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Is this a rip?

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Is this a rip?

from WinCustomize Forums
I recieved a message alerting me about this...

http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.jhtml?componentId=61331

I really don't know how to proceed, since the person gave the credits in the skin's description, but never asked for my persmission and also changed my original graphics (erasing the skins real name of the titlebar).

I remember that last year, someone made a rip's list at skinz org and all the ripped skins were banished from the damn winamp.com site.
It seems that this kind of sucking things will never ands there.
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Reply #27 from WinCustomize Forums Top
My good friend Jark, thank you so much!

I just recieved a kind email from Steve Gedikian from Nullsoft, that gently offered his help on doing whatever would be needed to fix the problem.

/me once more, thanx to everybody that supported this issue and take the oportunity to licks Jark one more time.
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Reply #28 from WinCustomize Forums Top
glad to hear that things are on the path to resolution!

/me licks treetog's sputnik skin suite!
Reply #29 from WinCustomize Forums Top
http://www.winamp.com/skins/detail.jhtml?componentId=61331

the above link now displays the following, which means the skin was removed:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, sysadm@spinner.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

Apache/1.3.3 Server at www.winamp.com Port 80
Reply #30 from WinCustomize Forums Top
apparently the "he" was a she... I sent an e-mail to the ripper and the address was angela_something@somewhere.com

glad this is all resolved Renato... All the support you got through this is simply a reflection of how you have always helped people...
Reply #31 from WinCustomize Forums Top
no is not resolved, the skin is still up, I have in the front of my nose right now:(
Reply #33 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I think Renato said he would upload his there....you sure it isn't his one?
Reply #34 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Nope...you were right....it's still up....;(
Reply #35 from WinCustomize Forums Top
That's rather nasty, treetog, since I love that skin. And the thing is pink!!! ew!

sorry it happened to you, treetog..even though I'm sure it's not the first time.
Reply #38 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Sent and e-mail to sysadmin@spinner.com

I think if everyone sends an e-mail and complains, they'll listen eventually.

Then again, if their deaf, there's no sense in speaking at all... arghhh
Reply #39 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Yes....the skin is still on line and continuing to be showed as a featured skin, nothing was done so far.

During just the last 48 hours, the skin was downloaded over 10,000 times.

I'd like to thank to all of you that placed comments about the rip on the skin at winamp.com.

I just uploaded the original one over there, for them don't have the excuse, that the skin wasn't there.
Reply #40 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Renato,

Can you post a link to it here? We'll all leave comments on it...
Reply #41 from WinCustomize Forums Top
what ?! the skin is still up ??! urrg. The fact that is skinner is a she doesn't give much credit to female artists in general. I thought though they [Nulsoft] would have been good enough to remove it though. I posted my thoughts on the rip too, I noticed a few people asking for it to be removed. So I just hope some one yet see's some decency in this, and removes it permantly. Except for the damage is already done though. Due to the high downloads it has.
Reply #42 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Logged in to Nullsoft just so I could comment......

This is a stolen work belonging to one of the world's most respected Skinners. I know this, because I was privvy to his original release prior to it going public. I have known Renato for years, as a fellow skinner, and am disgusted that an admitted 'rip' is allowed to be posted.
It is disrespectful to treetog's good name and reputation in the skinning community.
If you admire his work, praise it, don't steal it under whatever dubious motive you think is justification. There is none.

Here is a copy and paste from Renato's text file in his skin....hence why I am annoyed personally.

Thanking: I would like to express my profound gratitude to 3 special good friends:

Russ Schwenkler aka Dangeruss, for all his suport and advise on many skins, specially in the HVD theme.
Paul Martin aka Jafo, for making so well the winamp region file for me, but his Spanish is still worse then my english.
Johanne Chainé aka Alexandrie, for teaching me how to make scripts for the WB skinned menus.

Not only should this be removed, and since treetog has just uploaded the original to this site, a public apology should be forth-coming.
Imagine my disgust when I received a WinAMP newsletter featuring a rip of something I helped out with.
And I wonder why I have never posted my skins here.

Just remove this, now.
This is also the wish of the Original author.

Paul Martin
aka
JAFO
Just Another F***ing Observer

One can only try....

Reply #43 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Everyone, I have come out with a new MP3 player. It is called AmpWin. Never mind the fact it looks exactly like WinAmp, except the name. Since just the name is different it's ok!
Reply #44 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Oh, goodie....can I have it, Mr. Murk....and do you have the crack for it too? I hate to pay for this stuff....
Reply #45 from WinCustomize Forums Top
In answer to your request, Fuckoff,I look forward to ripping and uploading more of your "GAY" skins,(under different alises,obviously)
Leather Box=Lather Box
Attacker=Attack Her
These will do for starters!!!
You and your cronies shouldn't have made such a fuss over something so trivial(there are kids dying of hunger for fucksake)Chill out.
Greets






>From: "Renato C. Veras Jr."
>To:
>Subject: Re: Sputnik for WInAmp
>Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 04:09:19 -0300
>
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>Just today I saw MY Sputnik skin posted at Winamp.com.
>
>Even you giving me the credits, you never asked my permission to upload >and modify my original work.
>
>Please remove it emidiatly!
>
>Renato C. Veras Jr.
>aka treetog
>www.integration-worx.com
>
>

Reply #47 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Sorry,I should have explained a bit better,this was not me who posted this,I just copied & pasted it from the Winamp site,here's the link http://www.winamp.com/skins/reviews.jhtml?rOT=C&rOI=61331&_DARGS=%2Finc%2Flayout%2Freview_add.jhtml.6,sorry for that misunderstanding Silvergem,btw I AM a girl,but not all of us are rippers like that futhamucka who ripped Treetogs skin.
Reply #49 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Careful, guys and gals....when posting about and responding to rippers, always be careful to explain who is saying what....otherwise PPL get the wrong impression or jump to the wrong conclusions.

We at WinCusto are the 'good guys'...unfortunately the same cannot be said for a number of people at Nullsoft....
Reply #50 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Winamp have removed the original comments I linked to above,they can remove offensive language but not ripped work??