We'll hopefully they'll fix that soon. Maybe you should be complaining to stardock instead.

Is it really that hard to put 'premade' or 'PreM' in the title of your game?  Trust me, your complaints will end after that, but so will your high win rate, which you probably care more about.

umm actually people still tend to join even if they aren't premade. Also what should we do about a 3v3 game but its only me and 1 buddy.

If you're a good team then add that to the title. If you and your friends aren't so good, then don't worry about adding anything in the title.

I always appreciate it when hosts include premade in the title, it helps me ignore that game when I play solo.  When I have one or two of my buddies on Ventrilo playing with me I don't mind a fun challenge, I do not concern myself about my W-L ratio.

I don't really care about my win rate, so much as to just get a game going. It already can take up to 10 minutes to start a game, adding any length to that is just so unessicary.

I play 9pm PST time, so a few hours after you wicked.  However if I see you online when I jump on I will "attempt" to use the lame in games friends system to contact you, we'll see if we can get in a game

What planet do you live on?

I admit that it's clunky and my biggest beef with the lobby so far.  But I play in windowed mode so I don't have crash issue.  I wish there was an easier way.

That's just a ridiculous statement.  How often do premades hop into your lobby?  10% of the time, maybe? Take a look at your last 20 games, I don't see many premades against you guys.

Have you played any Pantheon games?  If you had, you'd know that Pantheon is broken beyond reason - mostly because of premades playing it.  It will currently match up two top 100 rated players against a 20K rated player 2v1.

So you wouldn't have to come crying to the boards?

My last loss was a premade.

I've stated that I havn't, and retracted my comments on that. I was wrong. I don't see how thats the premade's fault though, the focus should be on stardock there.

So you wouldn't have to come crying to the boards? 

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To be honest I had nothing better to do.

Pantheon works fine in non-EST primetime...

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Interesting thing to focus on their.

I wish I had some friends so I could grow up to be a pre-made Lolz!

Which is slightly more difficult to do when your team mates are comprised of both English and non-English speaking players with whom your only communication method nearly requires you to stop playing the game momentarily compared to a team who have experience with one another and possibly have multiple communication methods across a common language. Premades have the stigma that they have for a reason; it's not just bad players grasping at straws to justify a loss.

Most of the people who join lobbies to whine about it are, actually.

  if you make a game with a premade team and keep it a secret then youre just bitching out for an easy win.

nothing wrong withing playing with a premade team, in fact thats what demigod should be about.  but in demigod as well as most multiplayer strategy games; premade teams are clearly superior to a random pick up group team. 

     no doubt the people who complain because random pugs dont want to play thier premades are the same people who complain when you people choose the same demigod twice because of the inherent synergy of using the same demigod... but at the same time disregard the fact that they built a pre made team to have maximum synergy. 

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Just because people are playing together doesn't mean they're coming up with ridiculous multi-dg strategies to crush scrubs, most people just play a Demigod they'll enjoy.

If you aren't doing a premade then why arent you in the Pantheon or Skirmish. Logically. Since there currently is no option to team join in skir/panth you assume that custom games are premades.

I use the Custom Game browser to find other Australians for less laggy games than either Skirmish or Patheon will provide as they often lump me in with Americans and Europeans, with our in game pings climbing over the 450 mark in some games.

People need to stop complaining about premades. God forbid people start playing with thier friends. If you join a custom game thats a risk you take, i met a few cool peeps on demigod and i would enjoy teaming up with them in a game by something other than pure chance in pantheon or skirmish.

Its a sad sight when people get upset that people play premades. Make some friends, make your own premade, and crush thiers .

Let me get this straight... You're saying that *only* premades should play custom games?

So much for trying to get a low ping game. So much for trying to get a 3v3 game. So much for... O forget it.

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Theres nothing inherantly wrong with premades, in fact, they are playing the game the way it was meant to be played, and have been greatly failed by GPG for lack of a team pantheon.

However, there is something very wrong with premades who go out of their way to disguise it. Anyone who does that is just inflating their record and ego by stomping pug teams in meaningless games that nontheless tick their record up +1. This can be as simple as just lying when asked, but can reach even deeper levels of scheming. For example, my friend and I recently joined a certain 2v2 game (after hosting a lobby for several minutes we got bored and went looking for a game). The host left the 3rd slots open on each team. My friend and I took spots 1 and 2 on darkness, and the lobby was 4/6. But instead of starting the game, a 5th person joined, and the host kicked the person that had already been on his team. For about 5 seconds my friend and I were confused but by the time the game loaded we knew exactly what they had done. Turns out they had also modified almost all the game settings to suit their playstyle as well. This was just about the worst level of premade deceit that we had ever witnessed, and my friend cursed them out all game as we dominated them for half an hour (then my router skipped, I d/ced, and my friend still almost won because we were so far ahead at that point). But I digress. Deliberately trying to cover up your premade-ness is bad.

The fuzzy area, though, is instead of lying or decieving, simply declining to mention. My friends and I tell people who ask, but we don't mention it unless they do. This is because it takes sooo much longer to get games if you publicly declare your premadeness. Pubs don't want to play you because they know they'll get stomped. Even the scumbag-level premade teams avoid you because they reason: enemy premade --> higher chance of loss --> not worth risk --> back to pubstomping. Anyways, my team's comprimise has been to host "No Noobs" or "Pros" games to try to attract better competition, but declining to mention our premadeness unless directly asked.

I'm not saying that *ONLY* premades play custom games. Infact "only" isn't even in that sentence, but sure. Whatever.

The highest likelyhood of finding a premade is in custom matches. Yes some people use it to find local servers. But for the majority, it's premade.

There is too many grey area's to come to a conclusion here.  What if I play with one friend and one PUG player?  What if my friends and I don't use vent?  What if I play with my brand new friend who sucks at the game?  Are all these scenarios "premade"?  I don't play with my friends to roflstomp people, I play with them when I can because its fun.

Also here's another example.  I didn't play with any of my real life friends last night.  The second game I played I met a really good erebus player, I told him so in chat while the game was going and friended him.  I hosted another game after we won a few minutes later, by chance when he joined he ended up on my team again.  Are we now also a "premade" ?

Bottom line, I'm all for a ranked ladder matches with arranged teams allowed.  Its the only way out of this issue.  You could as a single player join a 3v3 or 2v2 ladder match, or you could do so with friends.  It would keep your records for playing with your teams on a seperate ranking page from those matches you played by yourself.  Right now the only way to play with my friends is custom, some of us are good, some of us suck, and some of us are somewhere in the middle.  None of us at the moment use vent, and none of us ever try to hide that we know eachother.  Making it take longer than it already takes to find a game by wanting us to put "premade" in the title seems absurd.

We honestly need an "MMO" solution with a waiting-for-game chat (that works in and out of lobbies) so people can "LFG 3v3 premade" and invite people to private games. It's hard for premades to join a game because when it's a 3v3, and it's already filled up to 4 players, how can you get your team of 3 there?

Well the sad thing about disguised premade games is that after a while, everyone but the new players know that the match is with a premade.

It blows my mind how much of a big deal people are making about premades.

If you dont like it, PLAY SKIRMISH OR PANTHEON!!!

Jesus Christ man, cry moar... You have not only 1, but 2 ways of assuring your not playing a premade (during the pantheon timeframe). The whole point of the lobby is so that you CAN play premades. It's fun to play with a friend. Dont have any friends? Tough. Dont try and bash someone for making use of the system that was clearly made so either buddy's or competitive teams have a way to play together.

It also amazes me that people think they are owed an explanation of why, how, when, this team has been created that is soo good and why haven't they been notified by email, fax, whatever... Are you for real? Im not going to explain why I made a game. Do I need someones permission before I start a premade. U If you get owned in a game, hell, remember the names of the people who stomped you and dont play them. If your such a stat whore that a loss to a premade game is going to ruin your fragile ego, SD has made it so you can even look up the stats of the people your thinking about playing.

Its a GAME. Figure out how you have the most fun out of it and stfu about how other people have theirs...