Quoting vincentw, reply 8

Quoting sdRohan,

reply 7

Quoting vincentw,

reply 6

No, it isn't. I don't have anything there. The last BETAs had it listed in the OP for each one.

Depending on the product you have, it should be listed on your account page as such:

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Or under your OD license:



Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Should be but isn't. This is all I have. If I go to my orders, it is there, but no beta.

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That tells me the account you are showing does not own it.  If you own it under another account, log in under it.

Either way, if you cant find it, this is a ticket request item:

https://stardock.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/4

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Auto hide taskbar enabled

Taskbar aligned to the LEFT.

Result: Taskbar stuck in the middle and not showing clock/date.

Windows 11 22000.556

Also, I can't drag and drop files to hidden taskbar because when I point the mouse cursor while dragging a file, the taskbar doesn't appear to me.

Quoting BerserkerZ, reply 27

Auto hide taskbar enabled

Taskbar aligned to the LEFT.

Result: Taskbar stuck in the middle and not showing clock/date.



 



Windows 11 22000.556

 

Also, I can't drag and drop files to hidden taskbar because when I point the mouse cursor while dragging a file, the taskbar doesn't appear to me.

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How many monitors do you have and what configuration?

It seems that the taskbar does not fully respect when an app is full-screen, like a Remote Desktop Connection.  When in the session, the local taskbar pops up when the mouse cursor is near/at the bottom.  It should never appear in this situation.

Quoting dsandbrand, reply 29

It seems that the taskbar does not fully respect when an app is full-screen, like a Remote Desktop Connection.  When in the session, the local taskbar pops up when the mouse cursor is near/at the bottom.  It should never appear in this situation.

 

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Is that also happening without Start11?

Minimized app is not returning full screen app active.

Steps to reproduce.

1. Have two full screen apps open. Example: Open Excel and make sure it is full screen. Then open Notepad and make sure it is full screen.
2. Click on the Notepad icon in the taskbar to minimize it.
3. Try to type in Excel without clicking into it.
4. Notice it doesn't work.

The expected behavior and how the taskbar has always worked is that when you minimize an app from the taskbar, the app behind it becomes active.

I am running the enhanced taskbar without grouping and without labels.

Quoting Neil, reply 28

Quoting BerserkerZ,

reply 27

Auto hide taskbar enabled

Taskbar aligned to the LEFT.

Result: Taskbar stuck in the middle and not showing clock/date.

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Windows 11 22000.556

 

Also, I can't drag and drop files to hidden taskbar because when I point the mouse cursor while dragging a file, the taskbar doesn't appear to me.

How many monitors do you have and what configuration?

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One monitor.

TV LG C1

3840x 2160 Scale 300% (recommended).

Quoting Neil, reply 30

Quoting dsandbrand,

reply 29

It seems that the taskbar does not fully respect when an app is full-screen, like a Remote Desktop Connection.  When in the session, the local taskbar pops up when the mouse cursor is near/at the bottom.  It should never appear in this situation.

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Is that also happening without Start11?

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No, it was not happening pre-beta.

Quoting dsandbrand, reply 35

Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 30

Quoting dsandbrand,

reply 29

It seems that the taskbar does not fully respect when an app is full-screen, like a Remote Desktop Connection.  When in the session, the local taskbar pops up when the mouse cursor is near/at the bottom.  It should never appear in this situation.

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Is that also happening without Start11?

No, it was not happening pre-beta.

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If you disable the enhanced taskbar option in Start11 does the problem go away?

Also what version of Windows 11?

Start11 Translations

Wanted to make you all aware that with the release of 1.2 (and 1.21 beta), we are considering it 'ready' for translation work.  With that, we are looking for user submissions.  The following thread details how this works:

https://forums.stardock.com/507795/start11-community-translations

The thread details:

• Where language files are stored
• How to work with them for translations
• How to submit them for review

The following is the status of the core languages we support:

Completed

• en = English (should be used as a base template)
• en-us = English US 
• es = Spanish-Spain
  Credit: fjmatad 
• fr = French (complete)
  Credit: DominiqueFaure

Still needed

• ru = Russian
• pr-br = Portuguese- Brazil 
• kr = Korean 
• de = German
• zh-cn = Simplified Chinesse
• zh-tw = Traditional Chinese

As stated in the translation thread, other languages will be vetted \ accepted \ included, they will just not be considered 'supported'.

If any client wished to take on the task of any of the core languages that are incomplete, please review that thread and post there accordingly.  As I have done for all included submissions, we will compensate (with product current or future) the client if the submission is used.

Thanks again.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Start 11 1.2.1 still crashes my explorer.exe shortly after user-login, if taskbar enhancement ist turned ON. Black screen, ctrl-alt-del shows some options, i choose TASKMANAGER and have to restart explorer.exe.  I must do this once after login. My System: msi B550 Gaming edge wifi, AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, Radeon R580, Windows 11 pro, 21H2.

In addition i have a laptop, ASUS zenbook UM431 with AMD Ryzen 5 with nearly the same configuration as the B550. This one has no Problems with Start 11 1.2.1 so far.

Are you able to view the information in Windows event log to see what the error message was for explorer crashing?

Maybe this is what you want:

Time: 13:58

Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: Explorer.EXE, Version: 10.0.22000.593, Zeitstempel: 0x59a4b94a
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: Windows.UI.Xaml.dll, Version: 10.0.22000.593, Zeitstempel: 0x79c78cff
Ausnahmecode: 0xc000027b
Fehleroffset: 0x00000000005a7995
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x25c8
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01d84f2db3334f6f
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\Windows\System32\Windows.UI.Xaml.dll
Berichtskennung: eee78375-2ba6-423c-911a-974f06292547
Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets:
Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist:

Time: 09:26

Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: Explorer.EXE, Version: 10.0.22000.593, Zeitstempel: 0x59a4b94a
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: Windows.UI.Xaml.dll, Version: 10.0.22000.593, Zeitstempel: 0x79c78cff
Ausnahmecode: 0xc000027b
Fehleroffset: 0x00000000005a7995
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x2670
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x01d84f07bd85736f
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\Windows\System32\Windows.UI.Xaml.dll
Berichtskennung: 700136ad-6c85-4bb1-9deb-e899c1a361c8
Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets:
Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist:

This two Entrys i found for today with Explorer.exe.

While the menu is in Windows11 mode it's not possible to click the "all apps" button. Instead it wants to rename the pinned icons page. :-/

Are you using a mouse or touch?

Also it may sound silly but make sure to click on the button, not to the left of it.

I'm using a mouse on a desktop. The button also disappears while hovering...

Was this new in v1.21?

Quoting mackid1993, reply 10

Still seeing a scaling issue when connecting my Surface Pro 7 to my Surface Dock (which is connected to 2 1080p monitors). My taskbar is on top and set to small. On the primary display the taskbar is twice the size when docked and the scaling changes, and the secondary monitor the taskbar is sized correctly but the buttons are pushed up slightly.

Primary monitor:

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I just wanted to follow up on this scaling issue. Any chance on getting it fixed for the 1.22 release?

Start 11 (both 1.2 and 1.2.1 Beta) Windows 11 version 21H2 OS Build 22000.613.

With taskbar at the top and set to auto-hide, the taskbar offsets below the top edge of the screen. Changing the size from small or medium or large and restarting explorer will fix it temporarily, but it comes back. When it does this, it won't stop happening and it interferes with windows that are full screen in the space where the task bar is shown but not in the small area at the top between the edge of the screen and the task bar. Clicking on the bar when it is like this moves it up, but it drops back down and doesn't autohide. Doesn't matter if the start button is to the left or in the center.

Quoting mackid1993, reply 44

Quoting mackid1993,

reply 10

Still seeing a scaling issue when connecting my Surface Pro 7 to my Surface Dock (which is connected to 2 1080p monitors). My taskbar is on top and set to small. On the primary display the taskbar is twice the size when docked and the scaling changes, and the secondary monitor the taskbar is sized correctly but the buttons are pushed up slightly.

Primary monitor:

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Secondary monitor:

 

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I just wanted to follow up on this scaling issue. Any chance on getting it fixed for the 1.22 release?

End of mackid1993's quote

If you set Start11 to vertically centre the taskbar buttons does it resolve the issue on the secondary monitor?

Quoting Neil, reply 46

Quoting mackid1993,

reply 44

Quoting mackid1993,

reply 10

Still seeing a scaling issue when connecting my Surface Pro 7 to my Surface Dock (which is connected to 2 1080p monitors). My taskbar is on top and set to small. On the primary display the taskbar is twice the size when docked and the scaling changes, and the secondary monitor the taskbar is sized correctly but the buttons are pushed up slightly.

Primary monitor:

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Secondary monitor:

 

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I just wanted to follow up on this scaling issue. Any chance on getting it fixed for the 1.22 release?

If you set Start11 to vertically centre the taskbar buttons does it resolve the issue on the secondary monitor?

End of Neil's quote

So this is interesting, I've had that option to vertically center the taskbar enabled all along. No matter what I do the buttons on the secondary display are offset upwards. This persists with an explorer.exe restart. However the double wide taskbar on the primary monitor I am able to correct by unlocking the taskbar and dragging it to be smaller. I've found that if I disable the option to Allow the taskbar to be resized, when the scaling drops the taskbar on the primary screen doesn't get larger. The secondary screen no matter what is always offset upwards. I think your scaling bug is triggered by an issue with the ability to resize the taskbar. I'd suggest that your developers look into that feature and how it behaves with scaling changes to narrow down this issue. I also want to add that I further tested by rebooting my Surface Pro 7 while connected to my dock the entire time, this while the entire time the system is active the scaling would never have changed. In this scenario the taskbar on the secondary screen is still offset, that tells me that this isn't a scaling issue. I tested further and this scenario only occurs when the taskbar is on top of the screen. It happens regardless of medium or small size and regardless of whether the primary taskbar is on the top or bottom. When the taskbar is on the bottom of the screen the buttons are normal on both primary and secondary displays.

I did some more investigation with this, it happens when a fullscreen-exclusive game is running on the primary display. But it never fixes itself, even after closing the game.

Can you include the beta download here like you used to before v1.2?

I use the beta 1.21 and have a problem with my mouse, it's the same here https://forums.stardock.com/511620/page/1/#3847282

Windows sometimes maximize when I click on the bar or things open twice, could this be related to your program?

Quoting mackid1993, reply 47

Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 46

Quoting mackid1993,

reply 44

Quoting mackid1993,

reply 10

Still seeing a scaling issue when connecting my Surface Pro 7 to my Surface Dock (which is connected to 2 1080p monitors). My taskbar is on top and set to small. On the primary display the taskbar is twice the size when docked and the scaling changes, and the secondary monitor the taskbar is sized correctly but the buttons are pushed up slightly.

Primary monitor:

Reduced 43%

Reduced 95%

Original 838 x 29

Original 1920 x 68

 

Secondary monitor:

 

Reduced 43%

Reduced 95%

Original 838 x 17

Original 1920 x 40

 

I just wanted to follow up on this scaling issue. Any chance on getting it fixed for the 1.22 release?

If you set Start11 to vertically centre the taskbar buttons does it resolve the issue on the secondary monitor?

 

 

So this is interesting, I've had that option to vertically center the taskbar enabled all along. No matter what I do the buttons on the secondary display are offset upwards. This persists with an explorer.exe restart. However the double wide taskbar on the primary monitor I am able to correct by unlocking the taskbar and dragging it to be smaller. I've found that if I disable the option to Allow the taskbar to be resized, when the scaling drops the taskbar on the primary screen doesn't get larger. The secondary screen no matter what is always offset upwards. I think your scaling bug is triggered by an issue with the ability to resize the taskbar. I'd suggest that your developers look into that feature and how it behaves with scaling changes to narrow down this issue. I also want to add that I further tested by rebooting my Surface Pro 7 while connected to my dock the entire time, this while the entire time the system is active the scaling would never have changed. In this scenario the taskbar on the secondary screen is still offset, that tells me that this isn't a scaling issue. I tested further and this scenario only occurs when the taskbar is on top of the screen. It happens regardless of medium or small size and regardless of whether the primary taskbar is on the top or bottom. When the taskbar is on the bottom of the screen the buttons are normal on both primary and secondary displays.

 

End of mackid1993's quote

Just to add, further testing reveals that the Allow the taskbar to be resized option doesn't prevent the scaling issue. However I can unlock the taskbar and drag it smaller when the issue does occur.