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Standard Options for games

August 15, 2009 8:11:49 PM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

What do you guys feel should be the standard options for casual, fun, and competitive games?

Personally i feel the default options are a little slow, i like to go fast spawn rate and high minion damage for faster games, but what do you guys use?, what do you feel is mor fun? and what do you think should be the standard for competitive play?

 

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LordCarlos
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Reply #1 August 15, 2009 8:24:02 PM
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Default.

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Reply #2 August 15, 2009 8:26:33 PM
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I screw around with high towers on occasion but "Normal" is generally fine by me.  It strikes me as a good competitive pace and there's enough time for a game to have some action without dragging on too long.

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Reply #3 August 15, 2009 8:35:17 PM
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I play with towers on high too; it just seems right when I use that setting.  Towers seem to become cardboard at around level 8-10, and who wants to spend thousands to upgrade towers so it just takes a couple extra seconds to knock them down.  But online, I just stick with Normal so I don't confuse people.  The normal speed is about right for me

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Reply #4 August 15, 2009 8:47:06 PM
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Personally i feel the default options are a little slow

u should try high towers + warscore low. now THAT is slow.

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Reply #5 August 15, 2009 8:57:20 PM
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Quoting RapierX,
reply 1
Default.

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Reply #6 August 15, 2009 9:01:39 PM
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u should try high towers + warscore low. now THAT is slow.

i played one with warscore low, and it was torture untill i decide to go demigod killing style and the enemy surrendered.

i spent some time playing fast speed settings in single player mode and its not that bad, maybe ill have to try that on MP. 

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Reply #7 August 15, 2009 9:17:42 PM
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I have tried fast speed on multiplayer games. What I can say about it is that you'd better make sure everyone has good ping in the game as it's otherwise very hard to react to very rapidly changing situations in the middle of a fight. Noticing that in the beginning, I went for a full minion Queen of Thorns and simply let the AI do my work with minimal input. It worked out pretty well. However, it's not a setting I would want to play again as it's just too fast for meaningful long term decision making.

Default for me too.

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Reply #8 August 15, 2009 9:32:29 PM
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I typically go with default settings for competitive play.  My opinion is that competitive games should all be using the same settings.  For instance, if I go 1v1 and allow for no favor items, I might have an immediate advantage as most are used to having favor.  I figure the same rules apply for any other type of match.

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Reply #9 August 15, 2009 9:44:56 PM
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well i was asking actually under the assumption that there dosent exist a competitive scene in the game, so i was thinking it was still time to change the standard competitive options.

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Reply #10 August 16, 2009 1:16:46 AM
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Quoting ZehDon,
reply 5



Quoting RapierX,
reply 1
Default.

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Reply #11 August 16, 2009 2:07:55 AM
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well i was asking actually under the assumption that there dosent exist a competitive scene in the game, so i was thinking it was still time to change the standard competitive options.

none of us play competitively.  You hit the nail on the head.

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Reply #12 August 16, 2009 4:19:01 AM
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Quoting RapierX,
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Default.
I like default.

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Reply #13 August 16, 2009 5:13:32 AM
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default has no meaning at all

the must is tower high, optionally a bit higher gold or slower war score isnt bad but not necessary

 

towers normal is not playable

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Reply #14 August 16, 2009 5:21:47 AM
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Towers at normal allows them to be overcome fairly easily at about level 5-6, in turn allowing both sides to face off more often. Towers High with Gold or Spawn set to High pretty much just encourages people to hide behind their Towers until they can afford Ring of the All-Father. If I wanted to play a game where the idea was to avoid contact with the opposition until we're all max gear and max level I'd go back to playing DotA, where actually fighting your enemy is considered a n00b mistake.

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Reply #15 August 16, 2009 6:41:22 AM
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Quoting ZehDon,
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Towers at normal allows them to be overcome fairly easily at about level 5-6, in turn allowing both sides to face off more often. Towers High with Gold or Spawn set to High pretty much just encourages people to hide behind their Towers until they can afford Ring of the All-Father. If I wanted to play a game where the idea was to avoid contact with the opposition until we're all max gear and max level I'd go back to playing DotA, where actually fighting your enemy is considered a n00b mistake.

 

you have no clue what you are talking about

 

tower high just counters the total lame ass full pet tactic of erebus and oak

 

thats the main point, another point is that tower will stand up more than 3 lvls

 

and the game will be more strategic being the towers upgrades in the citadel a "viable" option, same as gear and troops

 

with all default like i told 12431242141 times there is ONLY 1 option: troops

you HAVE TO buy them, and then the gear on your char willl be the usual default 4 5 cheap starting items

 

no fun, no strategy, and generals are OP

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Reply #16 August 16, 2009 7:10:52 AM
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you have no clue what you are talking about

gunna have to agree here Zehdon. i will not hide behind a tower like a little girl, even if towers are set to high.

and plz dont make references to dota, you dont have enough insight to talk about it.

 

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Reply #17 August 16, 2009 7:47:39 AM
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...tower high just counters the total lame ass full pet tactic of erebus and oak


thats the main point...

Stacked, are you really agreeing with this?

And I'll make references to DotA where needed. Such as now; In DotA, the opening levels of the game are spent watching the action staying close enough to get XP but not close enough to join in. Engaging your opponents at this point of the game is considered poor man's work. In Demigod, the opening levels are spent in contest for the flags - fighting creeps and the opposition - however when the towers come down, the fights open up and the game expands. Placing the Towers on High needlessly extends the early stage of the game.

I'd rather fight people than stationary, AI controlled Towers.

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Reply #18 August 16, 2009 8:01:04 AM
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the game opens...but mainly for general with OP minions at 0 cost

 

and you dont fight ai controlled towers you fight other players IN A SCENARIO THAT MATTERS

not a scenario where you can TOTALLY IGNORE towers cause they are useless

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Reply #19 August 16, 2009 8:56:13 AM
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Towers are, at best, a diversion and a method of control in the early game. They are not supposed to win the game for you. If the best reason you have for High Towers is because you think Generals are OP, then I'm writing off your entire opinion on the matter.

I like to play with High Towers when we increase the starting gold or starting level, as it helps them scale a bit better with the increased early damage. Maxing everything out is also a lot of fun, but hardly what I'd like to see as the normal game rules.

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Reply #20 August 16, 2009 8:58:52 AM
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no, i already explain that playing with tower normal makes a whole part of the game MEANINGLESS

 

a strategy game succed when all his elements are viable option or part of tactics

 

with tower normal you can IGNORE towers upgrade AND ignore the existance of towers when fighting

 

the strategy game just fails, stop and think 10 sec about it and you will realize... eventually

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Reply #21 August 16, 2009 9:09:10 AM
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I like to play with High Towers when we increase the starting gold or starting level, as it helps them scale a bit better with the increased early damage.

giving free gold doesnt mean it scales better at all, it just helps the noobies get a better start and creates more imbalances.

Stacked, are you really agreeing with this?

yes i am, have u came up against a good erebus minion and oak strategy? no, you havent.

And I'll make references to DotA where needed. Such as now; In DotA, the opening levels of the game are spent watching the action staying close enough to get XP but not close enough to join in.

you are 100% wrong man, sorry.

 

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Reply #22 August 16, 2009 9:15:58 AM
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The only part of the minion build that was OP was the Horn of Battle. With its temporary removal from the game, I see no reason to play anything but the default settings for a competitive game.

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Reply #23 August 16, 2009 9:21:52 AM
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you dont see... thats absolutely true

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Reply #24 August 16, 2009 9:25:12 AM
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you dont see... thats absolutely true

Because there's nothing to see. You haven't said anything that hasn't been refuted, whether it be here or in another thread. There's no point in arguing with you unless you bring something new to the table. So far, you haven't.

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Reply #25 August 16, 2009 9:41:33 AM
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Because there's nothing to see. You haven't said anything that hasn't been refuted,

 

its the exact opposite

 

the FACT is that tower normal makes the game LESS strategic

and there is nothing in the world against this FACT

 

you can keep childishly to ignore it but the reality doesnt change

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