinking water.  Screw shampoo, how about some feces water every day?  It's like those absurd people with the bottled water: boy that tap water must be SOOOOO unhealthy for you...

We seem to have this romanticized idea that humans can only improve, that we SHOULD be able to live a thousand bloody years without a care in the world. We have never had this, we never will.

I don't disagree with the information being correct or not.  It may very well be, though I question the accuracy of everything.  Hell, let's say it is true!  It doesn't make it important.  My main point of disagreement is in our caring so much about any of it.  It's pointless.  If we aren't being poisoned by toxic water we're being done in by chemicals in shampoo or cell phone cancer.  There will ALWAYS be something killing us.

 

God help us if we should ever create a world so boring where there ISN'T anything trying to kill us...

Reply #14 from Demigod Forums Top

I must’ve been told to watch the corporation 2 or 3 times this month already. Why do noobs assume this infamous piece of cinema, winner of numerous awards and 10 years old, is somehow flying under the radar? Ha.

Reply #15 from Sins Forums Top

Answer me this:  Why would an author publish a book lamenting the 2012 apocalypse?

 

Yeah you think about that for a while.

 

And before anyone asks, why yes it absolutely does have something to do with this topic of conversation.  Follow the thread my friends, follow the thread. (Pun)