Latest Zogby Poll shows....

War Protesters read this and weep.

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http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1067

The latest poll shows that 64% of AMERICANS think something warlike should be done to Iran.

I am sure the figures must encompass more than a few liberals.

I say bunker bust them back into the 10th century.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
MM drops a 5000 pound bunkerbuster on the headquarters of moveon.org
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Zogby is also the outfit that on election day projected a Kerry win. Polls is polls is polls.

Cheers,
Daiwa
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
2 by Daiwa
Thursday, February 02, 2006


Zogby is also the outfit that on election day projected a Kerry win. Polls is polls is polls.

Cheers,
Daiwa


here is how this works for me, if I agree with a poll then its a valid poll worthy of attention. If I disagree, it's not worth paying attention to and to be disgarded. How's that for honesty?
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

Mr. McGuire said in the Graduate (Ann was so hot!): "Plastics"

That was in 1969.

Today the appropriate quote is: "Glass"

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Thursday, February 02, 2006Mr. McGuire said in the Graduate (Ann was so hot!): "Plastics"That was in 1969.Today the appropriate quote is: "Glass"


I cannot tell you on how many levels I am lost reading this.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Whatever we do, it shouldn't involve a single American setting foot in Iran. I mean ever. Surrender can be achieved without putting our soldiers in harm's way.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
#6 by BakerStreet
Thursday, February 02, 2006


Whatever we do, it shouldn't involve a single American setting foot in Iran. I mean ever. Surrender can be achieved without putting our soldiers in harm's way.


here we agree, we need to put a muslim face on this, Turkey, jordan, the saudies, nothing but air power, bombs away.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top

cannot tell you on how many levels I am lost reading this.

One word quotes.  What do we do with Iran?

What happens when sand is super heated?

Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
#8 by Dr. Guy
Thursday, February 02, 2006


What happens when sand is super heated?


brain fart. thewtttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I see.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Whatever we do, it shouldn't involve a single American setting foot in Iran. I mean ever. Surrender can be achieved without putting our soldiers in harm's way.


I wasn't around here much when things in Iraq were heating up. Did you feel the same way about Iraq before it started?
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I happen to disagree at this juncture. We need to finish our challenges in Iraq and do some work at home. The concerns Iran presents are being dealt with through regional backdoor influences.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
What "work" do we need to do at home?
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
And what "regional backdoor influences" are in play, and how are they "dealing" with the concerns Iran presents?
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
"I wasn't around here much when things in Iraq were heating up. Did you feel the same way about Iraq before it started?"


In a way, yes. Since Iraq required setting up a new government, I knew that we would eventually have to have a presence there, but I thought we didn't try nearly as hard as we could have to ensure a true surrender before we went in. I think many were sincere when they were greeting us and waving their shoes around, but others weren't.

My opinion has always been when a town or region became antagonistic enough that a US soldier couldn't walk down the street, we should pull back out and go back to war with that town or region until they were so tired of it that they wouldn't tolerate insurgents to be there.

As it stands now, they are more afraid of the insurgents than us, and the insurgents will always win in that case. With Iran it would be a simpler situation. Pound them until the man-on-the-street there decides nuclear power isn't worth the mess. In the end the Iranian people are very able to effect their own government without our help.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: davad70Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2006Whatever we do, it shouldn't involve a single American setting foot in Iran. I mean ever. Surrender can be achieved without putting our soldiers in harm's way.I wasn't around here much when things in Iraq were heating up. Did you feel the same way about Iraq before it started?


nope thought invading Iraq was huge mistake, still do.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
My opinion has always been when a town or region became antagonistic enough that a US soldier couldn't walk down the street, we should pull back out and go back to war with that town or region until they were so tired of it that they wouldn't tolerate insurgents to be there.


Agreed 100%, but I go further....

I saw the news item recently where U.S. troops had reportedly been rounding up the wives of suspected insurgents and threatening them if the insurgents didn't cooperate. That is precisely what I think they should have been doing for quite a while. Barbaric? Perhaps, but it sends the message that if you mess with us, we'll kill you, your loved ones and everything you could ever hope to care about.

In war, you do what it takes to wipe out your enemies desire to fight. If you can do that by making a threat against friends and relatives, then you do it. Again, we are fighting an unconventional war against an unconventional enemy. I don't want to see us throw away all of our morals, but I do want to see an end to the fighting, and I want an end that guarantees the security of ourselves and our allies.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
bunker bust them back into the 10th century.


sorta like tryin to rehabilitate someone who was never habilitated to start with. nothin says 10th century like a nation state governed according to sharia.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: TitanI9Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2006I happen to disagree at this juncture. We need to finish our challenges in Iraq and do some work at home. The concerns Iran presents are being dealt with through regional backdoor influences.


Disagreement is good, since I disagree with you, letting these crazed muslims get a nuke, and there whole purpose of excistence is to wipe another country off the map, and to launch an attack on america using Al quiada as a foil.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DraginolPosted: Thursday, February 02, 2006What "work" do we need to do at home?


Reply By: stutefishPosted: Thursday, February 02, 2006And what "regional backdoor influences" are in play, and how are they "dealing" with the concerns Iran presents


yeh! and YEH!
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: kingbeePosted: Thursday, February 02, 2006bunker bust them back into the 10th century. sorta like tryin to rehabilitate someone who was never habilitated to start with. nothin says 10th century like a nation state governed according to sharia.


I agree in principal kingbee, but the Iranians really have grown to loove modern devices and comforts, take them away and then see if indeed the people rise up and do something.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree that air power would probably do the trick here. Troops on the ground are for longer term campaigns and the Iran situation doesn't seem to warrant that. Remember Qadafi in Libya? Operation El Dorado Canyon silenced his terrorist tendencies forever.

The thing is though, just like the bacteria in Iraq, you can't control what other people do in response, so if we (or some other country) does "Qadafi" Iran, we have to be prepared for a follow on mission if needed.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Friday, February 03, 2006I agree that air power would probably do the trick here. Troops on the ground are for longer term campaigns and the Iran situation doesn't seem to warrant that. Remember Qadafi in Libya? Operation El Dorado Canyon silenced his terrorist tendencies forever. The thing is though, just like the bacteria in Iraq, you can't control what other people do in response, so if we (or some other country) does "Qadafi" Iran, we have to be prepared for a follow on mission if needed.


the longer this goes on and the more rhetoric I hear coming from the Iranians, the more I am convinced they want some kind of incident.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
What "work" do we need to do at home?


Our culture has been taking a turn for the worse on many levels, as exampled by articles on JU. One that looms large in my estimation is our countries priorities, out of control budgets on many levels, and the polarization among people in how to move our country forward so all of us feel like we're making progress.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
And what "regional backdoor influences" are in play, and how are they "dealing" with the concerns Iran presents?


Experience has taught me that theorizing and conjecture never has all the facts and options. That's only understood when leadership is taken over those subjects bringing access to new information, facts and big picture scenarios.

I am not privy to the added information or facts. What I can assure is behind the seen activities and influences of TWH, state department and various government agencies are in play using resources and assets on many levels, none of which would be effective if made public.