[quote who="Jafo" reply="147" id="3316872"] Re the_Monk's edit....yes, MS decided it was the current Windows users themselves who would be the ones required to bend to their [new] direction. Integration and commonality at ALL costs.[/quote] It being the [i]choices[/i] of the greater 'connected world' influencing their future tech plans, I don't believe it matters who or what is required to [i]bend[/i]. The '
[quote who="Jafo" reply="143" id="3316834"] My main issue behind the whole direction MS has taken with 8 is that after all these generations of MS OS the 'change' is now revolutionary, not evolutionary....[/quote] That's just it though.......evolution in technology is good and all but sometimes it takes [i]re[/i]volution within technology to effect real change once one 'evolutionary path' has been maximized. Win 7 may very well be the
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="140" id="3316801"] You can't organize your Metro apps into folders ala iOS.[/quote] Why would you want to? I find grouping them on the start screen perfectly acceptable since having them in 'folders' would just necessitate an [i]extra click/tap[/i] and we're all about eliminating that.
[quote who="Jafo" reply="106" id="3316320"] So the work-around for a clunky GUI is multiple monitors..... That's a bit like the solution to multi-tasking is to have multiple computers.... [/quote] I do not run multiple screens, I put that forward as a [i]potential[/i] reason as to why some people may find that a non-issue. I personally do not find the small amount of lost screen real estate noticeable, I do not think the UI in Windows 8 is clunky or
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="101" id="3316295"] I concede that Windows 8 runs better on older hardware but I don't think that's the main market. On a NEW machine, Windows 7 is a better choice than Windows 8 IMO for getting work done. [/quote] While I don't think the market for Win 8 is the [i]oldest of old[/i] hardware I also don't think 'new' hardware is the target for Win 8 either. Just look at their price-point.......I'm thinking up
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[quote who="Fuzzy Logic" reply="14" id="3316095"]To all you twits still twittering @reallife go outside dudes, that's the real world... [/quote] Something my son said to me a few years back.......(still makes me laugh even though I'm sure he wasn't the first/only one to say this). "so....I went outside today.........the graphics were AWESOME! " [e digicons]O:)[/e]
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="93" id="3316229"] Has someone put up some actual advantages of Windows 8 over Windows 7 as a desktop OS that overcome these (and plenty of other serious problems)? The lists I've seen have been dancing on the edge -- nicer looking (but less effective) task manager, smaller memory footprint (which is largely irrelevant on a 64-bit OS with 8 gigs of memory). Even Explorer itself in Windows 8 is less useful because they brought in the Office
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[quote who="Roloccolor" reply="16" id="3315910"] Was it only the FSB that made it possible to install win8 in the first place? [/quote] Well it's not the FSB itself that limits Win8 installs, it's the extended CPU instruction sets (being there or not). On Intel M series processors the one's with an FSB of 400Mhz do not have PAE, NX and SSE2 which as far as I know are required to install MS Windows 8.
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So I'm sure most who are using Windows 8 know this already and there are a myriad of websites and videos on youtube out there showing Windows 8 tips and tricks..... I just thought I'd share a few of my most-used keyboard shortcuts: Windows key +start typing = search your PC (Windows key +Q = opens search to search APPS, Windows key +F = opens search Files) Windows key +TAB = cycle through
[quote who="moshi" reply="31" id="3315800"] seen the latest Office version by Microsoft? not a sight of Metro or WinRT. [/quote] MS Office 2013 Pro does actually make use of some of the connectivity-always-first [i]principles[/i] Win8/RT is built around. For instance it absolutely rocks with basic SkyDrive integration but it also brings SkyDrive Pro to the table should you wish/need to make use of it.
[quote who="RedneckDude" reply="9" id="3315607"]Quoting the_Monk, reply 7RND I meant.......they won't be going back to the antiquated start-menu any time soon...... I was disagreeing with starkers, not you...lol Guess I coulda been more specific. [/quote] Yeah I noticed that [i]after[/i] the fact.........everyone's been posting so fast I've been missing some replies.....hehe.........hot top
[quote who="DrJBHL" reply="3" id="3315595"]While it's great business for Stardock, and believe me - I wish SD and all who dwell within nothing but the best, but I find it completely ludicrous to buy an OS which needs another piece of software to make it usable . [/quote] I don't want to take anything away from SD or anyone who runs their 'start8' etc. but I find Windows 8 a huge leap forward as it is.......in vanilla Win8 mode. [quote who="DrJBHL" reply="
Glad to hear you like the Surface MadDeez. One thing I found a bit lacking with the built-in mail app is the lack of POP mail support. The only way (at this time) to interface with a pop account is to add your pop email to an outlook.com email account and then have your Surface 'mail app' connect with that. Isn't that big of a deal to be honest (since I use mostly enterprise/imap solutions for email but it does add some hassle). Other
LOVE that Microsoft game........'parachute panic'...... hehe [e digicons]O:)[/e] (the most-played game on my windows phone!)
I am in agreement with starkers........ Anyone [i]claiming[/i] Windows 8 to suck either hasn't given it a fair shake (if at all) or hasn't experienced the newer, and yes faster/more efficient ways of navigating the OS yet. Everything anyone can do in Windows 7 (or any older windows OS) can be done faster with the modern UI/Windows 8. I challenged many of my clients to 'prove' they [i]needed[/i] the start [b]menu[/b] over the
[quote who="ernie leo" reply="301" id="3314706"]Did you hook up the second power connection, if you have an old power supply it would must likely require an adapter ? [/quote] Yup ernie leo is correct, older PSU's don't have all of the needed plugs and will need an adapter. The secondary power connection is usually behind the CPU towards the back of the case.
[quote who="Savyg" reply="71" id="3314300"] Is this a trick question? How would an OS be on the drive if it's never been used? It's an upgrade copy, not a full copy. [/quote] Sorry, not a trick question. I guess I assumed you were talking about the same version RND is talking about.
[quote who="Savyg" reply="67" id="3314292"]I installed clean from the upgrade disc. Yes, it verifies the OS is on the drive, but then you can format it at leisure. [/quote] But if it 'verifies' the OS is on the drive how can it 'verify' the OS being there on a fresh (never before used) HD? Is this maybe a case where MS expects the OS to live/die by a single HD/system (as is the case with OEM)? Hmm.......gotta love the million MS lice
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="61" id="3314284"] thanks for remembering me but I am fine (hubbie will wait because he doesn't have a choice). It is possible that when this disk comes in that it is 'upgrade only' something I experienced in the past??? Time will tell but I am sure all will be well here. [Hubbie threatened to go buy the disk ASAP so I cannot lose]. But it is fun to tinker! I am going to do a fresh/clean install ASAP myself … got plenty of time a
@ RND Well like I said, that sounds a lot different to me than actually having (what used to be referred to as) an upgrade(only) version. I'm glad your license is working out for you.
It's been a while since I built a new rig for myself but the last time I did it I used STG1. A non-curing compound by Zalman. I found it to be much simpler to apply the right amount (applies like nail polish using the built in brush) and while not sooooo much better than the rest (the web claims are well.......web claims) it definitely did keep things a degree or two cooler than the rest.
[quote who="RedneckDude" reply="56" id="3314273"] Actually, if an upgrade version of Windows 8 is bought, which I did, you only have to show that you have a valid version of windows to upgrade from to begin with. It can be installed on any PC thereafter. This is what Microsoft's site told me when I purchased ny upgrade. If this were not true, then how would you reinstall after a reformat? You couldn't. But you can. It is a full version of Windows, you got it at u
Great.....now maybe we can get back to GirlFriendTess's problem? [e digicons]O:)[/e] EDIT: Nevermind....just saw this.......guess it got buried.....or I just missed it. [quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="14" id="3314036"] Luckily, on one of my downloads I purchased a copy on disk which should be here in the next week ... the saga continues.[/quote]
That is correct Daiwa. There have been instances where the 'upgrade media' (not being [i]true[/i] upgrade-only media) has worked for a clean install, but I wouldn't bank on it. It is my understanding that if the download is actually [i]truly[/i] upgrade-media then a clean install (not upgrade) will not work! I'm sorry I can't really help out much in this discussion as I mostly deal with vol
the cloud is your friend....... I find Office 365 an essential tool of the 'road warrior' today. Things one used to have to wait to get back to the office for are now never further than your fingertips. "Exxxxxxcellent smithers......excellent!" [e digicons]O:)[/e]