Doreen Doreen

pros and cons of "censorship"

pros and cons of "censorship"

Well Brad you know me by now I usually just speak my mind no matter how stupid or off topic or outragious it may seem to others but that is just me...
As long as I have been around the so called skinning community "I" have never been censored
(even though I probably deserved it a few times)

"my opinion" of you censoring that other thread tonight was that I felt it not necessary "he" did not really say anything worth being exiled or censored he simply stated an opinion and to actually go as far as deleting all the other comments of everyone elses along w/ it to make it take a form and shape it was not going to take if it had been left alone to go it's own path, seems weird to me, I don't feel comfortable even posting this cuz if you don't appreciate what even I have to say, you may just delete my thread???

Yes I know it is your site but must the members feel uneasy to express themselves or find their comments on your msg board deleted?

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Reply #27 Top
So anyone who voices an opinion here should just leave? Interesting.. what's with the bad moods. I mean, it's not exactly news that net geeks don't much like censorship.

And Frank Leon, you can agree or disagree as is your right of course. I was just pointing out that Doreen was hardly attacking anyone, yet was made to apologize... for doing nothing more than saying her view. TomCruise was censored for the same thing. I know there are other issues involved there... but the admins can say what they like.. it's censorship. Why else would they take this so personally if it were otherwise?

I don't hate wincusto or the admins of course. Frogboy stepped up to the plate at a time when the community needed him most.. and Stardock is doing a great thing here..

That being said, I still don't like censorship.
Reply #28 Top
Aliases are just too hard for me to remember. I inevitably forget who has which email and what password. Some of us are just too simpleminded.
Reply #29 Top
Doreen: I am surprised to see you start a thread like this when you are an admin on another site.(Lots of Skins).
by JourneyMan BoXXi - 8/19/2001 11:23:31 AM

Boxxi you "don't" know me very well then do you???
I am Doreen first "in everything in my life" Admin, is somewhere else down the line...
(not into roll playing Boxxi not even when I come out to skin)

That was what "I felt" however I should have "not posted" what I felt, cuz Brad catches enough grief around here w/o me making things harder...

I realized that, and "Thank you so much" for shoving it down my throat even further!

I do have a prob. learning to "not say" what I feel...

I have seen you Boxxi fly off the handle in many occasions doing the same thing I did.
(which was expressing how I felt)

Brad is not a stranger to me all that much, I just felt "comfortable at the moment" to talk to him on HIS site, as he also comes over to LOS as well...

again Brad I'm sorry about it...
(what I did bugged me worse then what happened in the first place)

Reply #30 Top
For the record, I think Doreen did a good thing in creating this post. People should feel free to ask questions. We just ask that the people asking the questions be who they say they are.

And Paxx, sure, everyone who agrees with me is actually just an alias of me. It's part of my super human abilities of typing long posts as me and as lots of other alias's as well. It couldn't possibly have to do with some people having a similar outlook as I do...
Reply #31 Top
Well....now I'm really annoyed....
At 20 words per minute...I typed a marvelous, erudite response, oozing eloquence.....then my system crashed...quick...hit 'submit'
Reply #32 Top
Anyway....bad luck...I'll be darned if I'm gonna type it again....

The gist of it was...I go out of my way to be known as the same person everywhere....[except DA, where some nerd beat me to register]..
Your opinins will hold a bit more weight if there is a 'real' person behind them.
[hit submit...just in case]
Reply #33 Top
Your 'opinions' will, too...Spell checker
Reply #34 Top
There is only one crae (who is getting a mug from Grog!) and that crae thinks the threads on this particular board are rapidly going down the drain. It might be an idea to flatline the board for a week, so everyone can remember how normal conversations are supposed to go...
/me still digs the flames though
Reply #35 Top
wow... seems I missed an emotional occurrence here. Just got back online after two days of formatting/installing etc.

For the record... This site does not deserve the petty and arrogant attacks it gets from the losers that think they get to define the skinning community's ethics for everyone else.

And.... Tom Cruise is a coward. I'm not impressed at all.
Reply #36 Top
Hmmmm...
Does anyone still actually skin apps around here anymore, or do they just wait for the debate teams to choose up sides?

If folks pushed pixels as hard as they pushed opinions, I'd be able to get my 50 megs of registered application skin downloads on a daily basis...



/me breaks out the Prozac for some, and Dr. Who's Jelly-Babies for the rest.

Reply #37 Top
huh? what's a skin?
Reply #38 Top
I have to side with Frogboy on this one, and not just because we both have 'boy' in our nicknames. I have made myself quite unpopular with a few folks here because of my choice of OS and feverish defense of those who will bash the company who make it. Am I afraid that someone will get miffed at something I say and go and give my creations a bad rating? I really don't care, because this is just a hobby, something that I do for fun. Frogboy, on the other hand, pay's the bills with this, hence it is his living... well, Stardock is, and that's where I think the real issue lies. If Frog wasn't affiliated with Stardock, and was an independent programmer who popped this site up to promote his software AND to provide some community for skinners, I suspect that this would be a non-issue. People tend to rally behind the independent programmers and bash most "Tech" companies. I suspect that if Lots of Skins had a similar issue, that the way the users perceived their actions would be different because they are not affiliated with a company in the sense that WinCustomize is.

I've said it in the past and I'll say it again, kudos to Frogboy AND Stardock for stepping up when the community needed it the most.
Reply #39 Top
I think FrogBoy is right, he got 2 choices:

1.- Delete the thread and make us a favor
2.- Leave it like that without caring about what does it say (What is more easy)

The fact i said that made us a favor is because, for example talking about myself, i KNOW this site, have been using it since long, and really like it, so i dont want to lose my time talking with someone about why does or not this site is good.

If it was about a new game, or a new Video Card, or else, that would be ok, since i dont know them and will like to read the disscusion to maybe in the future buy one of those, but about WinCustomize, well, everybody likes it here, and the ones dont leave, so there is no real need to say if s*cks or not.

I think this site is huge, and have been worryed about it become another Deskmod with HUGE library for almost all the skinnable apps... But remember it died, i think because money problems, im ok with the current WinCustomize sections (even dont use some ones) and wont like another super HUGE site who will die, i want a stable site with all i need, and if there is something missing im smart enough to search for it on Google
Reply #40 Top
oh! and Doreen! Weird thread text... before reading i think you where talking about nudes or something like that...

I thougth "Man!, the flamefest starts... lets see... i will post about..." and already was starting to think about what to post on my imaginary thread..