[Sovereign/kids/marriage] Female sovs having matrilineal society

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It would be an interesting diversity to gameplay if a player chooses a female queen/empress as their sovereign character, for that kingdom/empire to be matrilineal, so that the female sov's daughters stay with the civ while they send their sons out and other sovereigns' sons would marry into your kingdom/empire.

 

I think it'd make the gameplay more interesting.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

Unfortunately, the problem created by this is what happens when a female sovereign and a male sovereign set up an arranged marriage.  Now who goes to the other side?  Under your rules, a female-female negotiation and a male-male negotiation has no issue, in either case the child with the same gender as their sovereign stays with the faction.  But how would you resolve the issue when a male sovereign negotiates with a female one?  The male wants his son to stay with his faction, the female wants her daughter to stay with her faction (or, vice-versa, the male expects his daughter to leave his faction, the female expects her son to leave).

I think a system based on lineage to the throne would make more sense (2nd in line daughter stays with her faction if marrying a 3rd in line son), but that still creates a tie-condition that must be resolved.  The whole system is complicated by the fact that channelers are basically invaluable; there is no amount of any resource that really compares to the value of a channeler, so basically the only viable deal is a child-for-child trade.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

Perhaps the desicion for which child goes to whom should be negotiable (you pay to get the extra unit or they pay you to get one)?

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Gwenio1, reply 2
Perhaps the desicion for which child goes to whom should be negotiable (you pay to get the extra unit or they pay you to get one)?
End of Gwenio1's quote

 

This right here, or negotiable after the "first in line for the throne" child. You'd want to keep the kids from infighting, right?

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Quoting Gwenio1, reply 2
Perhaps the desicion for which child goes to whom should be negotiable (you pay to get the extra unit or they pay you to get one)?
End of Gwenio1's quote

This kind of thing could be really good fun if the arranged-marriage UI/math included the general (sex-neutral) idea of dowries and included both diplomatic capital and 'power rating' in assessing the base value of someone offered or requested for an arranged marriage.

But then I'm one of those weirdos who wanted to see the dynasty system include several inheritance traditions and ways for them to interact to resolve questions like which spouse moved to whose house. Not that I've been reading the Song of Ice and Fire saga as slowly as I can make myself go and am finally a few hundred pages from joining the horde begging Mr. Martin to get on with it and give us more, now, please, very much thanks...