New Demigods

No, the fact that they will be released to some RTP players for beta testing first and for the public later has been known for a while now.

Demigod: Start of September Status Report

So as some of you know, Demigod v1.2 is in private beta.  On other games that we have published, such betas have been available to the public but with Demigod, this tends to split the MP community.

So here is where things are at:

 

The New Demigods

The two new free Demigods are being worked on. The art assets appear done but they still have to be scripted, tested, and hooked up.  I had hoped to see these by the end of August in time for PAX but as with many things in game development, things can take longer than expected.

 

Do u have a snickers 4 me?

Err, what? What does this comment have to do with your topic and why do you want a Snickers.

I think he meant to express his frustrations for the way others express their frustrations for the long wait for the new Demigods.

Sure, but it's a bit pointless. But as already mentioned, it has been known quite for a while now, that the Demigods will not be released with v1.2 directly. Only the DLC system will be implemented with that patch and after that, the Demigods will be released via Ready To Play for beta testing and after that for everyone.

And the reason why has already been discussed in one or more other threads.

because GPG is so unbelievable fast in everything they do for us, the community will be near end when they ll release these things to the public.

what is a realistic release date ? Xmas ? New Years Eve ?.......common its enough, these things are just 2 heros, no pyramid, no freedom tower, no starcraft 2 !!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

You need to chill. GPG isnt blizzard, they dont have unlimited ressources. Alot of people obviously don't understand how a business works.

Sadly, too many people are used to instant gratification. None of these complaints are very justified yet... perhaps around the 1 year mark, but not yet. Just a bunch of kids who didn't get their cookies after their chef prepared filet mignon steak.

I want to give you my 2 Cent for releasing Demigods step by step, too. From my experience with DotA I can tell you that new heroes are always "overpowered" except they are really weak. So when a new DotA version contains one or more new heroes they are always "stronger" than the old heroes, because nobody is used to play against them. Even if you read the abilitys (like you can in Demigod forum too) you will get owned, because ingame experience is worth a lot more. To get used to play against new heroes it takes in DotA normally 1-2 weeks.
But in demigod it will be a lot more time, because: 1) You can't test the heroes against AI/solo to get a feeling for graphics/aoe/damage 2) Not everone will read the forum to know the skills, especially when they can't play and try them after that.
The result will be that Frogboy and friends will get lot of wins. And it will take a lot more time to see matches where everbody knows the demigods, so these can be used for balance the demigods.
Personally I would it handle like icefrog. Step 1 internal testing with players that really know the game. Step 2 release to public that will show some strats nobody thought about. No steps needed between.

 

LOL

I think u dont know how business works. Tell me how to make money??? This way???

How many players have left community? How many players could have bought new content?

Nobody knows how many games would have been sold after release, if network had worked well.

In my opinion this game is the best example for how not to earn money.

QFT

but this words are wasted as here are only two type of people left:

1. ignorant fanboys,

2. addicted players so stupid to still remain and would throw more money to companies that are treating them so bad, only to see this game evolving

 

me being one of the stupid people in point 2.

 

edit: the others left

LOL CelMare!

Izibaar:

You cant play against AI/solo??? Excuse me but there is a button that says "Singleplayer" in the main menu.....

Do you play Demigod or you just confused this forum site with some other game??

He meant playtesting a new Demigod in Singleplayer is futile, because playtesting it against the AI is not a representative test for their actual use and thus won't give you any useful feedback.

So? with every demigod some time u have to play him in multiplayer and then u can learn him. There hasnt been invented any real Artificial Intelligence that can imitate humans yet.

The new DG's were being touted back before the game released.  Eight months later, I'd be hard pressed to call it a cry for 'instant gratification.'

Horribly inarticulate?  Sure.  Impatient?  I think most of the people still here have put in more than enough time to drop that label.

Err, yes, that is the point... you thought he didn't know that there was a single player mode, while he actually meant that playing against the AI isn't useful for playtesting.

Yes indeed. But you would test the new demigod eventually.

You cant learn if you dont lose first. I always say that you learn more from a loss than from a win.

Will everyone please leave this alone

I mean ffs grow up and wait you impatient gits

Basically you need to test the new DGs against the old ones. If you give everyone the new ones at the same time you'll have very little of that. I'm sure Demon Assassin mirror matches are very well balanced without our testing.

No that isn't what I meant too Could have used more words for that point.

If you want to learn something about a (new) demigod/hero then it is a good idea to start a single player match. There is no problem to stay 5 minutes at your base and read all skills and think about a build you want to try. A no go in multiplayer games! And you can level up and take your 5 mins again to read and think every time you want. When the AI get destroys your base, because you are just reading instead of fighting - no problem it is a single player game. Just restart.

But mainly you get a feeling about the demigod and his timing, weaknesses and strengths. It is completly different to play a demigod and to see someone else playing it. This is the reason the new demigods will be stronger than the old ones until everyone can play them.

An idea to avoid this problem would be to allow everybody to play them in single player as early as possible. This way they would avoid the "new demigod only" games too.

They have not unlimited resources but they also do not use them wisely. When you look at the patches for Demigod you will see that there have been some very annoying bugs that could be easily fixed but were not for a long time. This is simply stupid from GPG as it damages the reputation.

Actually there is a solution if a company has not the money for extensive support. This is called modding. Though GPG also made this impossible although this could helped very much. I have seen this in Civilization IV. There Firaxis allowed modding with scripts like in Demigod and finally even shared the source code (!) of the game so every aspect of the game could be changed. So the community created much material like mods, enhancements of the main game and bug fixes. Firaxis then took the best of that and integrated it into the official version of the game. So they got much valuable material for free that could be added to that what their coders did.

If you look here at the forum you will see that here also some users are floating around that could do such stuff also for Demigod. For example the threads of mrappard show that also the Demigod community has some skilled modders around. When GPG would have opend the modding earlier we probably would have additional Demigods and maps since months from the community.

GPG simply lacks the cleverness other companies including Blizzard has. IMO Stardock is here much cleverer as they put more focus on support. Though it is here very common to bash Stardock for everything they are not that one responsible for the mess. That is GPG. In contrary Stardock does much more than I would have expected from a publisher. If this game would have published from EA for example Demigod would be dead since months as there would not have been any support.  

i mostly agree with you Donnervogel, but SD is responsable for the Dmigod site. And this one is even more a mess than the game itself. i have sent reports for some of its issues and never got any answer except for the automatic one. this is my first game bought over impulse and up till now SD showed me less support than EA (i avoid EA).

so indeed, Demigod is GPGs mess, the Site and it's support is SD ones.

Perfect world should allways be perfect.

/sarcasm

Things happen, Things dont, people stay, people leave.

Enjoy your moments, imagine a life with out demigod.

I believe my brain developed an aneurism while attempting to process all that is wrong with this post.

Yeah, I originally said some very mean things. I'm sorry. Just: lern2spellz+grammerz, and learn to use the search function.