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The Perfect Computer

If you could have the perfect computer what would it be like?

One that has the parts available ie not one like the starship enterprise's.
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Reply #27 Top
Just wondered about the post from brazil saying "Stay Away From Alienware" I have been drooling over the new case design they are coming out with.

"Project Predator"
http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-02-27.html
Reply #28 Top
I originally ordered my new Media Center system from Alienware.There are no words to describe how awful and painful it was dealing with them for just a few days.I then started looking into News Groups for more info of other OEM's selling Media Edition.There is where I found more dissatisfied,disgruntled AW owners,all of which were shipping their machines back and paying a restocking fee of 500$.The descriptions of Tech Support most left on the NG were horrific.Their box is far to small for the heat although I must admit that's what drew my attention to their machine.After following the NG for 2 days every one of the AW machines were being returned defective.I canceled my order,3400$,promptly.They had already billed me and my order was in stage 2 of a 7 stage process.My CC company was extremely upset with AW and I was billed nothing.They are a horrible company IMHO.

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Reply #29 Top
Ugh...Sounds like I should start looking somewhere else.
Reply #30 Top
>> But for me: Dual P4 3.06 HT

Sorry splash but I think you may be confused here... AFAIK there is no such thing as a dual P4, dual Xeon yes, dual P4 no. If you are refering to HyperThreading as 2 CPU's then im sorry but, regardless of what the device manager in windows tells you, HyperThreading is not the same as having a dual CPU machine. You have two sets of internal CPU registers thats all.

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Reply #31 Top
Dream machine, huh? Huh... people must be easily satisfied, since the things they want in their perfect computers already exist.

Oh wait - my perfect computer already does too.... the NeXT and SGI Octane. They may not be the sheer brute force powerhouses that todays PCs are (though Octanes are certainly not shabby! ^.^) but they're absolute dreams to work on.

I'd still find it more enjoyable and easy to work on an old 040 NeXT than on a PC.
Reply #32 Top
SMP....

mm, the only Alienware box I've seen in person was a Full tower with 8 drive bays and loads of room.. though not sure about them other than reviews...

That and the boxes look nice, of course you could always air brush your own or take it to someone to do it for you...

Falcon bakes an wild number of paint coats and clear coats for the finish on their boxes...


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Reply #33 Top
WytRaven: it can't be done? Oh well.... I was just thinking, if it could, you would have the equivilent of 4 logical processors....

I will have to settle for 1 P4 chip then....
Reply #34 Top
Splash: HyperThreading does not mean one CPU that's really two. I know it's confusing especially when the windows device manager will show a single HT CPU as two CPU's but when it comes down to it, that is a long way from the truth.
Here's a 'laymans' terms quick summary of what HT is:
A HyperThreading Processor is a processor that contains two sets of internal registers. What are internal registers you ask? Well, a register is the tech term for a single memory cell. In the case of CPU's they have a number of internal registers (inside the processing part of the CPU itself)that are used to store information about what the CPU is doing right at any particular moment. They hold things like the current position within the active program that the CPU is up to, data to be manipulated and addresses of memory where results of calculations are to be stored etc. On a multitasking operating system like windows where lots of programs "appear" to be running at once these registers are constantly being dumped to cache and switched in with new data. All these programs are not actually running at the same time. Each "running" program is given tiny slices of time to use the CPU. When a particular program's turn comes around the CPU will dump the current state of the registers to cache and load from cache the last state of the registers as they were when the last time slice this program had was up. The program does its little bit of work and then the CPU dumps the registers again and loads up state data for the next program in its list. This happens so fast that to you, the user, it appears that all these things are happening at the same time.
Disclaimer: for all you techies out there that are saying "but there's a lot more to it than that" yes you are right but we are trying to keep it simple here, bringing program jumps and the stack into this is unnecessary.
Ok, so what does this have to do with HyperThreading? Well, as I said before HT CPU's have two sets of internal registers which means that it can keep in real internal registers the status of two different programs at once. What this means is that there is less time spent dumping data to the cache and so the time taken to switch between different programs is reduced. Thats it, ok so its a bit more complicated than that, but that should give you the general idea of what goes on.
In summary HyperThreading does not give you additional processing power as is the case with a Dual CPU system (which *can* actually do two things at the same time), it merely aims to make use of the available power more efficiently. It's aim is to improve multitasking performance and squeeze just a little bit more power out a single CPU by reducing some execution overhead. Nothing more nothing less. Simple aye?

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Reply #35 Top
does AMD chips do hyperthreading? I was just at their site. I noticed the new AMD Athlon XP 3000+ is finally out. At 2.17 Ghz it still out benchmarks a P4 3.06 Ghz machine.
Reply #36 Top
well ok, not the best comp on earth, however its good enough for me.
PIII, 800 mhz,Nvidia Gforce 3, and thats all I can remember
But as I said, its enough for me, I only use it for skinning and stuff...
Reply #37 Top
kona0197...no. AMD is not going to bother as far as i know and i dont blame them (read above post for why) AMD is looking into dual core CPU's instead, thats right, one chip = two CPUs...don't expect to see them for a while though

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Reply #38 Top
I think the Athlon 3000+ has a dual core. They call the core on the new chip the barton core. Would be nice to have.
Reply #39 Top
no it is not dual core...dual core is a concept they are considering working on for the future, you are not likely to see them until after the switch to 64bit

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Reply #40 Top
Many of these systems that everyone is designing for them selves sound pretty awesome for the most part. The only thing I would recommend is: the big HD lovers go with dual HD's. Hard Drives are the biggest bottle neck in any system now. Even with a 10k drive the access on a 120 gig HD would turn a 3000 mhz system into the pre gig club. 60 gig main drive for the OS ( limiting what is only absolutely neccisary on drive C )and a second 120 gig drive for all the fun progies... I saw a really nice performance boost by brick walling my OS swap on a second smaller drive.

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Reply #41 Top
Storage Magazine
www.storagemagazine.com
http://www.storagemagazine.com

You should take a look if wondering about storage subsystems and such....
This is the dope on SAN and you can apply much of it to workstations...




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Reply #42 Top
Hmmm...
Mobo - Asus 7n8x Deluxe
Video Card - ATi Radeon 9800 w/ 256MB RAM
HDD1 - 120 GB HDD with Windows XP Professional
HDD2 - 120 GB HDD with SlackWare Linux
RAM - 1024MB PC3700 DDR RAM
CD-RW - 56x48x56
DVD Drive - 32x
Floppy Drive -
Reply #43 Top
... I forgot a processor!
That would have to be an overclocked AMD AthlonXP 3000+ Thoroughbred.