Missing the stars isn't the problem, it's the damn pop-up menu that disappears within a second or so of making it appear!

Example : I hover (or click) the mouse over the star-menu, and move the cursor down towards the desired star-rating, and before it gets there, the menu disappears again. Over and over again... It's immensely frustrating.

AiTakahashi... Are you using cursor XP? If yes, it's propbably the cursor themes activation point that is off. I have to go out of the way to not be able to rate 5 stars. It's not that difficult. Something else is making it hard for you.

I do indeed use CXP, and that would certainly make sense, but for the fact that it happens with any cursor set I use. Also, take a look at the first 10 or so posts in this thread - many people are reporting the exact same problem, many of them old-hands and skinners themselves.

AiTakahashi just to satisfly myself and make sure I appreciated what you were saying I went to a skin and played with moving the cursor up to download button and to the ratings box.

I didn't have any problems. Did I have to pay attention to where the point of the cursor was, yes. I use CursorXP Plus, which really shouldn't make a difference.

Are the two functions too close to one another, yes. But that in itself does not effect you being able to make rating the skin a problem. That's why I said it seemed more of an annoyance.

Having said the above I still can see where people could have problems and it does need to looked at.

I'm almost afraid to ask...

3 months on, and still no change?

Yep that's right. You probably won't see a change until the next update of the WinCustomize site.  

the site will be revamped in the near future. there's no need to rearrange things now when they'll be completely revamped soon.

lol... I guess not. It's not like people have been requesting this change for, ooh... over a year is it?

Oh wait, yes they/we have!

ya know, it's kinda funny, but I have absolutely no trouble hitting a rating on my first attempt. Maybe its all those years of video games..... increased hand/eye coordination......

I don't experience any kind of issue at all with it either.

Slow the hell down and pay attention to what you are clicking on and I wager that your issues will go away too.
This is not a big deal.

Phoon, it would tend to agree that it is not a big deal.....but apparently to some folks it is. Not sure why, though.....

Step one: Place cursor over star rating.
Step two: Drop down appears. Bring cursor to desired rating.
Step three: Click.

DnB, you got that from "Rating for Dummies", didn't you?

Afraid I haven't seen that one. It's not word for word is it? I'll see if I can find it.

Sometimes when a website is made you get these odd little design flaws. For now you'll have to make do with exercising a bit of care when selecting downloads or ratings.

I'm sure this will be better designed in the next version of WC.

Dang it!  It's not a 'design flaw' ....it's just one of those cute little quirky things people grow to love....;)

killjosh, Phoon and Drill'n boss, I'm sure you are all enjoying taking little smart stabs at me for this, but bear in mind, it's not just little noob me who's experienced this "phenomenon". If you'd read the first half of this thread, you'd see a few names I'm fairly sure you'd be a bit less likely to snidely fob-off.

Milksama (Stardock employee, no less)
BoXXi
Starkers
Fairyy
Messiah1

...all seem to be having the same problem I'm sure you reckon is all down to me.

Anyway, forget it. Enough is enough.

This is not the issue at point here. The issue, due to their closeness is have the rating drop down open when you are trying to click the download button.

Yes, not a big deal, yes not an issue if you slow down but in an overall sense, it was bad placement for the two and has been a reported issue since almost day one of new site.

IMO, it should not have been that big a deal to move the rating stars back under preview thumbnail as they were on old site.

Its always been wacky for me...some of you need to back off the condescending to others just because you may not have a problem...It IS a wonky setup.  

It COULD have been fixed easily and LONG ago if someone in charge considered it important.  

Perhaps I should have clarified....
Have I ever had the rating drop down open when I meant to download? Yes I have. It was only a minor inconvenience that occurred when I was rushing. Have I ever had the mouse go nuts when trying to rate? NEVER.

Yes I am being condescending because I believe AiTakahashi was being condescending in comment number 28 with...



It is more of an issue if you are in a hurry. It is a tad annoying but the website isn't going to burn down because of it. There's more important issues at hand with actual application not functioning properly than to waste time ranting about this little thing.

when he said that, i figured he he didn't want the answer to his question. i know it's been posted somewhere that the issue will be corrected in the site's rebuild in 2008. i agree the issue with the rating stars can be a bit of a problem but it isn't worth bitching about after being told when it will be corrected. i guess some people just like to complain.

I certainly wasn't trying to be condescending...oh who am I kidding. Yes I was. It's one thing to mention an inconvenience, but to continue whining about it after you are told it's being looked into is childish. I make no apologies for my statements.

There are bigger issues on hand to deal with. If you think the ratings box should take precedence over all the other issues, then your priorities are in the wrong place.......

Looked into?...maybe...never any REAL info to suggest a fix IS coming.(none that I've seen anyway)Asking for an update to the staus of an issue isnt childish.

And when did ANYONE say that this issue should take precedent ove ALL other issues?

I didnt see the poster being condescending...merely sarcastic.Some of you practically accused the poster of not being able to use a mouse properly.

I have repeatedly had the same problems...now tell ME,you think I cant use a damn mouse.

The point here was and always has been...this was seen by most as an easy fix...if anyone cared.Its easy to become sarcastic when you begin to perceive that no one does.

Just because some users dont experience the problem,or see it as anything but an annoyance...dosnt mean it SHOULDNT be important(relative to its ease of fixing)to those of us who DO have a prob.  

Y'know, if you guys aren't even willing or able to read the whole issue, why bother commenting at all? The menu appearing when going for the download button is no more than an annoyance, but the main issue which you seem to be either ignoring or haven't even realised, is that when trying to rate a skin, the mouse-over menu disappears before the user can select the appropriate rating. If you are not affected by this, it doesn't surprise me that you don't realise how effing frustrating it is.

Frankly, your attitudes are appalling. By all means condemn my own, but please bear in mind that this has, for me at least, been going on for over three months now, and it's still an absolute pain in the ass, just to award a rating.

If this is the treatment a paying subscriber receives from "fellow" members while following up on a legitimate gripe, I may well reconsider my next 2 year sub, and if that sounds childish, tough. You reap what you sow. I've never been a fan of "in-crowd" net communities, and this one is beginning to look distinctly like it.

I'm not part of the in crowd. I've been a member for two months (give or take). But I do understand (and would hope that others would too) that there are bigger priorities. WC is getting revamped this year, so please be patient. Things will come in due time, and although that timeframe may not be a soon as some would like, that's just the way it is.

I.R, we all know of your skills as a skinner... (I've dl'd a bunch of your work myself)

AiTakahasi, just show some patience. This thread isn't even 3 months old. I know it is an issue for you (as well as some others), and I'm pretty sure the net team @ SD knows it too.....

This site is far from perfect, and we all know it. But it IS a great site, problems or not....