[quote who="Istari" reply="7" id="2758940"] Quoting wynams, reply 3cuz hex maps, AAA level polish and working multiplayer out of the box suck amirite? Enough "wynams". You don't have Civ V and I suspect you don't have Elemental.[/quote] Got it now, its 10,000x the game Elemental wishes it could pretend to be. CIV V is very polished and the presentation is off the charts. Multiplayer works outta da box (You can even include AI in your MP games) ba
I never thought tactical warfare was one of the series talking points. Its ATT v DEF thats it. What it has lacked there it abounds in micromanaging city resources, technology progression and diplomacy. In Civ 4 I always strive ftw via Space Race.
If I had to guess, I'd say the thinking here is the box that shipped out last month said "features: 16 player multiplayer" not "features: balanced game".
[quote who="ZehDon" reply="92" id="2761291"]I did not mis-quote, quote out of context, nor did I segment your quote in order to better allow myself to address a particular point you made. You made a statement, I quoted it and made the necessary amendments to it to allow it to read correctly and used the correct methods for doing so to ensure anyone reading would understand that I have done this.[/quote] Well, you left the part about me freely admitting that I am compar
[quote who="ZehDon" reply="89" id="2761237"] Quoting wynams, reply 88...my thoughts on [Civ 5] are as valid as yours my friend. That is to say they are entirly in-valid, as neither of us have played said game, correct?[/quote] Nice partial quote .. live in DC?
[quote who="ZehDon" reply="86" id="2761204"] Quoting wynams, reply 82...FWIW my EWOM $ was refunded... Reduced 92%Original 400 x 478 Give it a rest.[/quote] I am NOT commenting on these here fine forums regarding any Elemental 1.07+ thread, because I have not played it (as you noted stalker, I was refunded). However, *THIS* thread is also discussing the prospects of CIV 5 of which my thoughts on this up and
[quote who="dragoaskani" reply="5" id="2758930"] Quoting wynams, reply 3cuz hex maps, AAA level polish and working multiplayer out of the box suck amirite?OH didn't know you had your copy already. So glad you were here to inform us that the game is in perfect order and the multiplayer works outta the box. Now since you are clearly a time traveler mind sharing who wins the super bowl this season? I would like to place a bet and your aid would be appreciated.[/quote] Green Bay ;)</
[quote who="Rune_74" reply="12" id="2759000"] Quoting Istari, reply 7 Quoting wynams, reply 3 cuz hex maps, AAA level polish and working multiplayer out of the box suck amirite? Enough "wynams". You don't have Civ V and I suspect you don't have Elemental. Yeah he played 100 hours of elemental, got bored and asked for a refund which he got then cam back to the frums to cause shit....(this from another board mi
[quote who="Istari" reply="7" id="2758940"] Quoting wynams, reply 3cuz hex maps, AAA level polish and working multiplayer out of the box suck amirite? Enough "wynams". You don't have Civ V and I suspect you don't have Elemental.[/quote] Yeah you're right Istari. Sid is a hack who bluffed his way to the top releasing shoddy, busted shite for decades. FWIW my EWOM $ was refunded, so no, I no longer have that waste of hard drive space occupying my SSD.
[quote who="_PawelS_" reply="2" id="2758925"]I think I will prefer Civ5 over Elemental, mostly because of the 1-unit-per-hex rule, which will remove the "stack of doom" problem from the Civ series (so it won't be just another Civ game, it will be significantly different), and because IMO Elemental lacks depth, diversity and excitement in its current state.[/quote] I'm hoping so as well. BTW I haven't thanked you and the 1.4 team for all the AoW I been playing. Great wor
[quote who="Zalusithix" reply="177" id="2758490"] all that's left to Stardock is Brad and a bunch of robots doing his bidding. =P[/quote] That eerily sounds like the functional requirements doc for Elemental
I think given the back and forth between the dissatisfied and the fans ... The PC UK Gamer "don't buy our games" and subsequent retraction ... Brad saying on page 4 of this thread ... game isn't ready, he was too close to realize the work it needed ... and the resultant financial impact costing 20 Stardock Employees their jobs that releasing games that aren't ready to the % of fans patient enough to put up with unreadiness for 2+ years is no
IMO Brad should stop talking. A simple "I farged up" would do. No need for 4 paragraphs of driveling which 2.5 paragraphs of can be contradicted 2 days later. This cycle is not making for good Stardock PR (or Stardock bottom line) ;-)
Brad said Elemental was ready to ship/play at launch w the PC UK Gamer fiasco. A week later Brad said it wasn't ready, but was clouded by how close he was to the game. That the bad reviews were warranted because EWoM wasn't a good game (yet). In that same post he said Stardock will be working on Elemental for years to come. Literally. Let me be specific: Stardock will NOT release a new game next year. It'll all be El
[quote who="tevans6220" reply="146" id="2757774"]Show of hands. Who got a refund on their pre-order? Reason I want to know is that's practically the only way that revenue projections could be so bad as to lead to layoffs. All of the diehard fanboys are keeping their copies, right? It just doesn't add up. Poor revenue can only mean one thing. Massive returns.[/quote] ME! I got a refund after 1.06. Game was stable, just mechanics are horridly off and more than a patch
I thought Brad said Elemental wasn't rushed out, that Stardock didn't rely on game sales and that even if they didn't sell another copy that the team would work on improving Elemental for the next 2 years. Guess Brad led a lot of you astray ... as my first dealings with Stardock was the game Elemental, I really do not understand where all the loyalty comes from. He seems like a real tool
[quote who="Mtn_Man" reply="153" id="2750647"]There also seems to be a "Let's stick it to Stardock" attitude making the rounds, which is unfortunate since some of these reviewers seem determined not to give Elemental a fair shake.[/quote] Whatever .. Gamespot and Shacknews and surely others are holding off reviews for further patches. That is cutting Stardock more of a break than recent history anyone has done for ANY size publisher.
Something about "thoroughly enjoying the game as it is" yet it still "needing significant work" (your exact words used in the same sentence) aren't typically synonymous, so I guess you are correct that I am making a bad assumption there [e digicons]o_O[/e] As for the defense of the 54% from the polls, I sure hope none of my friends would recommend something that still needed "significant work" lulz
@Jharii Yeah I read a bunch of forums regularly. Are you paying attention? 54% of people who visit these forums took a poll and said either they love it or like it and would recommend it. That is "most people" I am referring to. Had that poll been hosted somewhere a little less fan friendly, I assure you the numbers (ya know, out there in the real world) would not be nearly as positive.
[quote who="OliverFA" reply="98" id="2746407"] it's ok to do exactly the same just with updated graphics and improved AI. There is absolutely no need to redesign any part of the game. As I see it, is a safe bet for anyone who could buy the name.[/quote] This ... Too often you get companies trying to do too much, reinvent the wheel or redefine the genre. Complicated game dynamics usually do not make for a rewarding lengthy relations
2. Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state. Released means the version that was pressed on the disk, right? I hardly think even the most pious fanboy would have called 1.0 a finished state. Why are so many review sites holding back there reviews if this is finished? Why does the support forum have 1100 threads if this is finished? Why does metacritic have this at 44/100 if this game is so satisfactory? Can
