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Lol.., where are the copy rights?

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Lol.., where are the copy rights?

Chaninja, you have to see this...

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well, the icon package named "Chaninja Style (SubZero)", was(and is), one of the greatest ip i have ever seen before.., but today when i was using a new Anti-Spyware i found something interesting.., i saw this:




..yes, it's Chaninja's ip Link

realy, Jafo.., please dont delete this post..., let people know how software developers stole skinners art..., or maybe Chaninja gave them the right to use his Ip...
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Reply #26 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Their email addy's are not posted so you can only contact Jafo


It's not obvious, but they are there: https://www.wincustomize.com/AboutSite.aspx . On the far right (geographicaly, not neccessarily politically


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Reply #27 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Speaking of ripping...I just took a visit to Gamp Designs..and saw yes..star wars wb there as well as the up coming "aviator" suite. I was wondering if Gamp is being notified that his skins are being stolen for lack of a better word?????
Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #28 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Posting a thread is clearly the fastest way. It's not the way to go for most of the little things that are "borrowed" but for things like a WB, it's not good to have it stay up a few days, which does happen.
Reply #29 from WinCustomize Forums Top
This whole copyright thing has confused me for some time. I had brought up some dock icons that were obviously copies of the VistaIcons or the actual ectraxted icons, but because they were altered or adapted for a 'different' use (Jafo will correct me on this, sorry if my memory is bad) they were allowed.

How does altering the appearance of the original oh so slightly make it okay? The whole area seems so grey or 'selective' as far as who moderates the upload. How can images of supermodels and corporate logo's get through just because they were altered or presented in a different format than the original. Example...A wall of say A.Jolie that someone downloads and transforms into a bootskin. Doesn't the copyright on an image also cover any alteration of that image for any use?

There needs to be some clarity and transparency brought to this whole issue, as even when you read the rules and guidelines, it seems kind of grey and unclear on these finer points, and as I stated earlier, the moderation sames to selective. If one mod can approve it and another delete it, it's as if the mods don't even agree on what constitutes copyright infringment.

BTW...did we ever clear up the ChaNinja issue? Did they have permission? I am curious as I have been getting emails from sites like AngryXP to get my permission to post my stuff, and it kinda makes me nervous, like I have to go check if I say NO.

Finally, DZ...I hate to see you so upset and pull out like this. You've been a great supporter of my work and a help with a lot of things for me.
Reply #30 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Doesn't the copyright on an image also cover any alteration of that image for any use?

Yes



Finally, DZ...I hate to see you so upset and pull out like this. You've been a great supporter of my work and a help with a lot of things for me.


Ditto bro.
Reply #31 from WinCustomize Forums Top

boss0190  ...re the Starwars WB...it's gone, and its uploader will not be repeating his 'error'.

I still cannot stress highly enough...that email is the preferred option, otherwise the alternate method will lead to the thread's censure and then noses are out of joint because of that, instead, which is quite apparent.

Reply #32 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Just so the methodology is abundantly clear....if [or when] you post about an alleged 'rip' publicly on the forums - expect to see the thread 'edited' or gone entirely fairly quickly.

Hopefully Wincustomize.com can have a nice new shiny "Report this as a rip" button on each upload [as DeviantArt does] so this public 'outing' won't occur.

Devart NEEDED the feature even more so than here, hence its early adoption [and thanks to Jark - who listened].

Re the emails, sometimes they may not be replied-to [real life interferes at times] but they do NOT go unread, or not acted upon....

Reply #33 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Nobody minds the thread being gone quickly, as long as the rip is too. That isn't at all what DZ is upset about..it clearly goes much deeper, and for good reason I suspect.
Reply #34 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Can anything be done about bootskin authors autographing works that they rip from the web and convert to bootskin.


Doesn't the copyright on an image also cover any alteration of that image for any use?


Yes


I still cannot stress highly enough...that email is the preferred option,


So, if someone wanted to take the time and go through the boot gallery and email admin over each individual submission that is a rip (and shouldn't have been approved according to what I am seeing here) they will all be dealt with and/or deleted?
Reply #35 from WinCustomize Forums Top
It also seems there are some new walls uploaded by Kol that used the stock.xcnang as a source for the walls. I had 1 logon removed because of that and I believe DZ had 5 pulled for using images from there...even tho links to the site were given. Is this a slip-up? Or what?
Reply #37 from WinCustomize Forums Top

 Master Apprentice Po' Smedley ...the issue raised here is with the re-signing of a wall image, not with the wall image's use in itself....see post #19 .....

I think that if the circumstances as outlined there fit then yes, as it would be a particular issue.

There are 3000-plus boots, and more logons as well...so to a degree the horse has bolted, but it would have been even more appropriate that IF the wall was another's that its source was linked AND clear credit displayed.

On occasion uploads to those sections have swamped in, raising alarm bells...and specific investigation has shown the images' origin was a site [or sites] which strictly prohibited redistribution in ANY form.  They were simply removed.

However...

Wincustomize.com site policy is that the Onus is specifically upon the uploader to ascertain permissions/rights/etc for his works to be uploaded. 

That is the first line of defence for propriety.

Second line is the Moderators' picking the 'issue' from the 'OK' and moderating.

Third line is all you guys....catching the strays....[such as that Starwars WB].

Most times it works a treat.

Sometimes people clutch the wrong end of the stick and all hell breaks loose...

Reply #38 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Well, they know about it now NT.
Reply #39 from WinCustomize Forums Top
DZ...I hate to see you so upset and pull out like this


Yeah, me too. Possible to reconsider...?
Reply #40 from WinCustomize Forums Top
.the issue raised here is with the re-signing of a wall image, not with the wall image's use in itself....see post #19


What about something like the Davinci boot, which is an altered Microsoft Plus Theme wallpaper? Because it is altered (which seems to me they are adding/resigning their name as author) does that mean it's not a rip? Just because it's altered and has a different authors name? How is using an unaltered wall and signing your name different than altering or cutting up a copyrighted image and adding/resigning your name?
Reply #41 from WinCustomize Forums Top
PO'.......No, the company in question has not written me back. I went to great lengths to figure out who they really are...to no avail.

The only possible way I can see is either tracing their domain or, signing up for their "affiliate" program. The latter of the two being out of the question IMO.

It's too bad that ChaNinja didn't post an e-mail. He could be contacted and, this would be resolved. Maybe it would be in W.C.'s interest to write him? I don't know...just a thought.
Reply #42 from WinCustomize Forums Top

If anyone has an issue with an upload they should use e-mail to contact a moderator. If I see a problem it will be dealt with seconds after I see it - but bear in mind (that like other moderators here) I have a job and a life and cannot be here (how ever much I wish I could) 24 hours a day. We are also not personally responsible for being able to recognize every image on the net, no-one can, we need your assistance with that.

The benefits of a public (messageboard) alert to a potential incident does not aleviate the damage caused to an innocent party by a false accusation. Innocent until proven guilty is the rule in most places, so let's keep it that way

 

 

Reply #43 from WinCustomize Forums Top
it would be great if we have a "lock" (no comments allow) post, with the moderators name and email.., that we can always see at the forum.., something like: "How to report a rip"

...this could work for the new ones that doesn't know all about this site.
Reply #44 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Master Apprentice Po' Smedley  ...when I said 're-signing' I meant the alteration of the wallpaper used to actually include text of the uploader's name.

A bootskin uploaded by 'JAFO' can use a wall by 'Fred Blogs' but I am NOT allowed to then insert MY name [JAFO] on that wall image - on the bitmap.

It is assumed that an uploaded bootskin will either have a wall drawn BY the uploader [and can be signed by him] or 'belongs' to someone else [and used with permissions/whatever] and will then NOT be signed by him.

Either way, the resulting Bootskin is 'his' work or an appropriate amalgamation and can be uploaded to his gallery.

If the image is NOT his it cannot have a signature attached by him to it...

Reply #45 from WinCustomize Forums Top
#44 ...good grief...so many ways of saying the same thing....
Reply #46 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Kol is a Master so noone moderated it.


well.., that's not fare...
Reply #47 from WinCustomize Forums Top
when I said 're-signing' I meant the alteration of the wallpaper used to actually include text of the uploader's name.


Thanks for taking that matter seriously Jafo.
Reply #48 from WinCustomize Forums Top

it would be great if we have a "lock" (no comments allow) post, with the moderators name and email.., that we can always see at the forum.., something like: "How to report a rip"

I think a section where someone can e-mail the moderators without having to display their "real" e-mail addresses would be appropriate.

Reply #49 from WinCustomize Forums Top

well.., that's not fare...

'fair' ...Spell checker

And yes it is.  Kol's works/contributions to skinning deserved him his position which has the 'perk' of not requiring moderation.

Sometimes, however errors occur....and, to be specific, the exact same 'error' occurred with Kol's uploads as did with Double Zero's.

Both have been dealt with equally.

Or...

'fair'....

Reply #50 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I think a section where someone can e-mail the moderators without having to display their "real" e-mail addresses would be appropriate.


yea.., sounds good