Search act up in Creator Update (Windows 10)

Search for settings option seem broken in the new update.

Ex: When I try to search for "Mouse", several files come from my Download folder show up under "Control Panel".

 

Ex 2: Search for "uac" does not return User Account Control as expected.

Ex 3: Search for "remove" return a bunch of files from all over the system under "Control Panel", yet not one of them are actually come from Control Panel:

 

Ex 4: A music file under "Control Panel"? Really now?

This basically render the search function useless for me. Please help.

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Was your creators edition an upgrade or clean install?

It looks like the OS indexing database might have become corrupted.  I am not seeing this here on a machine thats running Creators edition and Start10 but I will get it double checked next week by QA.

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Quoting Neil, reply 1

Was your creators edition an upgrade or clean install?

It looks like the OS indexing database might have become corrupted.  I am not seeing this here on a machine thats running Creators edition and Start10 but I will get it double checked next week by QA.
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It's a 100% clean install from an iso file. I will try to rebuild index database and see if it solve the problem.

Edit: Nope, doesn't work, problem still remain the same.

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Quoting spacons, reply 3

Same here, with Windows 10 Anniversary Update.

 
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That is strange as whilst we have reproduced the problem, it would appear to be specific to clean installs of the Creators edition.  Are you sure you are on Anniversary update not Creators Edition update?

The next Start10 update will address this problem with control panel search.  I hope we can put this out in beta next week but being Easter week I cannot promise.

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It is in internal testing currently.

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Hello!
I have the exactly same problem with the Creators Update (no problem under the previous Anniversary update).
I'm on a fresh install too since yesterday (iso created with the "Microsoft Media Creation Tool") so there is no corruption due to the update

It's look like the research can't find/including the "new" windows10 parameters and some others programs manually installed.

 

Thanks for your help 

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We have a fix for this internally but I am unsure why it has not been released.  I will chase to find out.

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Ok, nice! Thank your for your reactivity.

If this fix can be applied without a Start10 update (somes registry keys to change/add or a Windows setting to change, maybe you can explain them)

Thank you again

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Quoting Neil, reply 8

We have a fix for this internally but I am unsure why it has not been released.  I will chase to find out.
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Hi, any news about the fix ?

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Quoting chrisdelhez, reply 11


Quoting Neil Banfield,

We have a fix for this internally but I am unsure why it has not been released.  I will chase to find out.



 

Hi, any news about the fix ?

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This was addressed in the 1.55 update which was released earlier this month.

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It has not been resolved.

I am on version 1.55 of Start10 along with the Creator update to Windows 10 and I am still getting a crash when trying to access the control panel.

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Quoting JonCamBates, reply 13

It has not been resolved.

I am on version 1.55 of Start10 along with the Creator update to Windows 10 and I am still getting a crash when trying to access the control panel.
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The update resolves the issue reported in this thread which is that you get incorrect entries under Control panel searches in Start10.  If this is the problem you are still encountering then please try the following steps:

Uninstall Start10, REBOOT, Install Start10.

There are no other reports of crashes accessing control panel in this thread and if you mean it crashes when you click a link to access the old control panel I suspect thats a bug in Windows 10 Creators edition itself rather than Start10.  A way to tell is to press WinKey + R and in the run dialog type control and press ok.  Does that crash?

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I believe I'm still having the originally-reported issue... I'm running Start10 1.55, and have tried uninstalling, rebooting and re-installing...  when Windows 10 pushed out the latest big update, it seemed to alter (kill) the ability of Start10's search to find control panel and programs... it searches a lot of files, but is definitely not finding fundamental things that it used to.

 

My most frequent use of it is to type "windows upd" to pull up Windows Update...  when I do that now, all that comes up is "Find and Fix Windows Update Problems" under a Control Panel heading, nothing else.  When I do that under the normal Windows Start menu, it immediately pulls up Windows Update Settings as the top result.

 

I'm not sure when this first started happening, as I've been going through some other computer issues, also related to this recent windows update - but I think I'm seeing what is reported here.  I'll keep searching the forums and googling, but figured I'd ask if there's something I should check within Start10.  I did turn off "Search should include files outside the standard libraries" and then turn it back on again, that didn't seem to have any effect.

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Hello!  Frustratingly, I am having the exact same problem.  Tonight, "Windows 10 Creator Update" installed itself.  When it was done (hours later), Start10 would not pull up any program search results via typing the text of the desired program in the Start menu.

At first I thought it was Windows, but then when I clicked the top item corresponding to "Show Normal Windows Start Menu", and then tried it, Windows performed the search just fine.

Having run into Start10 problems once before I knew to completely uninstall Start10, reboot, then install Start10 and reboot.  Very sadly, the problem persists.  I have also confirmed that I am running Start10 version 1.55.

I will hope and pray that Stardock is aware that the problem still exists and is working on a fix.

Thanks!

Dan

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I would suggest that the first step is rebuilding the index.  A web search will provide instructions.

Please report back your results.

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Update: This morning - it is working.  Last night I did change some Windows settings - I forget which, something to do with whether to use the 'Windows Search' or something like that - and I have no idea if that had an effect, or not.  But suddenly this morning Start10 is back to working.

Perhaps Windows needed time to (automatically) rebuild the index?

In any case - Can I suggest that you give users a clear message about this when you install Start10 or when a major Windows update happens - that says it may take a day or two for programs to reappear when you search for them (if I'm right that this is the cause)?

In any case, after the (disheartening & uncertain) delay it's back to working.  This really made me realize how much I depend on Start10.  I just can't stand the Windows 10 default Start menu, even with the tiles deleted.  For a GUI component that hits you in the face all the time if you run applications by typing their name, the default Windows 10 Start menu is a serious distraction.  So, thanks for Start10.

Thanks,

Dan