defending against a tech victory

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hey guys...playing TA beta 6.  This prolly a basic strat question.  What is the best way to defend against a tech victory without turning that option off.  Had a good game going when I got the message that an opponent was researching "beyond mortality", and that I should keep an eye on it.  What seemed like about 20 turns later they had the tech victory.  Went to a previous save and tried to spy their ass off which didnt really help.  Ended with the same results.  I play a custom race with the super diplomat ability.  I dont want to turn off tech victory because I would like to get there also....just dont want anyone getting there before me...hehe.  Any strategies for this? 
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Super Diplomat? Bribe other races to attack the race which possesses Beyond Mortality, and cut any alliance you may have with them. Selling them junk technology usually buys a war and gets you some money at the same time, although if tech trading is off, 1500-2500 bc should do the trick. You can even join in yourself and help in bringing down the offenders, or you could maintain peaceful relations with them and even bribe them into declaring war on others(esp. Super Organizers/Manipulators).

If possible though, the simplest option is just to go and kill them yourself, though having a few "allies" in the mix may help speed things up. Just declaring war seems to make the AI shift over to military production and put research/social behind. Offensive espionage is generally not amazingly effective.
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I tried to bribe others to go to war with them, but the other races were allied with the offenders. I dont know if this is an issue with beta 6 or if it just happens, but the offenders were allied with everybody on the map, so I allied with them and tried to bribe them to attack someone else to offset their research production, but since they were allied with the other races...... it wasnt happening. I could have declared war on them myself, but their military rating dwarfed mine and they were allied with the other major races so it would been certain doom for me.....uhhh...actually it was certain doom as I did declare war on the offenders and then begged for mercy as the entire map proceeded to drop a massive cockbomb on my insignificant little civ.......lol. Ahh the joys of 4x!!
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Looks like you were doomed anyway :)

You could try to get an alliance with that race, especially since they were already allied with many others, and finish off all non-allied races. Though that might be tough to do in 20 weeks.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Had this happen to me once aswell. The Krynn, the most powerful faction and my ally, the humans and myself (Korx) were left. I had just orchestrated a war against the Terrans by the Krynn and myself, when I got this notification.

I thought "Damn, I only get a notice at the last tecg before tech victory?! I'm screwed!"
I hogged all their best research plans, focused completely on tech victory (100% research), but still had about 12 turns left to go when the Krynn finished. Couldn't have killed the Terrans in time, maybe I should've broken alliance and went to war, but I doubt I would've delayed them long enough... Think I might still have a save though...
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I tried to bribe others to go to war with them, but the other races were allied with the offenders.
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They had already won. Via an effective Diplomacy Victory - which in turn allowed them to get an official technology victory.
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I tried to bribe others to go to war with them, but the other races were allied with the offenders.They had already won. Via an effective Diplomacy Victory - which in turn allowed them to get an official technology victory.
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Yah, pretty much... If a race totally outclasses you militarily and is allied with every other race on the map, you had lost already and just weren't accepting it until they got the technology victory. That kind of situation is not only an effective Diplomacy victory, but a gauranteed military victory too if they had wanted to pursue it. It's what I would call a good old fashioned butt-kicking on all fronts, really.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Yah, pretty much... If a race totally outclasses you militarily and is allied with every other race on the map, you had lost already and just weren't accepting it until they got the technology victory.

That kind of situation is not only an effective Diplomacy victory, but a gauranteed military victory too if they had wanted to pursue it. I mean, it seriously sounds like they had you heavily outmatched in terms of military, clearly were very advanced technologically, and had every base covered diplomatically. It's what I would call a good old fashioned butt-kicking on all fronts, really.