First in line to the throne of... nothing?

Why kingdoms shouldn't cease to exist when the channeler dies.

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As it currently stands, children don't serve much use, and add essentially nothing to the overall gameplay experience.  This, in my opinion, could  be rectified by making your heirs actually capable of inheriting the kingdom and the channeling powers if your leader should die. 

There are a variety ways in which this could be implemented, I believe, so that it doesn't result in overly long games because your enemy has 20 heirs, and they're spread throughout the world.

I was thinking that one could have a spell, similar to the transfer essence spell, but usable only on your children, more complicated to cast, and perhaps require some research.  Once the essence is transferred, it means that the child can now inherit his parent's channeling powers should they die, and have access to spell casting.  A kind of heir designation spell, if you will, that can only be for one person until they either succeed to the throne or die, and can only be used on your children, so when your heir does succeed he can't use his brothers or cousins or whatever as potential heirs, only his direct children (assuming they're old enough).

When your sovereign dies, there would be a time period in which your heir was then moved to the capital and incapacitated for as long as it takes for him to absorb the powers of its parent. 

Since many players have stated that they do like the fact that they can survive almost certain annihilation by killing a rival sovereign, instead of making it so that their kingdom is destroyed, why not simply have the AI offer peace immediately after their channeler dies (which you can accept or reject), while they adjust to the change in government.

Another idea I have is that instead of computer cities being destroyed when they have no channeler, give the option for some of the cities to join either you, or rival kingdoms, as a way of making the gameplay and strategy more interesting.  I presume that an empire/kingdom cannot exist in Elemental without the aid of a channeler (as they bring life to the lands... or shadow... or whatever their people need).  So if cities face almost certain destruction because they don't have a channeler to support them anymore, then you'd think they'd try and find one, and beg them for protection.  If no one accepts their offer, then the cities should be destroyed.

 

Well I don't know if any of these ideas are worth mentioning, but I thought I'd put them out there, just in case there's SOMETHING that's usable, or something that's capable of inspiring even better ideas.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

I was unaware that if my sovereign died my children or wife wouldn't succeed me. I've only died during the early phases of the game when I didn't have any kids yet. However, I fully agree that when the sovereign died his or her children should succeed him or her. Furthermore, I'd be interested in sovereigns not actually living for thousands of years. 500 turns in, and you're sovereign is already around 140 years old; how is he still alive? Wouldn't it be more interesting if you actually have to go down your family tree as time goes on, much like the Total War series (Rome and Medieval mainly, Empire and Napoleon didn't have much in the dynasty part.)

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

well i just explain away the fact he lives for 140 years is because he is a channeler - and so is his blood line ( but that doesent explain the various champions that dont have any magic affinity at all -


though i also agreed they should make a special "Channeler essence" and that this jumps in the family apon death of the current "host"

but! - i also have a different approach to it - have two different approaches to this!


Transference

The channeler first in line direct descendant will apon the soveriengs death be teleported to the capital(or other city) where he goes into a 5 turn period of absorbing the essences of the channeler - he himself inheriting all control over it.

as long as the bloodline is intact this effect will occur granting assured existance of the channeler as he himself jumps into a new "host" and guides that person ((possible stat increase (int cha -xp boost (if channeler was higher level ) to which ever was higher)


I also had a thought that empire could have a similiar thing but where the caster uses his power to forcebly take control of one of his decendants - so its "still" the same person he has just taken what he needs - as apposed to the kingdom where he guides him - there could be made different bonuses/penalties to it - that the kingdom channelers will almost always be secured with a safety - but they cant pick and chose when and how - as apposed to the empire that can - ok im about to die dang - ok im gonna prepare myself and pick this new host - ooh and he has a mighty fine body with 20 str and 20 con - thats gonna be a improvement for me.

or something along this line.

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