Hmm... I don't really feel like waiting to mail things etc.. [which I'm more than willing to do ] so can anyone [admins?] e-mail me @ webmaster@spyderbyte.ca and perhaps we can set up an account for me via my paypal account? - I know I know, I'm one of those "need results now" kinda people - but the sooner I get you people the cash you need, the sooner I get my subscription - Everyone wins here hehe - If not, no biggie... take care all......

So why buy a sub that I will never use fully?

How do you know you wont use it to its fullest?
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...footnote: besides, snail-mail from CanaDUH is bad enough, especially if there's a hold at the border...

Odd... I only want a subscription so I can download more wallpapers..[lol]... The programs themselves hold no interest for me hehe... Maybe I'm a minority? hehe.. [just a thought, since most people seem to purchase a subscription for more than the basic wallpapers]

How do you know you wont use it to its fullest?

Well because I use style xp once in awhile and DLs are free over there.

And to be blunt, I do not want any more StarDock products. I have had my fill. The dock is as far as i go.

kona, if your not going to use any stardock programs, then don't buy any. If your going to camp here at WC and download things and post on the message board, then a subscription wouldn't be to much to ask.Even if you don't use it.

I made my contribution in another way.

half you guys call me a cheater
half praise me

who cares? I still have a library of OD icons.

$20=Library of OD icons?

The browser has a message board section as well as access to Stardock chat channels, you know. Anyway what is the dif between a donation and a subscription that you never download? And, IMO, arguments like these are the sticking points to the *respect* issue. Even silence would have been better than this slap-in-the-face approach. You know people here have deep feelings for the place and will rise up in an instant to defend it. What price is a little silence? Especially if it buys you peace.

Kind of like the physician's pledge... at least strive to do no harm.
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Kona, my point is, then why claim that you want to help out when it's clear that it's really not worth the effort to you? You think talking about it is the same as actually doing it? A number of people subscribed (myself included) not because they use all the features that come with a subscription, or because they get this or that treat, but because they want to support the site. That's what it's about, not whether or not we use X or Y or want to rate or not. It's to support the site. Period.

A lot of *your* comments are not appreciated, Kona, as you well know. And sometimes some of us who usually ignore your BS or try to be understanding (as I have been) just lose patience. As I did in this case. Don't want to subscribe, fine, don't. But don't go on about how you'd like to help and then lame out. That's just BS. Don't like to be called on it? Don't do it then. Simple.

[relatively new to this site.....]

Go to the library and print off a form, that simple. sheesh if you don't want a wincustomize subscription don't open your mouth and no nasties will fly back in. I only got mine to help support Wincustomize.

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Even silence would have been better than this slap-in-the-face approach.

silence was my course until you opened your mouth.

I did not start this argument; you guys asked a question and I answered. If you do not like it i am sorry.

Even blunter: 20 bucks is better of in my pocket than Brads.

Go to the library and print off a form

no printer.....

I originally subscribed because the site was having bandwidth problems last yeara and needed subscription money to purchase more bandwidth.

Since that has been done time and again, with the site going from turtle speed to a bearable speed, I consider it money well spent.

no printer.....

Buy one, they're not that expensive...

kona, maybe you need to donate some money to your library instead so they can get a printer.

/me splits this disfunction junction... ta ta Kona....

This is funny!

The quest for Wincustomize subscriptions is exactly that....to help the site prosper, and has little or nothing to do with Stardock at all.

The ideal is that Wincustomize.com, as an entity can [as much as possible] pay its own way.

Since the recent demise of the Server and the ensuing database restoration, etc it's important that the site stand a bit better on its own two legs financially without such a massive influx of funding from Stardock's coffers.

Anyone really frequenting the site and 'enjoying' its use should ideally see that it is in his/her interest to assist in the site's viability, that's all...

Most people come to realise that a community is about 'give and take' but perhaps others maybe forget it's a two-way street...

Buy one, they're not that expensive...

on my list to do after:

the power bill and
the cable bill and
the natual gas bill and
rent and
DSL bill and
gas for my car.

I am broke as a joke.

YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW HOW TO SUPPORT PEOPLE DON'T YOU?

Lord forbid someone has a real problem.

Your all a joke.

Then get off WC and pay them...

ummm....then why offer to help Wincustomize in the first place?... *confused*

Most people come to realise that a community is about 'give and take' but perhaps others maybe forget it's a two-way street...

never will be a 2 way street with me.

I have nothing in the way of money to give.

I have no credit cards or debit cards.

So even if i had a printer I would not have the money to back it up.

And I am NOT going to pawn my stuff just to support this site.
I have worked to hard for the things i have witch isn't that much.

ummm....then why offer to help Wincustomize in the first place?...

I can help with paypal. I have money there but thats the only place I have it.