why tiles did not support chinese language?

I am a ob subsciber from china mainland, I found tiles on this web http://bbs.ithome.com/thread-416879-1-1.html 

So many chinese people have interests on stardock software now, and China has the largest middle class in human world.

If stardock software support alipay in China on taobao.com, your will have huge custumers.

 

When I use tiles, I found this software did not support chinese characters in apps or my tiles, will tiles support chinese language in the future?

 

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Oh,I may can answer that. The market wasn't big enough for "paying" customers as we all know they like free applications more. :rofl:  

Reply #2 Top

alipay is crucial for your success in chinese market

Reply #3 Top

Quoting Gaspershooters, reply 1

Oh,I may can answer that. The market wasn't big enough for "paying" customers as we all know they like free applications more. :rofl:  
End of Gaspershooters's quote

Well, that's ten years ago, now is 2017, buddy.

ten years ago, I earn about 200 dollars per month

now , I earn 3000-3500 dollars per month. 

only when you have enough money for living, you will spend money for software.

The exchange rate of dollar vs chinese yuan is the mainly reason why people donot buy software.

25 dollars is just 25 dollars for Americans, but is 25*7=175 yuan for Chinese.

Will you pay 175 dollars for objective desktop?

App store have achieved its great success in Chinese market!

So do you still think Chinese people like free applications more?!!!

 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-china/apples-tim-cook-says-developers-have-earned-17-billion-from-china-app-store-idUSKBN1DX04J?il=0

Apple's Tim Cook says developers have earned $17 billion from China App Store

WUZHEN, China (Reuters) - Apple Inc’s chief executive Tim Cook said developers using its platform in China number 1.8 million and have earned a total 112 billion yuan ($16.93 billion), representing roughly a quarter of total global App Store earnings.

 
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 It doesn't matter how much money you earned,it's about market. Apps' market is different than software,again,it doesn't mean anything however Tim Cook said about. 

"Alipay" ?? ,so basically you expected Stardock (an American software ) implement the foreign payment system?? Again,we are talking about the market. Maybe,just maybe you yourself do the job (sale) proving that it indeed has potential in there. Btw,you have questioned that already.

Quoting wy59168, reply 3
25 dollars is just 25 dollars for Americans, but is 25*7=175 yuan for Chinese.

Will you pay 175 dollars for objective desktop?
End of wy59168's quote
Reply #5 Top
Quoting Gaspershooters, reply 4

 It doesn't matter how much money you earned,it's about market. Apps' market is different than software,again,it doesn't mean anything however Tim Cook said about. 

"Alipay" ?? ,so basically you expected Stardock (an American software ) implement the foreign payment system?? Again,we are talking about the market. Maybe,just maybe you yourself do the job (sale) proving that it indeed has potential in there. Btw,you have questioned that already.


Quoting wy59168,




25 dollars is just 25 dollars for Americans, but is 25*7=175 yuan for Chinese.

Will you pay 175 dollars for objective desktop?


End of Gaspershooters's quote
 

what's the differences between chinese market and american market? you did not tell!

Do you know why apple achieve great success in china?

Because apple has  own payment systerm!!!

Sometimes it is not about money, it is about conveniences.

Not everybody have enough time and patience to register paypal and change chinese yuan to dollar for buying software.

Will you buy something from china to register alipay? and change dollar to chinese yuan in bank?

Stardock company develop its own payment systerm is uneconomic.

So use alipay will be a relative good choice!!! It just like supermarket itself do not develop payment systerm but use credit card (which is developed by bank)!!!

Reply #6 Top

It's no point kept arguing/discussing when both sides cannot see eyes to eyes. Someone may be inform/educate you later. Until then,good luck. :rolleyes:  

Reply #7 Top

Quoting Gaspershooters, reply 6

Someone may be inform/educate you later
End of Gaspershooters's quote

Time may be inform/educate you later. ten years later, you will know who is right.:andrew:  

Reply #8 Top

Quoting wy59168, reply 3
Well, that's ten years ago, now is 2017, buddy.

ten years ago, I earn about 200 dollars per month. now , I earn 3000-3500 dollars per month. only when you have enough money for living, you will spend money for software.

The exchange rate of dollar vs chinese yuan is the mainly reason why people do not buy software.
End of wy59168's quote

While it's true that China has come a very long way in just a few years (and has a HUGE housing bubble just dying to burst because of it) and therefore actually has the wealth to buy products from abroad, what you are NOT telling us is the other MAJOR reason why piracy is rampant in China: it's a cultural thing.

Chinese will not think twice about spending a FORTUNE buying anything that brings them status in the eyes of others (for instance, Gucci bags, Nike sport shoes, that kind of stuff), and when they really can't afford the original they will go for the replicas. And, you see, that is part of the problem: due to Mao's cultural revolution they have been taught that to be great you must copy others that came before you - not BE great yourself, but copy others. This is ingrained in their current culture now - they truly think that copying and plagiarizing is ok. They do not value IP (Intellectual Property).

Creativity and thinking out-of-the-box are thus at an all time low in China.

Look, they even copy CARS. Want to have the equivalent (in name only) of the Land Rover in China? You buy the LandWind, which looks exactly - but behaves nothing like, especially not it terms of quality, of course - the original.

There is another component to the current Chinese mentality (but more with the older generation) that makes it unlikely they will actually start buying software anytime soon (as a whole, there are exceptions since I do have a handful of Chinese customers): they think that taking advantage of others is actually the SMART thing to do. If they can scam you and make a profit, they will think nothing of it. The others will think of them as smart. So why would they actually buy software if they can get if for free?

In much the same way, the Chinese entrepreneur does not usually think long term either, and you should remember that if you are doing business with China: he will prefer to cut corners and deliver a really low quality product that will render him money NOW but ensure you will never do business with that guy again (i.e.; scam you), than actually deliver something of good quality which would ensure a LOT MORE MONEY to him in the long term. Illogical to us but that is how it is.

While it's true that while China has taken a taste for capitalism, it is also true that the Chinese leadership still holds an iron fist and tight reins over what happens in the country. Although most people in China use VPNs to get around it, the fact is that most of the Internet is off-limits. They kind of have their own Internet and equivalents to Facebook, social media, Skype, etc... For most people there are also huge restrictions on money flowing abroad, etc...

Anyway, things are changing. Let's hope our Chinese brothers will eventually understand that the only way to have an industry of their own cracking up original and innovative stuff is to protect that same industry from bootlegging. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

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Quoting Gaspershooters, reply 4

"Alipay" ?? ,so basically you expected Stardock (an American software ) implement the foreign payment system?? 
End of Gaspershooters's quote

It is something we are considering actually.  China is indeed a big market and we have seen (rather crazy) growth there from our new software presence on Steam (Fences, Start10, Multiplicity).  Problem being, if games get lost on Steam these days, think how hard it is to discover our software.  With a payment gateway they are familiar with, and is popular, we could see a reason to market there more on our own with some success.

As wy59168 points out in a later post, convenience is indeed a big factor - another reason Steam has a successful medium for sales in China - it's easy to purchase.

Either way, we are looking at alternate payment gateways and appreciate the conversation and feedback.

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Right,I just learn that Steam has been in China awhile,that does make sense that sales are astronomical if numbers talked. Yet,I do agree with JcRabbit,the market in there is precarious which I read that there is the rumor Steam is being replaced by a native competitor.

Reply #11 Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 9


Quoting Gaspershooters,

"Alipay" ?? ,so basically you expected Stardock (an American software ) implement the foreign payment system?? 



It is something we are considering actually.  China is indeed a big market and we have seen (rather crazy) growth there from our new software presence on Steam (Fences, Start10, Multiplicity).  Problem being, if games get lost on Steam these days, think how hard it is to discover our software.  With a payment gateway they are familiar with, and is popular, we could see a reason to market there more on our own with some success.

As wy59168 points out in a later post, convenience is indeed a big factor - another reason Steam has a successful medium for sales in China - it's easy to purchase.

Either way, we are looking at alternate payment gateways and appreciate the conversation and feedback.

End of sdRohan's quote

All you need to do is register a taobao officially authorized account and sales your software on taobao just like you sale things on ebay. I can do this for you in China. When I first know fences and think it is the right software I am looking for, I went to taobao.com to search fences for buying. But I did not find Officially authorized stores.So I gave up buying it at taobao.com and went to stardock.com for buying. And the stardock did not provide chinese language saling webpage and alipay. Are you kidding me?  I think about 99% people who will buy this software stopped at this point. There is only one way to use this good software : searching crack version !!! But what they are facing is virus and old verson. What a pity.

”Problem being, if games get lost on Steam these days, think how hard it is to discover our software.“

Advertisement is a good solution to solve your problem.  But do not use  web advertisment. Few people see it and most of them was blocked by "Adblock Plus".

People who real wants fences must have Adblock Plus on his chrome browser. People who do not wants fences must have Adblock Plus on his chrome browser.Do you understand what is my mean?!!! It is crucial.

 Since that we-media made consumers have the right of saying, the influence of personal communication is being enhanced.

You should operate with we-media to advertise your software in china!!! People who real wants fences are certain to read we-media, it is the major way to discover good software in china. Do you get my point?

Steam is a very bad platform to buy games compared to Tencent platform. Do you konw why? Because Steam do not know what chinese consumer really wants and did not know how to sold games in china. League Of Legends is free to play but League of Legends generated $1.7 billion revenue in 2016. Can you understand this phenomenon? I am afriaid not.

 If you want to further disscuss the topic please contact me at 767669418@qq.com

Reply #12 Top

Quoting Gaspershooters, reply 10

Right,I just learn that Steam has been in China awhile,that does make sense that sales are astronomical if numbers talked. Yet,I do agree with JcRabbit,the market in there is precarious which I read that there is the rumor Steam is being replaced by a native competitor.
End of Gaspershooters's quote

Replace? Good things will always replace bad things. If you are replaced, you must ask yourself why you are replaced. Microsoft, Apple, IBM are not replaced by chinese company. why? Blackberry, moto, NOKIA were replaced , why? If two platforms sale the same games , why steam was replaced?The game  makers will not provide different prices quoted for the same game.

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Quoting JcRabbit, reply 8

 

Quoting wy59168,
Well, that's ten years ago, now is 2017, buddy.

ten years ago, I earn about 200 dollars per month. now , I earn 3000-3500 dollars per month. only when you have enough money for living, you will spend money for software.

The exchange rate of dollar vs chinese yuan is the mainly reason why people do not buy software.



While it's true that China has come a very long way in just a few years (and has a HUGE housing bubble just dying to burst because of it) and therefore actually has the wealth to buy products from abroad, what you are NOT telling us is the other MAJOR reason why piracy is rampant in China: it's a cultural thing.

Chinese will not think twice about spending a FORTUNE buying anything that brings them status in the eyes of others (for instance, Gucci bags, Nike sport shoes, that kind of stuff), and when they really can't afford the original they will go for the replicas. And, you see, that is part of the problem: due to Mao's cultural revolution they have been taught that to be great you must copy others that came before you - not BE great yourself, but copy others. This is ingrained in their current culture now - they truly think that copying and plagiarizing is ok. They do not value IP (Intellectual Property).

Creativity and thinking out-of-the-box are thus at an all time low in China.

Look, they even copy CARS. Want to have the equivalent (in name only) of the Land Rover in China? You buy the LandWind, which looks exactly - but behaves nothing like, especially not it terms of quality, of course - the original.

There is another component to the current Chinese mentality (but more with the older generation) that makes it unlikely they will actually start buying software anytime soon (as a whole, there are exceptions since I do have a handful of Chinese customers): they think that taking advantage of others is actually the SMART thing to do. If they can scam you and make a profit, they will think nothing of it. The others will think of them as smart. So why would they actually buy software if they can get if for free?

In much the same way, the Chinese entrepreneur does not usually think long term either, and you should remember that if you are doing business with China: he will prefer to cut corners and deliver a really low quality product that will render him money NOW but ensure you will never do business with that guy again (i.e.; scam you), than actually deliver something of good quality which would ensure a LOT MORE MONEY to him in the long term. Illogical to us but that is how it is.

While it's true that while China has taken a taste for capitalism, it is also true that the Chinese leadership still holds an iron fist and tight reins over what happens in the country. Although most people in China use VPNs to get around it, the fact is that most of the Internet is off-limits. They kind of have their own Internet and equivalents to Facebook, social media, Skype, etc... For most people there are also huge restrictions on money flowing abroad, etc...

Anyway, things are changing. Let's hope our Chinese brothers will eventually understand that the only way to have an industry of their own cracking up original and innovative stuff is to protect that same industry from bootlegging. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

End of JcRabbit's quote

 

The Chace Act (U. S. A.)

Throughout the nineteenth century, the easiest way for a British author to secure American copyright protection was to have an American citizen serve as a collaborator in the publishing process (the American usually wrote a short preface), then have the book registered in Washington, D. C., under the collaborator's name. Rudyard Kipling, offered such an arrangement by his American publisher, refused, but authors as eminent as Thomas Henry Huxley acceded. In the United States, up to the passing of the Chace Act (1891), this would be the publication timetable for a British writer attempting to secure American copyright protection for a new work:

http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/dickens/pva/pva74.html

After you read this webpages, you will find out that USA is the earlist  all over the world!!!!!! But after USA displaced  UK in in politics, economy, trade, culture, science and technology, USA changed his face and protect his Intellectual Property.

How ridiculous!

What irony!