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First I'd like to say I love Deskscapes but you guys have to fix it so it doesn't downclock the GPU... It does so there's no reason arguing about it. When I enable certain Dreams my GPU clocks drop from 950mhz (core) 1330mhz (memory) to 400mhz (core) 900mhz (memory) respectably. While this isn't a big issue for me, it's rather an annoyance and I lose the current work I'm working on. What I'm saying is that, I'll be encoding movies to 1080p (using CPU and GPU), I pause deskscapes and my computer will lock up because of the sudden jump in clocks. I've tested this many times so I know for a fact that it's deskscapes. Well, not deskscapes per se, but certain dreams. I could record it if you would like... Like I said, only certain dreams do  this... 

 

Thank You,

Russ

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It is not Deskscapes causing your problem I don't think, but rather the Dream itself.  I would recommend that if certain Dreams cause these issues, just don't use those Dreams as your system evidently is not capable of handling those Dreams and doing your video encoding at the same time, or don't run any Dreams at all while you are doing your video encoding. Evidently it's a trade off.

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I know it's the dreams. Certain dreams down clock the GPU which they shouldn't. Probably the coding...

 

As far as my system not being to handle the dreams?? NO, Asrock P55 extreme 4 mobo, 875k, 8gb Crucial Ballistix 12800, 2 x 2gb 6950's running crossfirex and a corsair ax1200 80 plus gold to power the sytem. No I don't think it's the sytem nor hardware. I've systematically checked hardware and landed on the software of Deskscapes. 

 

While I do pause deskscapes while I game, encode, etc, I shouldn't have to. 

 

Thanks,

Russ

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Quoting russ1488, reply 2
As far as my system not being to handle the dreams??
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Yes, clearly it cannot.  The fact you have a problem demonstrates that.

I also play music while running FSX [particularly CPU/Graphic intensive]....I know I shouldn't but I take the performance hit anyway.

Simple advice....either run Dreams encoded/using codecs that do NOT cause issue...or shutdown processes when work is more critical.

Hint...no 'bad-ass' computer is really as bad-ass as you expect/would like... eventually they choke...;)

 

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Just some thoughts:

Video drivers can make a huge difference with dreams if you want to check those.

Video encoding is an enormously taxing process no matter what machine you've got.

Some dreams are mpg's, some are wmvs, very few are "hybrid" or "dynamic" (non-video programs).  Wmv's tend to be the most taxing, followed by mpg's, then hybrids and dynamics.  You might try to single out which types might be working better for you.

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I say it has to be your Drivers or something.

cause I Have a Cheap PC Off the Self

Gateway DX4831
 Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz 2 Core(s)

NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1GB Ram

Physical Memory 6 GB RAM
Virtual Memory  11.86 GB

and it will play 2 Dream one on each Monitor

Run PS and Watch a Video and have 4 to 6 Tabs opened in FireFox.and ((2 to 4 windows Explorer opened

not to mention all the running Processes 107 +  

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Quoting russ1488, reply 2
Probably the coding...
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Yes, it's the encoding/codecs used and that's something that Stardock likely WILL NOT change since the dreams are user provided. If they limited the program to one specific codec I imagine there would hundreds to thousands more threads complaining about that. It's odd that you would experience lockups just from clock changes. My 4870s never seem to have any issues with it.

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Quoting Lantec, reply 6

Quoting russ1488, reply 2 Probably the coding...

Yes, it's the encoding/codecs used and that's something that Stardock likely WILL NOT change since the dreams are user provided. If they limited the program to one specific codec I imagine there would hundreds to thousands more threads complaining about that. It's odd that you would experience lockups just from clock changes. My 4870s never seem to have any issues with it.
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Finally a person that admits it and it's a mod. People writing in denial and blaming the system or user error (won't name). One guy mentioning monitors, what gives, I run 2 hannstar 24" 1920 X 1080 with two different dreams and no problems... the only time the problems are interjected is when I encode and pause the clocks jump from stock to O.C.. Just hard on Windows. It's not hardware, if anyone has ever used software based O.C.'ing utilities the end result is usually blue screen. 

When I disable deskscapes the lockups are gone and no matter what I do to they just simply don't happen. I'm not whining nor complaining I just thought it would be polite to point this issue out is all so all the hardcore fans don't need to get so defensive. 

...and whether it be a goliath (bad-ass as one guy said) of a system or grannies e-machine is besides the point and that's why I didn't mention it in my OP. The gist is that certain dreams down clock the GPU. It's just a pain in the arse disabling deskscapes everytime I want to do something CPU/GPU intensive, but nonetheless, can manage. Maybe, just maybe, it can be something Stardock can look into. 

 

Thanks for your time Bro,

Russ

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Again, it is not a fault of Deskscapes.  It's at best a poor choice of Dream to be running while you are doing system-intensive work.

The choice of the Dream is neither Deskscape's nor Stardock's ...;)

The fault is with which-ever skinner's choice of codec/format which clearly conflicts with your work.

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Quoting Jafo, reply 8
Again, it is not a fault of Deskscapes.  It's at best a poor choice of Dream to be running while you are doing system-intensive work.

The choice of the Dream is neither Deskscape's nor Stardock's ...

The fault is with which-ever skinner's choice of codec/format which clearly conflicts with your work.
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I know it's not Deskscapes, it's the specific dream I may be running and I understand that but the fact remains it is Deskscapes that offers those specific dreams. That's like saying a billion dollar corporation gets busted for swindling millions and they turn around and say it's not their fault but rather their employees. Just generalizing here and am in no way implying this has anything to do with Stardock. It's just an anecdote.

I just checked and dreams by "the Car Guy" seem to work great specifically his fractal dreams,, ie - emeral isle, fractal flow, etc etc... but as soon as I switch to a dream encoded with mpeg-2 the GPU clocks right down (don't know why as it's a very basic codec). Is this normal? Look, I can run any dream and I don't see the performance at idle but as soon as I do something GPU intensive I can see the hit and the lower frames because the clocks are so low. Could it be unstable codecs that I may have on my machine?

 

Thanks,

Russ

 

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Quoting russ1488, reply 9
Could it be unstable codecs that I may have on my machine?
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Quite possibly, yes.  Not every codec is the same in compatibility/performance/etc.... and I imagine it's specifically an issue when you're using the same or related codec in your work as is wanting to be used for the dream.....like trying to listen to the radio with one ear while someone is talking into the other......the message gets garbled...;)

Re the analogy....it's actually more akin to taking MS to task over wallpapers being available on the net that don't suit your screen resolution and thus are clipped or distorted...;)

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Quoting Jafo, reply 10

Quoting russ1488, reply 9Could it be unstable codecs that I may have on my machine?

Quite possibly, yes.  Not every codec is the same in compatibility/performance/etc.... and I imagine it's specifically an issue when you're using the same or related codec in your work as is wanting to be used for the dream.....like trying to listen to the radio with one ear while someone is talking into the other......the message gets garbled...

Re the analogy....it's actually more akin to taking MS to task over wallpapers being available on the net that don't suit your screen resolution and thus are clipped or distorted...
End of Jafo's quote

I apologize if I may have came across as a douche, i wasn't trying to convey myself that way. 

When I'm encoding video it's usually wmv, divx, mkv or h.264. So I don't see why there would be a conflict. I see your point though as to windows cutting and cropping to fit my monitors resolutions thus appear "fuzzy" and distorted. Hmm?

All in all, it's no big deal... from here on I'll just temporarily disable deskscapes and do what I have to do.

Thatnks for your time,

Russ

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Quoting russ1488, reply 11
I apologize if I may have came across as a douche, i wasn't trying to convey myself that way.
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No problem, mate....we're all learning from/on the great information highway we call the net....;)