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ISSUE: Installing from Archives & Subscription

ISSUE: Installing from Archives & Subscription

Suuport now states I can't install from Archive if Subscription lapesed

A customer since 2006, I last renewed Object Desktop for two more years in Feb 2009, and immediately archived all my programs for a potential reinstall later. Almost immediately thereafter I went on Chemotherapy and then my computer crashed. Months later I finally reinstalled XP Pro and key software, but was too ill to deal with Stardock’s overly complicated install, and have had bigger things to deal with since.  Of my 2 year subscription, I used this and other products a few weeks at best.

The weekend before my subscription expired on 2/8/11, I repeatedly tried to reinstall products I’d purchased, but nothing was successful other than Impulse.  Whoopee! Yes, it’s the program most everyone hates, including me, for good reason.  On 2/9/11 I wrote to Support in detail, and finally got a reply today (see below), which contradicts everything about the ability to restore from archives that (1) I was told at the time of purchase, (2) everything previously stated by Support via emails, and (3) information posted in Forums by Stardock Support and Wincustomize Moderators! Here are just some that I found:

https://www.stardock.com/support/sales_faq.aspx  

https://forums.wincustomize.com/404918

https://forums.stardock.com/352300

Supposedly, if one has archived programs they purchased, they can later be reinstalled and will function – you just won’t get updates.  Well, mine won’t even reinstall.  Moreover, if Stardock didn’t make installing their software such a PITA, I would’ve had these up and running in time to get ALL updates while my subscription was still current!

My understanding is, and was at the time of purchase, that the subscription period applied to receiving updates – not limiting the ability to later reinstall archived programs. That was NOT the deal when I bought them, and if it turns out they changed the Terms Of Use after my purchase, I will no longer buy anything from this company.  Of the nearly 200 programs I own, this the only one that’s ever given me this kind of grief.

Below is the email I got from Support today, and I note they marked the case as “closed!”  My question is, “Who’s right?  All those who posted at the above links, other Support personnel who emailed me in the past...or this Support guy who contradicts everything they contend to be the case?  TIA

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Hello,

The applications included in an ObjectDesktop subscription are only available to current subscribers. If your subscription has expired, then you will need to renew to regain access to the applications you seek to utilize. Please keep in mind that this is a subscription service, and its use is limited to current accounts only. You can renew from here:  https://www.stardock.com/products/odnt/purchase.asp

Once you have renewed, you can re-download and reinstall your applications through Impulse.  Please let me know if you have any additional questions

Matt Bertsch
Technical Advisor
Stardock Systems, Inc.
http://www.impulsedriven.com

Ticket Details
Ticket ID: YUY-400321
Department: Object Desktop
Priority: Support
Status: Closed
13,628 views 32 replies
Reply #26 Top

Daiwa: Ticket ID?

Reply #27 Top

SWN-463508

Thanks, Shirley.  The email I received from Anthony Towler indicated that replying would re-activate the ticket but it is still listed as 'Closed'.

Also not sure 'who' should be allowed to share the archive I've put in DropBox.

Reply #28 Top

If you put something in your Dropbox Public folder, right click on the file, go to 'Dropbox', then 'Copy Public Link'.  Then just send us that link.

 

Reply #29 Top

Thanks, Rosco.  Will do.  Having never used DB before, that helps.  I will, for the moment, assume that means to send it to you in a reply to a previous support email concerning this ticket.

Reply #30 Top

Sent.

Reply #31 Top

Support was kind enough to provide me with a replacement archive file for version 6.6, but it failed to restore as well, generating an immediate error message that the archive could not be restored.  We'll keep working the problem - awaiting further support advice.

Reply #32 Top

Naturally, the problem was my ignorance coupled with a false assumption.  Once I extracted the 6.6 archive correctly, Impulse restored it without a hitch.

I can see no difference in how it skins on XP from WB7, except that it respects the MaxBorderCut settings for non-perpixel frames.  This camper is officially happy.

Thanks very much to Anthony Towler, Rosco_P and Shirley @ SD support for their patience and persistence.

As an afterthought, I've always been puzzled why it would be desirable or necessary to force (or acquiesce to) the 4px border cut on maxed windows, whether perpixel or non.  I get why some might prefer to not have those 'useless pixels' limiting the size of the usable maxed window (by all of 8 pixels), but with screen real estate & resolution what it is today, it no longer seems all that relevant and I'd certainly like to see the MaxBorderCut (Screen Edge Clip) setting return as a user option in all versions of WB/SKS.