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Start11 1.43 Release Feedback Thread

April 3, 2023 12:26:52 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

With the Start11 1.43 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #1 April 3, 2023 12:28:00 PM
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Start11 1.43 Changelog (Released 04/03/2023)

04/04/2023

Pushed live on Steam

04/03/2023

Pushed live for Stardock.com purchases.

03/24/2023

  • UI versioned updated to 1.43 (file version 1.4.3.0)

  • Detects canary channel as insider as well

  • Brings the winkey fix from old dev channel builds over to beta channel fixes and above

03/23/2023

  • Updated localization for new strings

03/22/2023

  • File version 1.4.2.1. UI version 1.42

  • Better support for larger start buttons on KB5022913

  • Improved compatibility with touch mode taskbar on KB5022913

  • Resolved an issue that could cause the taskbar contents to shift down after a DPI change sometimes

  • Added in new UI strings to warn users about changing the taskbar size needing enhanced taskbar enabled and likewise for autohide

  • Added new size on KB5022913 called Small with wide icon spacing which is small height but pads out the buttons wider as it did on previous OSes

03/16/2023

  • Start11 UI ‘About’ will read 1.42

  • Fix for WinX menu appearing far left when right-clicking centered Start11 menu (Windows 11 only currently)

  • Further tweaks for > 2 monitor setups

  • Adjusted small taskbar buttons to be slightly wider on 22H2 KB5022913

  • Fixed some tablet PC taskbar issues

  • Now supports wider start buttons but only when enhanced taskbar is enabled AND for primary monitor only if you have > 2 monitors

  • Fixed some search positioning issues

3/10/2023

  • Further tweaks to stop a repaint issue with icons showing under the tray icons in a very rare situation on Win11 KB5022913

03/08/2023

  • Fixes the windows menu not working right when using center mode in S11 and using search box mode on the taskbar and using enhance taskbar in S11 along with using the Windows menu vs ours.

  • Another tweak to finally sort out that taskbar, without blur, resetting to 100% solid mode ‘after running games’ issue

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Reply #2 April 3, 2023 12:28:46 PM
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Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

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Reply #3 April 3, 2023 12:28:59 PM
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Reply #4 April 4, 2023 5:42:38 PM
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Hallo,

 

is it normal that the "calendar pop up" stays at the bottom even if I selected that the taskbar should be on the uper edge?

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Reply #5 April 5, 2023 8:49:40 AM
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That normal. They cant change it since its hard-coded by Microsoft. Its why you dont see left/right taskbar options as well since its not codded under windows 11.

Quoting sintemal,
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Hallo,
is it normal that the "calendar pop up" stays at the bottom even if I selected that the taskbar should be on the uper edge?

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Reply #6 April 5, 2023 12:18:13 PM
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After installing 1.43 the start icon and the whole notification area is rendered too low. I tried uninstall and clean reinstall with the same result.

 

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Reply #7 April 5, 2023 6:51:58 PM
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Quoting info1731,
reply 6

After installing 1.43 the start icon and the whole notification area is rendered too low. I tried uninstall and clean reinstall with the same result.



 

Does your windows taskbar settings menu offer you touch optimized taskbar?

What is your hardware and what version of Windows exactly are you using?

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Reply #8 April 6, 2023 5:37:55 AM
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Please 2 requests again in Windows 10 style:

1) Drag icon from start menu to desktop

2) Ability to change the default size of pinned icons. No matter what I select within the configuration options, it always pins 'Medium'

 

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Reply #9 April 6, 2023 10:32:28 PM
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Yes, touch enabled is available. I tried to check/uncheck it; no difference.

It's Surface Laptop 3 (AMD version):
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 Microsoft Surface (R) Edition   2.30 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (14.0 GB usable)

Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎11/‎12/‎2022
OS build 22621.1485
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Please, let me know if you need anything else.

David.

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Reply #10 April 7, 2023 2:11:31 PM
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On Surface Pro 7, Win Build 22621.1413, when in tablet mode, a swipe up on the tablet taskbar always opens the stock Win11 start menu. Tapping the Windows icon does load the Start11 start menu. Is there a way to either make no start menu appear on swipe up (just the windows button and the open apps buttons) or make Start11 appear instead of the Win11 start menu?

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Reply #11 April 7, 2023 4:00:37 PM
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Quoting klef25,
reply 10

On Surface Pro 7, Win Build 22621.1413, when in tablet mode, a swipe up on the tablet taskbar always opens the stock Win11 start menu. Tapping the Windows icon does load the Start11 start menu. Is there a way to either make no start menu appear on swipe up (just the windows button and the open apps buttons) or make Start11 appear instead of the Win11 start menu?

I am afraid the swipe action is a non standard thing which Start11 isn't aware of currently.

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Reply #12 April 8, 2023 9:32:04 AM
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Ino you don't support Insider builds but something broke taskbar transparency again either the latest Win 11 build or V1.43

both updated and solid taskbar even tho you can change % nothing happens

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Reply #13 April 8, 2023 1:43:38 PM
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Quoting Dazlin1,
reply 12

Ino you don't support Insider builds but something broke taskbar transparency again either the latest Win 11 build or V1.43

both updated and solid taskbar even tho you can change % nothing happens

What build of Windows are you using exactly?

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Reply #14 April 8, 2023 2:02:14 PM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 13


Quoting Dazlin1,
reply 12

Ino you don't support Insider builds but something broke taskbar transparency again either the latest Win 11 build or V1.43

both updated and solid taskbar even tho you can change % nothing happens



What build of Windows are you using exactly?

Latest build from the Beta channel 22624.1546. I updated to that build and V1.43 this morning.

There was a tickbox blur one I unticked in taskbar transparency settings that took it from solid back to almost invisible where the slider worked 

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Reply #15 April 8, 2023 2:15:16 PM
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Quoting Dazlin1,
reply 14


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 13






Quoting Dazlin1,

reply 12


Ino you don't support Insider builds but something broke taskbar transparency again either the latest Win 11 build or V1.43

both updated and solid taskbar even tho you can change % nothing happens



What build of Windows are you using exactly?



Latest build from the Beta channel 22624.1546. I updated to that build and V1.43 this morning.

There was a tickbox blur one I unticked in taskbar transparency settings that took it from solid back to almost invisible where the slider worked 

It sounds like you may have set the OS to disable transparency effects in Windows settings?  That will force all blurs to solid.

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Reply #16 April 8, 2023 3:33:04 PM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 15


Quoting Dazlin1,
reply 14






Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 13










Quoting Dazlin1,



reply 12




Ino you don't support Insider builds but something broke taskbar transparency again either the latest Win 11 build or V1.43

both updated and solid taskbar even tho you can change % nothing happens




What build of Windows are you using exactly?




Latest build from the Beta channel 22624.1546. I updated to that build and V1.43 this morning.

There was a tickbox blur one I unticked in taskbar transparency settings that took it from solid back to almost invisible where the slider worked 



It sounds like you may have set the OS to disable transparency effects in Windows settings?  That will force all blurs to solid.

Thx will check and update thread 

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Reply #17 April 9, 2023 8:41:51 AM
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Can you guys add language options?

The quality of the translation in my native language is poor and I'd rather use English but there is no option to change the language.

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Reply #18 April 9, 2023 11:14:00 AM
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Quoting jake7578,
reply 17

Can you guys add language options?

The quality of the translation in my native language is poor and I'd rather use English but there is no option to change the language.

Which language are you using as that's a concern?

You could stop the translation and switch to English by deleting the files in the lang sub folder where Start11 is installed.

 

 

 

 

 

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Reply #19 April 9, 2023 11:22:07 AM
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Quoting Dazlin1,
reply 16

 

Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 15






Quoting Dazlin1,

reply 14










Quoting Neil Banfield,



reply 13















Quoting Dazlin1,





reply 12






Ino you don't support Insider builds but something broke taskbar transparency again either the latest Win 11 build or V1.43

both updated and solid taskbar even tho you can change % nothing happens





What build of Windows are you using exactly?





Latest build from the Beta channel 22624.1546. I updated to that build and V1.43 this morning.

There was a tickbox blur one I unticked in taskbar transparency settings that took it from solid back to almost invisible where the slider worked 




It sounds like you may have set the OS to disable transparency effects in Windows settings?  That will force all blurs to solid.



Thx will check and update thread 

Checked and you was correct Neil haven’t a clue how the windows settings were turned off but all sorted now

much appreciated for your help 

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Reply #20 April 11, 2023 2:21:09 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 7


Quoting info1731,
reply 6

After installing 1.43 the start icon and the whole notification area is rendered too low. I tried uninstall and clean reinstall with the same result.



 



Does your windows taskbar settings menu offer you touch optimized taskbar?

What is your hardware and what version of Windows exactly are you using?

 

 

 

I have the same issue. I first thought it was due to a recent Windows update, but it was still there after I removed it.
Uninstalled Start11, and the issue disappeared.

Reinstalled Start11, and started looking for this issue online. Something kind of related has happened previously. User found that switching off Enhanced Taskbar helped his problem. I did the same, and now the clock, etc, are as they should be. However, this now means being stuck with medium taskbar size.  Problem only started following recent Start11 update.

Edition    Windows 11 Home
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎23/‎12/‎22
OS build    22621.1413
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Device    Inspiron 5482
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.30 GHz
Installed RAM    8.00 GB (7.78 GB usable)
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Enhanced on

Enhanced Off

 

 

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Reply #21 April 11, 2023 10:56:58 AM
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Same issue on my Surface tablet. 

Restarting Explorer fixes the issue temporarily.

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Reply #22 April 11, 2023 11:11:34 PM
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Edition Windows 11 Pro

Version 22H2

OS build 22621.1555

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22640.1000.0

Dual monitor with taskbar on top on both monitors.

Start11 1.43

 

Strange behaviors in taskbar and title bar after waking the laptop, occurs in external monitor.

1. The taskbar is not shown and a blank space is show at the bottom of the screen that resembles the taskbar. If the app is minimized then the taskbar appears but covers the title bar. Shown in 2 below. Also applications cannot be resized until an explorer restart.

 

2. Taskbar covers title bars.

 

 

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Reply #23 April 12, 2023 11:12:38 AM
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Same issue as a few others on a touch enabled W11 device.  In my case, specs are:

  • HP Elite x2 1013 G3
  • Core i7-8650U CPU
  • 8GB RAM
  • Windows 11 Pro 22H2
    • OS Build: 22621.1555

This device has very little installed (OS for email/web browsing).  The issue with the offset start button/system tray occurred after the latest upgrade to Start 11.  Restarting Explorer from the Start 11 interface doesn't fix the issue at all.  I've gone so far as to uninstall, remove settings, cleared folders/paths (for Stardock), and reinstalled (with reboots in between steps) but still have the same issue.

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Reply #24 April 12, 2023 11:58:51 AM
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Quoting RogCo,
reply 23

Same issue as a few others on a touch enabled W11 device.  In my case, specs are:

    • HP Elite x2 1013 G3
    • Core i7-8650U CPU
    • 8GB RAM
    • Windows 11 Pro 22H2

        • OS Build: 22621.1555


This device has very little installed (OS for email/web browsing).  The issue with the offset start button/system tray occurred after the latest upgrade to Start 11.  Restarting Explorer from the Start 11 interface doesn't fix the issue at all.  I've gone so far as to uninstall, remove settings, cleared folders/paths (for Stardock), and reinstalled (with reboots in between steps) but still have the same issue.


If you change the height of the taskbar manually, does it resolve it?  If so and If you then put it back to the lower height, does it stay fixed?

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

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Reply #25 April 12, 2023 10:50:08 PM
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Unfortunately it doesn't.  Tried this before and after the re-install of Start11.

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