promote the 'lesser dgs'

i propose ppl start hosting more games with 'no ub/ereb' in title..might add oak to that 

i feel that whenever opposing team has ub/ereb/oak and our team doesnt, we are at a serious disadvantage and thereby obligated to pick aforementioned dg for our team. all else being equal no way is a tb going to fill ub's shoes.

playing tb and reg is fun. but they are never going to beat a team with an ub in it, unless you are nubstomping

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Reply #1 Top

That's a good idea actually.  Maybe i can play Reg on cataract again this way. 

I've done something similar before: hosted a couple 'no ereb' games on Crucible largely to avoid the warp-behind-your-portal-cap-portal-batswarm-out trick.

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This just screams noob. You're not going to get better by avoiding your obstacles.

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Quoting Polynomial, reply 2
This just screams noob. You're not going to get better by avoiding your obstacles.
End of Polynomial's quote

 

Really some of the dgs need a buff.  You don't deny that do you?  There is a reason anyone good plays with 3 or 4 DGs when there are 8 (or now 10).

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i propose ppl start hosting more games with 'no ub/ereb' in title..might add oak to that
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Only problem is about 5 games latter you will be thinking that sedna should be added to that list (she only looses to those 3 on the list) and then a few games more the other two generals will also be considered and then DA will look pretty overpowered and then tb generally beats reg and reg beets rook (yay we are back to only 3 demigods).

Well that is a massive ammout of theory crafting and exaggeration but where do you draw the line, they are not suddenly ballanced after you remove those demigods.

Ballance in demigod is really hard and loosing is no fun, so no one good at the game really wants to change things much.

Reply #5 Top

Yeah. But still... maybe a limit on the amount of good melee demigods?

 

Also polynominal stfu. Show those replays before you claim anything please.

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I've POOPED on UB plenty of times as TB. Just gotta be careful the first 5 lvls is all.

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I "POOPED"on you with Ub too. But some personal anecdotes say nothing, numbers we need! And numbers tell UB is fucking OP.

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The only time you played me, you were Oak and your partner was Erebus. You did pwn us, but to be fair my UB friend was pretty eh. 

But I'm not saying every time I play against UB I destroy him, I'm just saying TB isnt as weak as people say.

Edit: The only DG I consistently have issues with as TB is a good Oak. Shield and Pent cancel out a LOT of dmg.

Edit2: The only change I really want for UB is half the range of spit.

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oh yeah... hehe that you remebered! That was like 6 months ago.

 

 


P.S. but seriously if you really think TB is good, provide a replay or play with me.

Reply #10 Top

Hehe. I havnt played in like 3 months or so. I just recently picked DG back up. No replays from back then :(

Next time I play, I'll post one.

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I think it would be nice to have Assassin-only games. An Assassin team isn't really viable at the moment. (With one possible exception)

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Just play for fun.  If you want to give the weaker demigods a try but don't want to lose games, only play with those demigods when the teams are stacked in your favor.  You can also give the weaker demigods a try when the both teams are mixed with different skilled players, in which case you can feed off the weaker players and avoid the stronger ones.  If the strongest opponent is UB though, make sure you're a good support demigod or your teammates will get plowed.   :)

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Ironically enough making such games would make choosing Rook useless as TB and Reg are 2 DGs that are actually decent against the Rook. The Rook can easily take the top 4 however. Of course playing no UB/erb games are fun

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A list- Oak, UB, Erebus

B List - Rook, Sedna, TB

C List - Regulus, QoT

3 vs 3 for fun game? Each team must have 1 member from each list.

4vs 4 for fun game? 1xA, 2xB, 1xC

 

Reply #16 Top

A list - Rook, Rook, Rook

B list -  Rook, Rook, Rook

C list - QoT

:grin:  

Just kidding!  I would be totally down for more minus Oak, UB, Erebus games.  Perhaps when the new DG is released, a nerfing will finally come to the three mentioned above.  I'll be honest, too.  Whenever I see a team of just UB, LE, Sedna, and/ or Oak, I try to steer clear....just too OP.

Reply #17 Top

Whatever floats your boat, but right now Rook, TB, Oak, Erebus, and Sedna are all viable given the right setup. I've been doing a lot of Oak+TB lately and the burst is amazing and the stacked team speed buffs are ridiculous.

Rook crushes TB/Reg/QoT unless he's outnumbered, btw. You'll need to remove him from the list too if you actually get someone good in control of him.

Reply #18 Top

Yeah, Rook can be good, but he can also be a liability when you play with good teams.

Any interrupt DG in the hands of a good player and good player 2on1s can cause a problem for Rook, that's why I put him on the B list.

Slow speed, low armor and easy interrupts... notice something about the A lists skills? ;)

Reply #19 Top

Quoting LORD-ORION, reply 18
Yeah, Rook can be good, but he can also be a liability when you play with good teams.

Any interrupt DG in the hands of a good player and good player 2on1s can cause a problem for Rook, that's why I put him on the B list.

Slow speed, low armor and easy interrupts... notice something about the A lists skills?
End of LORD-ORION's quote
All countered by the capacity for teammates to teleport to him at any given moment. Rook is a class A DG. He pushes harder than any other DG, he does the most total DPS when his towers are built up, and he has an extremely reliable AoE stun.

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Also for DA i think that it is entirely dependent on your teamates ability to do burst damage. If they suck you suck if they are good you are good.

Reply #21 Top

hahaha TB at B and Regulus at C?

 

Oh yeah, keep queen on C alright with me.

 

I think we can all agree that UB/Erebus/Oak are Tier I(A) demigods and should be avoided, but demigods like rook and sedna are harder to pinpoint. As is DA.

Reply #22 Top

Quoting HorseStrangler, reply 19



Quoting LORD-ORION,
reply 18
Yeah, Rook can be good, but he can also be a liability when you play with good teams.

Any interrupt DG in the hands of a good player and good player 2on1s can cause a problem for Rook, that's why I put him on the B list.

Slow speed, low armor and easy interrupts... notice something about the A lists skills? All countered by the capacity for teammates to teleport to him at any given moment. Rook is a class A DG. He pushes harder than any other DG, he does the most total DPS when his towers are built up, and he has an extremely reliable AoE stun.

End of HorseStrangler's quote

Fair enough... but the real point is, if your team can have a choice of one of LE, UB, Oak or Rook... Rook will probably not be taken.

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Fair enough... but the real point is, if your team can have a choice of one of LE, UB, Oak or Rook... Rook will probably not be taken.
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I choose him constantly over those characters. He's a good anchor and counters UB especially well.

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I choose him constantly over those characters. He's a good anchor and counters UB especially well.
End of quote

uh huh but you know how to play him... most people don't even with 100+ games (not that it matters anymore) so they feed and die and lose and call him terrible because for them he is