it seems the problem disappeared.
Alpinyo
I Started my computer and the explorer - fences error message appeared and all my Icons are scrambled. This happened at the start Without start11 being enabled. Update. Unpluged the PD from laptop the monitor went black then came back. I have a laptop and to it connected a monitor. Fences did again the thing. Plugged and unplugged the laptop has two different power managament state. This is annoying. I had Fences 3 and did not do this. <img src="https://cdn.stardock.us/forums/
Hy. I think if Fences is uninstalled than Start11 works well. For now I just disabled start11 and only use Fences 4. No issues yet, if start11 is not enabled no issues. Also I realized that after uninstalling start11 at one point it happened that the W11 taskbar stuck in the previous start11 size and also the time and date was misaligned (seemed that falls out of the windows). I had to reinstall start11 to correct the misalignment.
Fences 4 disabled while I was doing some settings on Start11. Fences 4 "explorer closed... and Fences disabled. Please enable" then Start11 icons disappeared. I payed for Start11 and also would like to purchase Fences 4 but It seams that it will be an annoying life if I will keep these two apps. It is like Fences does not like Start11 somehow. They seems that these two siblings dont go well together. <img src="https://cdn.stardock.us/forums/70/78/7078622/22d7bd52-ba85-4fa3-9aac-ee7d6a328
Free upgrade from Fences 3 to 4 instead of a really small ammount of discount. Sad :( and I am feeling that I might leave. Increase the speed of Fences. It happened that after having a bunch of icons Fences became unusable/really slow. At times fences are covering my icons on desktop. Fix this. Android style app folders with name under fences. Tabbed fences with app cattegories. Round edges.