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Start11 1.43 Beta Feedback Thread

Start11 1.43 Beta Feedback Thread

With the Star11 1.43 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #51 Top

Quoting Beguile, reply 50

The download list 1.4.3 beta but the link is still Start11_1.4.2.1-j302-Setup.exe
End of Beguile's quote

Woops... My fault.

You can use this link or wait 15 min and Ctrl + F5 on your account page and it will work:

https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.4.3-j303-Setup.exe

ty for the heads up, Beguile.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

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Reply #52 Top

Triple 1440p monitors, Win11.

I like to show text for open apps in the taskbar, but I also want to have the start button centred. This worked before the Windows update (and a few Start11 versions ago).

Now I can have the labels and start button on the left OR no labels and a centred button. I know the option to centre the start button shows "as experimental" in the settings, but it would be great if that ability returned.

Reply #53 Top

Quoting vertixyz, reply 52

Triple 1440p monitors, Win11.

I like to show text for open apps in the taskbar, but I also want to have the start button centred. This worked before the Windows update (and a few Start11 versions ago).

Now I can have the labels and start button on the left OR no labels and a centred button. I know the option to centre the start button shows "as experimental" in the settings, but it would be great if that ability returned.
End of vertixyz's quote

Unfortunately due to OS changes that centre option is currently limited to 2 or less monitors.  We continue to investigate workarounds for this.

Reply #54 Top

Please 2 requests again in Windows 10 style:

1) Drag icon from start menu to desktop

2) Ability to change the default size of pinned icons. No matter what I select within the configuration options, it always pins 'Medium'

Reply #55 Top

Using the latest 1.4.3_j303 release and another patch from MS all of my taskbar icons are clipped and can't see them completely.

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎2/‎16/‎2023
OS build    22621.1485
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

I have option to allow Start11 to enhance turned on, and I unlocked and expanded to two rows.  Size is set to medium, but the issue is the same on any option I choose for the size.

Reply #56 Top

Quoting dcmarquardt, reply 55

Using the latest 1.4.3_j303 release and another patch from MS all of my taskbar icons are clipped and can't see them completely.

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎2/‎16/‎2023
OS build    22621.1485
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

I have option to allow Start11 to enhance turned on, and I unlocked and expanded to two rows.  Size is set to medium, but the issue is the same on any option I choose for the size.

End of dcmarquardt's quote

I cannot reproduce your issue on my system, I'd suggest uninstalling S11, reboot, and reinstall from a fresh download (almost make sure you are not running any other similar products)

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

Reply #57 Top

Windows 11. 22H2. 22624.1470

After upgrade to this beta version when I push the Win Key it opens the Windows 11 menu, not Start 11 as before. If I click over the icon them opens Start11. I tried some things without solve it:

  • In the Control section, unselected "show windows menu when you..." The three options. Restarted the PC, activated again, restarted again. It continues without work right.
  • I uninstalled Start11, restarted and installed again. It continues without working.

Are there any solution or is it a bug?
Thank you for the support.

 

Reply #58 Top

Quoting jose17, reply 57

Windows 11. 22H2. 22624.1470

After upgrade to this beta version when I push the Win Key it opens the Windows 11 menu, not Start 11 as before. If I click over the icon them opens Start11. I tried some things without solve it:

 

    • In the Control section, unselected "show windows menu when you..." The three options. Restarted the PC, activated again, restarted again. It continues without work right.

 

    • I uninstalled Start11, restarted and installed again. It continues without working.

 


Are there any solution or is it a bug?
Thank you for the support.

 

End of jose17's quote

It is not recommended to use Microsoft internal builds.  I would strongly recommend unless you have actual need to revert back to release builds when possible.

That said 1.43 was updated to resolve this.

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Reply #59 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 58

It is not recommended to use Microsoft internal builds.  I would strongly recommend unless you have actual need to revert back to release builds when possible.

That said 1.43 was updated to resolve this.
End of Neil's quote


Thank you, the upgrade solve the problem

Reply #60 Top

I deactivated my current installation, uninstalled and told it to remove everything including settings, rebooted.  Installed using the latest 1.4.3_j303build posted here.  So far so good.  I entered my license key and reactivated, opened the settings.   I set the first tab to "Windows 10 style" for the start menu, "Use Start11 Start Menu" option is enabled.  Next I clicked on Taskbar on the left side, I enabled the option for "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" and "Toolbar buttons should be combined..." to "NEVER" option.  This is what my screen looks like:

Single screen setup, 3840x12160(recommended) resolution, scaling is set to 150%,. in the windows settings under scaling, (recommended) is next to 250% which just makes everything on my screen huge and unusable, I have tried setting it to 175% 125%, and there is little change, but at this point it's worse than before I re-installed.

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Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎2/‎16/‎2023
OS build    22621.1485
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0
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edit: I do not now, nor have I ever had any similar products installed, this is a fresh copy of windows that was just installed in the last 3-4 weeks.

Reply #61 Top

Quoting dcmarquardt, reply 60

I deactivated my current installation, uninstalled and told it to remove everything including settings, rebooted.  Installed using the latest 1.4.3_j303build posted here.  So far so good.  I entered my license key and reactivated, opened the settings.   I set the first tab to "Windows 10 style" for the start menu, "Use Start11 Start Menu" option is enabled.  Next I clicked on Taskbar on the left side, I enabled the option for "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" and "Toolbar buttons should be combined..." to "NEVER" option.  This is what my screen looks like:

Single screen setup, 3840x12160(recommended) resolution, scaling is set to 150%,. in the windows settings under scaling, (recommended) is next to 250% which just makes everything on my screen huge and unusable, I have tried setting it to 175% 125%, and there is little change, but at this point it's worse than before I re-installed.

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Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎2/‎16/‎2023
OS build    22621.1485
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0
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edit: I do not now, nor have I ever had any similar products installed, this is a fresh copy of windows that was just installed in the last 3-4 weeks.
End of dcmarquardt's quote

Is this a tablet PC?

Do you have an option in Windows to enable the touch optimized taskbar and if so is this enabled?

Reply #63 Top

Quoting dcmarquardt, reply 62

Not a tablet not a touchscreen.



 
End of dcmarquardt's quote

It seems windows thinks differently as you have the touch option showing which isn't an option unless you have touch support?

What exactly is your machine?

Reply #64 Top

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System Information
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Product Name:                 MSSI Raider GE76 12UHS
OS:                           Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-bit Ver.2009(OS build 22621.1485)
BIOS Version:                 E17K4IMS.209
BIOS Release Date:            2022/09/13
CPU:                          12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900HK
Memory:                       64 GB @ 2400 MHz
                               - 32 GB, DDR5-4800, Kingston KF548S38-32         
                               - 32 GB, DDR5-4800, Kingston KF548S38-32         
Graphics:                     NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, 16384 MB
Graphics:                     Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics, 1024 MB

 

 

Reply #65 Top

Quoting dcmarquardt, reply 64



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System Information
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Product Name:                 MSSI Raider GE76 12UHS
OS:                           Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-bit Ver.2009(OS build 22621.1485)
BIOS Version:                 E17K4IMS.209
BIOS Release Date:            2022/09/13
CPU:                          12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900HK
Memory:                       64 GB @ 2400 MHz
                               - 32 GB, DDR5-4800, Kingston KF548S38-32         
                               - 32 GB, DDR5-4800, Kingston KF548S38-32         
Graphics:                     NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, 16384 MB
Graphics:                     Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics, 1024 MB

 



 
End of dcmarquardt's quote

Thats very odd as you appear to have the OS thinking you do have the touch taskbar as an option which has put the taskbar in a different mode.  Start11 is then confused as it knows you shouldn't have that as an option so isn't compensating for the strange touch taskbar.

End result you have the OS showing you options you shouldn't have and Start11 having a misaligned taskbar.

Reply #67 Top

When exiting a full screen app, often times the taskbar gets reset to the wrong color (blue).  It gets set to the correct color again after switching windows around.

Also I'm still experincing the bug where programs aren't added to the task bar initially.  This happens very frequently when launching Steam.  I posted about this before and here's an example video showing the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDYXtiJ03cs

Reply #68 Top

Hi

Ever since the windows 11 taskbar update a few weeks ago, ive been having this issue with the notification panel appearing on the left side of the screen whilst using start11 enhanced taskbar option.

I originally had this problem with 1.41. I have since tested 1.42beta and now 1.43beta. The problem continues to exist.

I did raise this issue on the forum a few weeks ago when i first noticed it happening. But the issue was dismissed based on the idea that start11 doesnt affect the notification panel. However after further tests im certain start11 is causing this issue.

Prior to the windows 11 taskbar update i never used the enhanced taskbar option in start11. The only reason i use it now is because its the only way to make the taskbar size smaller since the windows 11 update. Im not sure if the taskbar size being set to small has anything to do it the problem. All i know is the problem only occurs when enhanced taskbar is enabled, and if i disable enhanced taskbar then the problem is fixed and doesnt return unless i re-enable enhanced taskbar again.

Ive tried googling the problem and struggle to find anything about what causes the notification panel to appear on the left side of the screen, until recently. I found another person who has the exact same problem as me, except he is using a different piece of software called StartAllBack which i beleive does a similar job as start11 does. Here is a link the the post with the problem on that software just to show it does exist https://www.elevenforum.com/t/change-windows-11-notification-panel-position.5821/

Id love to see the problem be fixed or atleast acknowledged because it bugs the hell out of me.

 

Reply #69 Top

Quoting KinGloR, reply 68

Hi

Ever since the windows 11 taskbar update a few weeks ago, ive been having this issue with the notification panel appearing on the left side of the screen whilst using start11 enhanced taskbar option.

I originally had this problem with 1.41. I have since tested 1.42beta and now 1.43beta. The problem continues to exist.

I did raise this issue on the forum a few weeks ago when i first noticed it happening. But the issue was dismissed based on the idea that start11 doesnt affect the notification panel. However after further tests im certain start11 is causing this issue.

Prior to the windows 11 taskbar update i never used the enhanced taskbar option in start11. The only reason i use it now is because its the only way to make the taskbar size smaller since the windows 11 update. Im not sure if the taskbar size being set to small has anything to do it the problem. All i know is the problem only occurs when enhanced taskbar is enabled, and if i disable enhanced taskbar then the problem is fixed and doesnt return unless i re-enable enhanced taskbar again.

Ive tried googling the problem and struggle to find anything about what causes the notification panel to appear on the left side of the screen, until recently. I found another person who has the exact same problem as me, except he is using a different piece of software called StartAllBack which i beleive does a similar job as start11 does. Here is a link the the post with the problem on that software just to show it does exist https://www.elevenforum.com/t/change-windows-11-notification-panel-position.5821/

Id love to see the problem be fixed or atleast acknowledged because it bugs the hell out of me.

 


End of KinGloR's quote

That should have been fixed in 1.43 (and has for most), I suggest uninstalling S11, reboot, and reinstall the 1.43 beta

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

Reply #70 Top

I am currently using 1.43 however i updated from 1.42. I will uninstall and reinstall to see if that works though. Thanks

Reply #71 Top

Just a heads up that Start11 1.43 Was released today:

https://forums.stardock.com/517981/start11-143-release-feedback-thread

As a result, we will be closing this beta thread.

As always, thanks for time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager