Cart Search
New Topic
Forum Home | Login
sdrohan
sdrohan
Join Date 10/2012
+674 sdsupport

Start11 1.45 Release Issue Report Thread

June 6, 2023 12:50:51 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

With the Start11 1.45 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

start menu products
Search this post
Advanced Search
Subscription Options
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
3 Pages1 2 3 
sdrohan
sdrohan
Join Date 10/2012
+674 sdsupport
Reply #1 June 6, 2023 12:52:55 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Start11 1.45 Changelog (Released 06/06/2023)

06/06/2023

Stardock Release: 06/06/2023
Steam Release: 06/07/2023 (Planned)

1.4.5.2 (file version) - 1.45 in UI

06/01/2023

  • WinKey handling on the very latest Win11 builds improved so if the user is using Explorer patcher or using the right WinKey it will now support those. 
    Note: Elevated apps in the foreground are currently not supported.  Further investigation is required to support these. 

  • A further tweak to how the touch taskbar is detected on Win11

1.4.5.1 (file version) - 1.45 in UI

05/26/2023

  • Additional fixes that we believe address some of the reported compatibility issues with the KB5026446 Windows 11 release. 

05/25/2023

  • Has a tweak for the taskbar shifting issue when on Win11 with touch-capable hardware. It should, at the very least, fix the issue with having an external monitor and turning it off and going back to internal when DPIs didn't match

1.4.5.0 (file version) - 1.45 in UI

05/15/2023

  • This fixes 6309 (Right-click of sound on TB opens up on 2nd monitor).

  • Fixes taskbar issue when switching primary monitor by unplugging monitors.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
sdrohan
Join Date 10/2012
+674 sdsupport
Reply #2 June 6, 2023 1:05:18 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

  • Please do not report issues with 'Traffic Monitor'. The app isn't compatible with Start11.
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
sdrohan
Join Date 10/2012
+674 sdsupport
Reply #3 June 6, 2023 1:06:29 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

***Reserved***

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
psychokinesis
Join Date 11/2015
0
Reply #4 June 6, 2023 4:41:04 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

In the latest Win 11 Dev build (Build 23000+) where you can finally enable "never combine taskbar buttons", right clicking on taskbar buttons does not work - when you right click on taskbar buttons, nothing happens. I have to disable "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" for right click to work again. I know you don't support dev or beta builds but I just wanted to report this bug.

 

Another thing. In the beta bug report thread I said I didn't like Start11 because it doesn't resize taskbar buttons automatically. I was mistaken as Neil has said. I just installed Win 10 on a VM to refresh my mind on what I didn't like about Start11 when I first used it. I finally remembered what it was: taskbar buttons are narrower compared with Windows 10.

 

In Windows 10, taskbar buttons are 152 px in width.

 

Small taskbar buttons in Start11 are 136px in width in comparison.

 

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
crookslaura
Join Date 09/2014
0
Reply #5 June 7, 2023 3:07:18 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

I am unsure if this issue existed before, but I am using the Shortcuts list in Start11 to create a Quick Launch "Display as menu" item (I still don't understand why Quick Launch had to be removed from Windows!). I can relearn where to go for my Quick Launch menu BUT when I click it (just to view the menu structure - I don't actually choose anything) my Taskbar and any Explorers that are open are restarted. This isn't workable as I lose whatever folder I had open in Explorer. 

 

Why is explorer restarting each time? This doesn't seem like what you would want to have happen.

 

I would love to stop using the other method for getting Quick Launch back (ExplorerPatcher) since it is limiting a few other things that I use, but right now I can't have my explorer disappear each time I touch my Quick Launch area. I really, really hope you can fix this and it wasn't done this way on purpose.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
Neil Banfield
Join Date 04/2001
+1033 sdemployee
Reply #6 June 7, 2023 3:20:59 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting crookslaura,
reply 5

I am unsure if this issue existed before, but I am using the Shortcuts list in Start11 to create a Quick Launch "Display as menu" item (I still don't understand why Quick Launch had to be removed from Windows!). I can relearn where to go for my Quick Launch menu BUT when I click it (just to view the menu structure - I don't actually choose anything) my Taskbar and any Explorers that are open are restarted. This isn't workable as I lose whatever folder I had open in Explorer. 

 

Why is explorer restarting each time? This doesn't seem like what you would want to have happen.

 

I would love to stop using the other method for getting Quick Launch back (ExplorerPatcher) since it is limiting a few other things that I use, but right now I can't have my explorer disappear each time I touch my Quick Launch area. I really, really hope you can fix this and it wasn't done this way on purpose.

Are you using Dragon naturally speaking or similar?

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
gugl
Join Date 11/2006
0
Reply #7 June 7, 2023 4:32:47 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

With latest version of Start11 (1.45) all icons and time on taskbar became little bit upper than usual (I have taskbar on the top of screen because using ObjectDock). Before update to latest version everything was ok.

Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.1702

 

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
crookslaura
Join Date 09/2014
0
Reply #8 June 7, 2023 4:38:35 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 6


Quoting crookslaura,
reply 5

I am unsure if this issue existed before, but I am using the Shortcuts list in Start11 to create a Quick Launch "Display as menu" item (I still don't understand why Quick Launch had to be removed from Windows!). I can relearn where to go for my Quick Launch menu BUT when I click it (just to view the menu structure - I don't actually choose anything) my Taskbar and any Explorers that are open are restarted. This isn't workable as I lose whatever folder I had open in Explorer. 

 

Why is explorer restarting each time? This doesn't seem like what you would want to have happen.

 

I would love to stop using the other method for getting Quick Launch back (ExplorerPatcher) since it is limiting a few other things that I use, but right now I can't have my explorer disappear each time I touch my Quick Launch area. I really, really hope you can fix this and it wasn't done this way on purpose.



Are you using Dragon naturally speaking or similar?

 

I do not use Dragon or anything like that.  -- sorry, I was trying to reply to your question, but it puts it down at the bottom of the list.

 

To explain more, I added my Quick Launch area and Display as Menu as shown below:

This added a little folder icon directly above the Power icon in the Start menu. When I click on that folder icon and view that menu (I can choose something or just do nothing at all), when I click away or the item I chose is launched my Taskbar disappears along with any Explorer windows I had open. After explorer.exe restarts, then the Taskbar returns, but I have to launch an Explorer again.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
Neil Banfield
Join Date 04/2001
+1033 sdemployee
Reply #9 June 7, 2023 4:47:46 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting gugl,
reply 7

With latest version of Start11 (1.45) all icons and time on taskbar became little bit upper than usual (I have taskbar on the top of screen because using ObjectDock). Before update to latest version everything was ok.



Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.1702

 

If you set the taskbar height to normal does it continue?

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
gugl
Join Date 11/2006
0
Reply #10 June 7, 2023 5:50:31 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 9


Quoting gugl,
reply 7

With latest version of Start11 (1.45) all icons and time on taskbar became little bit upper than usual (I have taskbar on the top of screen because using ObjectDock). Before update to latest version everything was ok.



Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.1702

 



If you set the taskbar height to normal does it continue?

You mean in this menu? Sorry I use Russian language and it set on 'middle' (средний).

 

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
sb_41
Join Date 01/2008
+7
Reply #11 June 8, 2023 2:12:04 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Windows 11 22621.1702

For whatever reason, I've lost the ability to trigger the Start11 menu using any of the Start Menu/super keyboard keys. Whenever one of the keys is pressed, the default Microsoft menu appears. This is regardless of what settings I have set in Start11.

Screenshot of Start11 6/7/2023

+1
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
Neil Banfield
Join Date 04/2001
+1033 sdemployee
Reply #12 June 8, 2023 4:16:08 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting sb_41,
reply 11

Windows 11 22621.1702

For whatever reason, I've lost the ability to trigger the Start11 menu using any of the Start Menu/super keyboard keys. Whenever one of the keys is pressed, the default Microsoft menu appears. This is regardless of what settings I have set in Start11.

Screenshot of Start11 6/7/2023

You need to update to Start 11 1.45.

If you have that then uninstall, REBOOT and reinstall.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
gugl
Join Date 11/2006
0
Reply #13 June 8, 2023 7:20:22 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting gugl,
reply 7

With latest version of Start11 (1.45) all icons and time on taskbar became little bit upper than usual (I have taskbar on the top of screen because using ObjectDock). Before update to latest version everything was ok.



Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.1702

 

Downgraded to 1.44, everything looks good:

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
Neil Banfield
Join Date 04/2001
+1033 sdemployee
Reply #14 June 8, 2023 8:18:06 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting gugl,
reply 13


Quoting gugl,
reply 7

With latest version of Start11 (1.45) all icons and time on taskbar became little bit upper than usual (I have taskbar on the top of screen because using ObjectDock). Before update to latest version everything was ok.



Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.1702

 



Downgraded to 1.44, everything looks good:


Can you post some specifics about your setup?

Is this a tablet, or a machine with touch?

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
gugl
Join Date 11/2006
0
Reply #15 June 8, 2023 8:26:48 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 14


Quoting gugl,
reply 13






Quoting gugl,

reply 7


With latest version of Start11 (1.45) all icons and time on taskbar became little bit upper than usual (I have taskbar on the top of screen because using ObjectDock). Before update to latest version everything was ok.



Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.1702

 



Downgraded to 1.44, everything looks good:





Can you post some specifics about your setup?

Is this a tablet, or a machine with touch?

Acer Predator Triton 500 SE laptop.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
D G Billingham
Join Date 02/2014
0
Reply #16 June 8, 2023 2:36:29 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Windows 11 Mail & Calander Icons loose their image when set to small tile, seems to be ok in all other sizes.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
PavelP
Join Date 11/2012
+14
Reply #17 June 8, 2023 5:08:43 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

"Additional fixes that we believe address some of the reported compatibility issues with the KB5026446 Windows 11 release."

This issue seems to have largely been resolved, albeit not fully -- as it is still possible to trigger it. When certain applications are in the foreground, the Windows 11 Start menu appears upon pressing WinKey.

For instance, when I run Paragon Backup & Recovery 17 Community Edition -- and the program is in the foreground -- pressing WinKey results in said behavior. Minimizing the program makes the Start11 Start menu appear correctly upon pressing WinKey once again.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
sb_41
Join Date 01/2008
+7
Reply #18 June 9, 2023 12:47:31 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 12


Quoting sb_41,
reply 11

Windows 11 22621.1702

For whatever reason, I've lost the ability to trigger the Start11 menu using any of the Start Menu/super keyboard keys. Whenever one of the keys is pressed, the default Microsoft menu appears. This is regardless of what settings I have set in Start11.

Screenshot of Start11 6/7/2023



You need to update to Start 11 1.45.

If you have that then uninstall, REBOOT and reinstall.

 

Tried all that. Still the same behavior.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
basj
Join Date 03/2001
+1516 sdemployee
Reply #19 June 9, 2023 2:16:25 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting sb_41,
reply 18

Tried all that. Still the same behavior.

Please try purge and reinstall steps as mention here : [Link]. Just make sure to redownload the latest version from your account page. Reboot after the purge. Reinstall and reboot again after the installation. Retest and report back here.

Thank you,
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
PavelP
Join Date 11/2012
+14
Reply #20 June 9, 2023 4:03:30 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

By the way, pressing CTRL+ESC still brings up the Windows 11 Start menu. Is this by design?

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
Neil Banfield
Join Date 04/2001
+1033 sdemployee
Reply #21 June 9, 2023 4:29:53 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting PavelP,
reply 20

By the way, pressing CTRL+ESC still brings up the Windows 11 Start menu. Is this by design?

Changes in the OS alter how those shortcuts are handled and we implemented a workaround for Win key only.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
TPScroggins
Join Date 03/2022
+82 sdsupport
Reply #22 June 9, 2023 8:31:11 AM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting sb_41,
reply 18


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 12






Quoting sb_41,

reply 11


Windows 11 22621.1702

For whatever reason, I've lost the ability to trigger the Start11 menu using any of the Start Menu/super keyboard keys. Whenever one of the keys is pressed, the default Microsoft menu appears. This is regardless of what settings I have set in Start11.

Screenshot of Start11 6/7/2023



You need to update to Start 11 1.45.

If you have that then uninstall, REBOOT and reinstall.



 

Tried all that. Still the same behavior.

Are you running Explorer Patcher or similar software?

 

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
INTREPID-LI
Join Date 03/2008
+5
Reply #23 June 9, 2023 12:10:32 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

This bug has not been fixed yet:

Start11 Search Menu Blank Occasionally requiring reboot

https://forums.stardock.com/515271/page/1/

 

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
sb_41
Join Date 01/2008
+7
Reply #24 June 9, 2023 3:01:16 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting TPScroggins,
reply 22

Are you running Explorer Patcher or similar software?

 
Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst


I am running WPD with defaults enabled, as well as some stuff tweaked via Ultimate Windows Tweaker 5. But nothing that patches the Explorer process (both in-memory at runtime or the executable itself). Everything modified are Group Policy Objects or registry tweaks already available from Microsoft in stock Windows 11.

Quoting basj,
reply 19

Please try purge and reinstall steps as mention here : [Link]. Just make sure to redownload the latest version from your account page. Reboot after the purge. Reinstall and reboot again after the installation. Retest and report back here.

Thank you,
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.


Really trying to avoid a purge. I use the Windows 10-like menu and have everything organized into super visual subgroups so I can find almost any program I have installed at a quick glance in my specific order (yay adhd hahaha). Purging the whole program and rebuilding that menu config from scratch by dragging/dropping every single icon again is going to give me a headache that lasts a whole afternoon.

 

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
sdrohan
Neil Banfield
Join Date 04/2001
+1033 sdemployee
Reply #25 June 9, 2023 3:08:51 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Quoting sb_41,
reply 24


Quoting TPScroggins,
reply 22

Are you running Explorer Patcher or similar software?

 
Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst





I am running WPD with defaults enabled, as well as some stuff tweaked via Ultimate Windows Tweaker 5. But nothing that patches the Explorer process (both in-memory at runtime or the executable itself). Everything modified are Group Policy Objects or registry tweaks already available from Microsoft in stock Windows 11.




Quoting basj,
reply 19

Please try purge and reinstall steps as mention here : [Link]. Just make sure to redownload the latest version from your account page. Reboot after the purge. Reinstall and reboot again after the installation. Retest and report back here.

Thank you,
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.



Really trying to avoid a purge. I use the Windows 10-like menu and have everything organized into super visual subgroups so I can find almost any program I have installed at a quick glance in my specific order (yay adhd hahaha). Purging the whole program and rebuilding that menu config from scratch by dragging/dropping every single icon again is going to give me a headache that lasts a whole afternoon.

 

Have you perhaps messed with UAC?

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
3 Pages1 2 3 
Stardock Forums v        Server Load Time:   Page Render Time: