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minions shits every single game?

minions shits every single game?

how to counter/fight this?

i am a bit new player here but i have recently noticed that many of players use this build in 1vs1 games, ring of divine might or horn of the battle give your minions bloody power to crush you building or your demigod without coming out of the towers line, this is really crap when you tried to do anything and the foe just makes new minions and is rushing the citadel

 

the most crap thing i ever seen was oak minions build on crucible where oak's palyer just sents the new wave of ghost to crush citadel , he died 2-3 times in early game but after he reached 7th lvl he was preety unstopable (oak should be forbidden on crucible xD)

 

any idea how to prevent it? even if u kill this shit early game, after it reachs some lvl it is preety good even in killing demigods not only buildings

 

 

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting 4Nana, reply 25
top 3 qot is where it's at
End of 4Nana's quote

RAWRRR, Cow, Someone else.

Reply #27 Top

umm..

 

When did this thread get hijacked by you guys beating each other off about how good you are?? I'm sure there were several other threads devoted to this topic that went about 500 posts long. Sigh..I guess you didn't get it out of your systems.

 

As you are all so good can we please get back to the original point. i.e. Discussion re. how to counter minion oak. Cheers.

Reply #28 Top

that discussion was already solved and is concluded.

Now, let's get back to the circle jerk.

Reply #29 Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 22

Zen_God you never striked me as a beast pro but erebus rook were your two babies.
End of OMG_ZEX's quote

I agree with cow for the first time ever.  I don't think your illustrious 1 vs 1 record with UB puts you in the top 3 zen, you probably are the top UB there but it's a different story in team play. Your head is confused from so many games crammed into so little time lol.  I'd put you up pretty high on the all time list of top tbs, and rooks though. 

Reply #30 Top

Quoting 4Nana, reply 28
that discussion was already solved and is concluded.

Now, let's get back to the circle jerk.
End of 4Nana's quote

Yes Doggu, accept that there's nothing that you can do and join the party.  Maybe start off explaining who the hell you are with your 66% win and 800 games.  Where have you been hiding?

Reply #31 Top

we should do a 1on1 qot tournament :D

Reply #32 Top

shane play SC !

Reply #33 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 13

And what do you mean the 3 pro beast players don't play anymore?   Orcun and Mith are gone, but I still play.
End of GM-McShane87's quote

 

bollocks :D !!!!!

 

best UB ever was ananais, Orcun and Mith can only wash his panties :D

Reply #34 Top

I always loved playing with Renz when he was Oak and I was TB :D

Good times, good times.

Reply #35 Top

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 31
we should do a 1on1 qot tournament
End of GM-Zen_God's quote

Lol oh yea I forgot about your overpowered queen build.  That was the reason I originally thought you and Koush would win the tournament from the start, him UB and you Queen.

And I haven't fully dedicated myself to Starcraft yet because Renz is still playing playing DG, for some reason I have to be the last one to go lol.  He's supposed to be getting it soon though.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting Red-One-, reply 33

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 13
And what do you mean the 3 pro beast players don't play anymore?   Orcun and Mith are gone, but I still play.
 

bollocks !!!!!

 

best UB ever was ananais, Orcun and Mith can only wash his panties
End of Red-One-'s quote

That was kind of a backhanded compliment lol.

Reply #37 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 36

Quoting Red-One-, reply 33
Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 13
And what do you mean the 3 pro beast players don't play anymore?   Orcun and Mith are gone, but I still play.
 

bollocks !!!!!

 

best UB ever was ananais, Orcun and Mith can only wash his panties

That was kind of a backhanded compliment lol.
End of GM-McShane87's quote

 

o rly? it wasn't my intention xD

Reply #38 Top

1v1 QoT tourney would be funny as hell. Speaking of QoT domanince I got All Fathers Ring as QoT on Exile last night xD

Reply #40 Top

We should see if we can get everyone back for one last tourney. 

Make voice commentaries on the replays, yada yada. 

Hell, I'd volunteer to do a few.

Reply #41 Top

Darz would own the 1v1 qot tourney.. haven't seen him around for a while though.

Reply #42 Top

ok to put the oak minion build dilema to rest every one knows that oculus is the best dg in 1v1's he can beat any dg in a 1v1 if played correctly





ps: i cant believe no one said this

Reply #43 Top

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August 12, 2010 5:39:05 PM

Quoting GM-Zen_God,
reply 31
we should do a 1on1 qot tournament

Lol oh yea I forgot about your overpowered queen build. That was the reason I originally thought you and Koush would win the tournament from the start, him UB and you Queen.

And I haven't fully dedicated myself to Starcraft yet because Renz is still playing playing DG, for some reason I have to be the last one to go lol. He's supposed to be getting it soon though.
End of quote

 

rawr kind of reinvented that blood queen in the tournament. I just add a bit more minions.

Reply #44 Top

ok to put the oak minion build dilema to rest every one knows that oculus is the best dg in 1v1's he can beat any dg in a 1v1 if played correctly
End of quote

you my son still got a lot to learn lol

Reply #45 Top

oh yah? Well if you play DA correctly you can 1vTEN 

Reply #46 Top

So, your roommate brought some wine tonight again, isn't it Hedgie? :grin:   I've told you countless times to count up to 10 before posting.....

Reply #47 Top

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 44

ok to put the oak minion build dilema to rest every one knows that oculus is the best dg in 1v1's he can beat any dg in a 1v1 if played correctly


you my son still got a lot to learn lol
End of GM-Zen_God's quote


meh i know i right plus i got this info from inexorable even tho i dislike him i know he is very awsiome in 1v1's thats all he plays XD

Reply #48 Top

Quoting OMG-howboutnoooo, reply 47

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 44
ok to put the oak minion build dilema to rest every one knows that oculus is the best dg in 1v1's he can beat any dg in a 1v1 if played correctly


you my son still got a lot to learn lol


meh i know i right plus i got this info from inexorable even tho i dislike him i know he is very awsiome in 1v1's thats all he plays
End of OMG-howboutnoooo's quote

I sat in and watched zen beat inexorable like 6 times in a row one night, beast vs occ.  Only one of the game was even competitive, so no you're not right.

Reply #49 Top

Quoting OMG-howboutnoooo, reply 42
ok to put the oak minion build dilema to rest every one knows that oculus is the best dg in 1v1's he can beat any dg in a 1v1 if played correctly





ps: i cant believe no one said this
End of OMG-howboutnoooo's quote

 

oculus is a glass cannon, sure he ia able to deal enormous damage amongst seconds but if somebody catch him in melee fight he is in 99% dead, i think UB/SED are best dg to counter him, UB with large amount of hp and big damage, SED with counter healing, silence, pounce

Reply #50 Top

Yes zen raped me on cat with beast, but oc can't be beaten on crucible, the centre jumping is too epic, lets you dominate flags and with so much splash dmg, you can dominate exp as well without actually being in the creep waves, whereas the beast has to be in there to kill them, and he has to waste time walking back, or use tele scrolls to go to crystal. You don't need tele scrolls very often, this saves money. if you are using the uberfix you can negate 1 spit every 20 seconds, plus 2-3 seconds of the previous spit. Minions are good against beast. And once you get exploding ballz, thats very nice too. Also the permanent mana/helath regen freeze on the beast is good too. also, since theres only one portal on each side and all the reinforcements go through the centre, oc can hold them off very well.

As for sedna vs oc, she'd have to get cloak of night to centre jump, while oc is free to have blood or something. Heal is nice, but sedna wont have much actual damage, as her minions will be dead, and ocs wont be. She may not be able to be killed if played correctly, but her splash dmg is severly lacking, and oc should be able to push with reinforcements without much trouble.

In case its not obvious why oc isn't as good on cat, theres no centre jumping, and theres more than one lane. Making the experience and flag domination much harder. Also since theres more than one lane, he cant defend them all at the same time, until the creeps reach the middle, and by then giants are a handful for any single dg to stop. There is 2x as many creeps on cat, harder to deal with, and of course theres 4 portals instead of two, making it more difficult to defend all of them. You have to mess up pretty bad to lose your portal on crucible, whereas on cat, you can't lock both of yours.